Outside the PS1 original port though, Sony's never really pursued the franchise... Namco's just done it on their own. I wonder if MGS is pushing hard for RR6 on 360, more for symbolic significance? Nintendo's pushed hard for it before too (agreeing to handle RR64/DS inhouse and getting the Racing Evolution project started).Elios83 said:
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UbiSoft: PS3 Not Coming to US Until Q3 2006
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jarrod said:
How can you tell that?I mean,who knows what Sony has done to keep RR on PS platforms and to bring it on PSP lately?
Also I think it's the Ridge Racer team itself that has a really good relationship with Sony and prefers to develop on Playstation.
I'm looking forward to RR6 news at the TGS.
CrimsonSkies
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They need some time to make games and not CG movies.
SolidSnakex
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CrimsonSkies said:
Still bitter over that, huh?
SolidSnakex said:
Dunno, that seemed like a reasonable observation to me. It does take longer to make games, right? ;p
Cathcart said:
Because of this:
http://forum.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=50240&highlight=Sony
midnightguy
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lmao did anyone actually think that PlayStation3 was gonna come out in spring 2006 in America? haha. September 2006 or fall 2006 - this has been the plan for many years now
Well, nobody knows for sure (outside Namco and Sony)... but besides the PlayStation original, nobody's ever mentioned Sony going out of their way to secure the franchise (like they have for Tekken or Soul Calibur before). Really, we've heard more about Nintendo pursuing Ridge Racer than Sony.Elios83 said:
The current RR team has mostly experience with PlayStation 2 certainly (Moto GP 1-4) but they're not averse to multiplatform development either (R: Racing Evolution). I think it's more an issue of priorities over preference though, you just can't ignore the PlayStation brand. I admit, I'd be expecting RR6 as a lock for PS3 exlcusivity if not for the hints Charlie/Faf/YJ keep dropping... I think something's up now though.Elios83 said:
Aren't we all.Elios83 said:
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At least we know when Halo 3 will be out 
Doom_Bringer
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CrimsonSkies said:
Namco is an awesome company. What the hell are you talking about?
Doom_Bringer
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jarrod said:Yeah, if anyone can craft a stunning looking launch game, it's Namco. Wherever RR6 turns up, I'm sure it'll be breathtaking.
Definitely agree with you there. Namco pushed the PS2 to the limits with AC5, Tekken 5 and SC3. Their Japanese division is extremely talented, one of favourite developers without a doubt.
Can't wait to see their PS3 stuff.
Perhaps Namco is just plain smart and realizes the true Ridge Racer fanbase is on the Playstation platforms.
With MS launching early and having deep pockets (Unlike Sega) to keep the X360 rolling *and* having some nice extra features (harddrive, Xbox Live, BETTER controller! )......if Sony dominates with the PS3 like they did the PS2 the console wars are truly over forever. Unless the game industry crashes and burns. That's the only thing that'll stop the Playstation dominance if PS3 delivers like the PS2 did in terms of userbase.
With MS launching early and having deep pockets (Unlike Sega) to keep the X360 rolling *and* having some nice extra features (harddrive, Xbox Live, BETTER controller!
)......if Sony dominates with the PS3 like they did the PS2 the console wars are truly over forever. Unless the game industry crashes and burns. That's the only thing that'll stop the Playstation dominance if PS3 delivers like the PS2 did in terms of userbase.CrimsonSkies
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I was commenting on the thread title. That's why I didn't quote anything in the thread as if I was responding to it. The they is Sony. You do know how to use messageboards correct? You seem like a hardcore elitist prick on here so I always thought you did. :lol
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CrimsonSkies said:
I still don't get the CG comment, Sony doesn't even make that many CG films. What is a hardcore elitist prick? Please elaborate on that.
First I was robotic, then a 12 year old and now I am a hardcore elitist prick? Wow crimson
So what are the reasons that make PS3 in mid-2006 so unlikely? I'd esp. like to hear them in light of the fact that many of the people who assume it will be later don't seem to bat an eye at Xbox360 shipping almost simultaneously worldwide before the end of the year.GhaleonEB said:
Cell is basically done. RSX is set to be finalized and in production before the end of the year, still 6 months before proposed PS3 launch. So, at 12 mos before launch, devkits are at least going out that have the PS3 CPU in them and by 6 mos before launch there should be devkits going out with the finalized CPU and GPU in them. On the same timescale, X360 at 6mos prior to proposed launch is still awaiting devkits to ship with EITHER the final CPU or the final GPU, am I right?
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CrimsonSkies said:
Christ, speak for yourself buddy.
Looking into the future:
In Spring of 2006, XBox 360 will have the greatest market penetration in the US, followed by Europeand then Japans dismal showing.
So I guess it does make sense for Sony to launch in Japan first. What was I thinking? I guess I need to go to school for this shit.
Probably be a good idea to hell, even wait until spring 2007 to launch in the US.
Another scenario is that maybe Sony is forcasting a shit launch lineup in Spring 2006 and if that happens, Japan is the best place to launch because Japan usually has shit launches so no one will care and PS3 will be snapped up anyways as the Japanese love Sony.
Whew!
In Spring of 2006, XBox 360 will have the greatest market penetration in the US, followed by Europeand then Japans dismal showing.
So I guess it does make sense for Sony to launch in Japan first. What was I thinking? I guess I need to go to school for this shit.
Probably be a good idea to hell, even wait until spring 2007 to launch in the US.
Another scenario is that maybe Sony is forcasting a shit launch lineup in Spring 2006 and if that happens, Japan is the best place to launch because Japan usually has shit launches so no one will care and PS3 will be snapped up anyways as the Japanese love Sony.
Whew!
If Sony can hurry up and launch in Japan first, then it can easily overtake the 360, which in turn would kind of pull back all that Japanese developer support the 360 is getting back to the PS3 only, putting Sony again in the same position they were this generation.
Because here's a theory that I don't think too many people think about. If a system is already out, like the 360, and you're a developer who wants to make a game and release it this year, you still have a better chance of higher sales on that system's prezent userbase, than on the system that you know will eventually lead the market. Because your game is coming out this year, not when that system achieves that userbase. Of ocurse this doesn't apply to games you would want to build as franchises(which is the reason why companies like Square are STILL going to put games like FF on te PS3 rather than 360), but if you want a quick one time only sales boost, you'd put it on the 360. The thing is, that game might be really good and it might be really popular which in turn would make the 360 gain popularity even in Japan and Sony can't really afford to do that knowing they'll have an uphill battle in the US this time around. That's why they're launching in Japan first as quickly as possible. They know the 360 will be succesfull here but they also know they can kill it in Japan if they launch early enough and jump ahead of it with some huge titles like FF. That's what they're doing.
Think about it...if the PS3 comes out only 3 months after the 360 in Japan and announce titles like FF offline and the next DragonQuest...it's going to crush it pretty easily. If they waited to launch in Japan later......they would have to fight it and kill it. It would still win but not as easily as in one easy strike. It would still give it a fighting chance, small as it may be. This way they don't have to worry about it.
"In Spring of 2006, XBox 360 will have the greatest market penetration in the US, followed by Europeand then Japans dismal showing."
As for Europe don't bet on Sony having the same advantage this time around....I have a feeling it will be a lot closer there as well. Even the first Xbox's line-up was liked by Europe. MS made some big screw-ups with the launch of the Xbox there, that hopefully won't repeat.
Because here's a theory that I don't think too many people think about. If a system is already out, like the 360, and you're a developer who wants to make a game and release it this year, you still have a better chance of higher sales on that system's prezent userbase, than on the system that you know will eventually lead the market. Because your game is coming out this year, not when that system achieves that userbase. Of ocurse this doesn't apply to games you would want to build as franchises(which is the reason why companies like Square are STILL going to put games like FF on te PS3 rather than 360), but if you want a quick one time only sales boost, you'd put it on the 360. The thing is, that game might be really good and it might be really popular which in turn would make the 360 gain popularity even in Japan and Sony can't really afford to do that knowing they'll have an uphill battle in the US this time around. That's why they're launching in Japan first as quickly as possible. They know the 360 will be succesfull here but they also know they can kill it in Japan if they launch early enough and jump ahead of it with some huge titles like FF. That's what they're doing.
Think about it...if the PS3 comes out only 3 months after the 360 in Japan and announce titles like FF offline and the next DragonQuest...it's going to crush it pretty easily. If they waited to launch in Japan later......they would have to fight it and kill it. It would still win but not as easily as in one easy strike. It would still give it a fighting chance, small as it may be. This way they don't have to worry about it.
"In Spring of 2006, XBox 360 will have the greatest market penetration in the US, followed by Europeand then Japans dismal showing."
As for Europe don't bet on Sony having the same advantage this time around....I have a feeling it will be a lot closer there as well. Even the first Xbox's line-up was liked by Europe. MS made some big screw-ups with the launch of the Xbox there, that hopefully won't repeat.
AB 101 said:Another scenario is that maybe Sony is forcasting a shit launch lineup in Spring 2006 and if that happens, Japan is the best place to launch because Japan usually has shit launches so no one will care and PS3 will be snapped up anyways as the Japanese love Sony.
Whew!
That's my bet. Sure worked with the PS2.
SolidSnakex
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jimbo said:
Well going by the numbers posted at the beginning of the year, there was a 24m unit gap between the PS2 and Xbox in Europe. That's bigger than the gap in any other territory. That really is Sony's territory.
Kleegamefan
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Have you seen the numbers for Europe???
That is SonyLand to the MAX....ask anyone who lives there...
SPEAKING OF EUROPE:
According to the UBI chart, Revolution will launch first in Europe Q4 with a 2007 launch in North America and Japan at the *earliest*...
That chart gets a big :lol from me for the Rev. launch dates alone.....