The crawling man Ramsay stabbed was the last one.
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The crawling man Ramsay stabbed was the last one.
Imagine if the unsullied decided not to follow her commands in Astapor.
John Dunbar
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no matter how one sided a battle is, it seems rather unlikely that a handful of survivors don't manage to flee.
Except that any plan involving trapping yourself in a burning wooden hut is not a very solid plan. Even taking into consideration that she's immune to fire, there's still some serious risk involved with falling debris.
I think the implication is that the events of last few episodes have only taken up a busy three days at Castle Black.
Day 1:
Melisandre arrives back at the Wall after Stannis' defeat
Jon is lured outside at night and assassinated
Day 2:
At dawn, Davos finds Jon and seals his body away
Davos and the loyal brothers defend Jon's body for the day while Edd fetches the wildlings
The wildlings save the day
Day 3:
Melisandre resurrects Jon
Jon executes his assassins
Jon packs up and gets ready to leave
Sansa, Brienne, and Pod arrive
They receive Ramsay's letter
Day 1:
Melisandre arrives back at the Wall after Stannis' defeat
Jon is lured outside at night and assassinated
Day 2:
At dawn, Davos finds Jon and seals his body away
Davos and the loyal brothers defend Jon's body for the day while Edd fetches the wildlings
The wildlings save the day
Day 3:
Melisandre resurrects Jon
Jon executes his assassins
Jon packs up and gets ready to leave
Sansa, Brienne, and Pod arrive
They receive Ramsay's letter
Comfort Jones
Banned
That would have been fuckin hilarious.
Either way it's kinda silly to write up the idea of these slave owners having no security force in place. Like how goddamn stupid are the Unsullied?
Then again they also lose out to random dudes with short swords because they cant form a basic wall formation so I guess the answer is pretty stupid.
Probably, though this also implies that it took Sansa three days to go from Winterfell to Castle Black. That girl is fast like the wind.
Not necessarily. Mel left first and likely arrived a while after Stannis' defeat. It makes sense then that Sansa would arrive a few days later.
-Pyromaniac-
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she was mentored by the master teleporter himself
John Dunbar
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just for fun someone should make map gif that shows the movement of characters starting from the first episode.
bitbydeath
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Theon also sailed to Pyke in this time and Arya went from blind begger to Ninja Assassin in two days.
Why do we think this is only three days again?
Didn't a bunch of soldiers desert him after Shireen was burned?
Oh yeah, here it is: https://youtu.be/ED66yqjstU4?t=1m6s Apparently nearly half deserted, and all the sellswords. Where'd they all go? I know it's the kind of nitpick that makes this thread unbearable sometimes haha, but it's hard to believe literally nobody except Melisandre made it back to the Wall. Given that Melisandre would most certainly be executed (Or just killed by Davos) for what she did, it feels like convenient plot armor.
higgsboson1997
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Of course, but what other course of action is there? There are only so many options you have when you are 3 people against 100,000.
PHOENIXZERO
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Is there a requirement that Dany has to have at least one "bad ass" moment a season? Only one I can't remember one from is season four.
And why would you desert to the wall? A place known for hanging its own deserters. Where it's cold as fuck and food is scarce?
You wouldn't. You'd desert all the way back home, or all the way to the hot naked people in sunny Dorne, that's where you'd desert to.
John Dunbar
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considering how fast news spread in westeros, when half an army deserted stannis after he burned his own daughter there really is no good reason why people wouldn't know about it.
How are they supposed to desert to the other side of the continent? I dont think Westeros has that many teleporters yet. Castle Black is, I guess the closest castle. And there are villages nearby. Besides, why did Melisandre go there herself? She had no reason to especially since Davos is there.
Napalm_Frank
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Wouldn't they just return to Stormlands ect. and surrender. I'd imagine Tommen/Kevan would happily accept. It's not like Stannis or Boltons would chase them to the south.
I always assumed they went to the Boltons. That was the only way I could explain why they had such a large army and so much cavalry.
They went wherever whores go along with Ramsay's dogs.
hipsterpants
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Did Stannis have Northern houses in the show? I dont think any of his or Queensmen would go to the Boltons. Either way, its exactly the kind of news Stannis' enemies would want to spread. So its odd it hasn't. Same with Littlefinger in Winterfell.
So that's what the Bad Pussy Army is made up of!
She's a decent character in the books. A child thrust into this cruel game, learning as she goes. In the TV show she's basically a prop.
ToyMachine228
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Do you mean morally decent or content-wise? Casual show viewers largely see her as one of if not the best character, ultimate badass and looming savior of the world. While I think she is certainly a prominent protagonist who will play a large role in the end-game, I think the show has inflated her beyond what is necessary. In a world full of gray characters they've constantly portrayed Dany as a white knight. Very few show watchers see the gray part of her character.
Gamer @ Heart
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Jaime. He is completely stagnant and would be one more step in cersi going full meltdown to set up her fall the next season
Yes she is a Mary Sue in the show. Stripped of most of her complexity.
Woody Invincible
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Maybe Davos murdering Melisandre if he finds out what really happened? Cercei losing her trial by combat? Margaery and/or Loras getting murdered during the rescue attempt?
Napalm_Frank
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I feel like there isn't one this season. Kevan and Pycelle may be goners but they ain't really shocking material even for non book readers. Ramsay gonna bite it and everyone will expect it. Rickon death wouldn't be shocking at this point either. Same for Jorah, he's eventual goner anyway.
I just feel like this is Season 2 tier when it comes to deaths, no shockers. Renly was probably the biggest player to die but I feel like viewers didn't have a huge connection to him.
I guess the most likely death that truly has potential to cause shock is Cersei in the trial. Deus Ex Hound comes in and manages to slay the mountain. But I don't think this will happen either.
Next season however I do expect some huge death when we are closing to the endgame. Someone like Tyrion or Cersei.
80s Bad Guy
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It's hard for me to see them killing off any major characters now. That said, everyone in King's Landing is fair game. Tommen maybe, if he counts. And thinking a bit harder maybe Rikon. Normally I would say they've had the Starks suffer enough, but the show is going so far out of its way to make Ramsay a cartoon villain I wouldn't put anything past them.
ChaosZeroX
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I don't think its Jaime personally. Hes going to the Riverlands. I mean I guess maybe, but it would be a shame to see him die before Cersei.
Ingeniero
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Acidote
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I wonder how are they doing Kevan though considering the scene with Qyburn and the little birds. If it happens I guess it will be at Cersei's will through Qyburn.
The only disposable one that would be 'shocking' is Jaime. The other characters either cant die or would shock no one if they did.
Definitely: Ramsay, Kevan, Pycelle
Maybe: Jorah, Theon, Loras, Marg, Mel
Hopefully: Sandsnakes, Walder Frey
But I didn't see the Doran death coming at all so who knows what they'll do.
80s Bad Guy
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So if they rescue Rikon will they be JONSAKON? One more and a Voltron they will make.
bengraven
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If you think this is going to be a happy ending you haven't been paying attention.
I still think that if Rikki survives Rambler then Davos will take him in. I'm pretty sure that's Davos point in these books.
Confidence Man
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Cersei somehow has Marg killed and makes it look like the Sparrow/FM did it, inciting Tommen and the Tyrells to wipe out the FM.
Podrick will probably die as well.
Moff
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knowing D&D, ser robert strong will rape olenna and split her in two with his greatsword
Wait, dammit I had never even thought of Davos mentoring Rickon and now that I have and how great that sounds, it's going to hurt even more when it doesn't happen.
Thanks for that.
HAHA
Now that you mention it you are absolutely right, it's the most shocking death so far for all the wrong reasons.
bengraven
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In the books he's going to find Rickon and Osha. He had a big island full of young boys back home for when Stannis is dead and he has lost his focus.
In the show it's equally important that he and Rickon be in the same place. He lost all of his children (but one maybe?) at the Blackwater. He has no more focus.
Jon will get WF and Rickon will be taken by Davos back home or Davos will serve the same role as Ser Rodrik.
That's probably not going to happen, just like Sam becoming his maester. Rickon isn't going to survive this
WaffleTaco
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I wonder if they address this or just say fuck it and that everything happens at the same time. Actually if we will really think about it, the only thing that could have taken a lot of time would be Theon's journey.
Honestly I really wish they would just say something about the other characters that would give a basis in time.
On the subject of deaths, let me see how my pre-season death list is turning out:
I've got 5 so far, and feel good about at least 4 of the others.
This is reminding me, we haven't seen Bronn at all :/
I've got 5 so far, and feel good about at least 4 of the others.
This is reminding me, we haven't seen Bronn at all :/
He's a great character though. Hope they find a way to make him useful. Always loved his personality/fight scenes.
blazenumb1
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Sorry if this is a dumb question or I missed it but can someone explain why there are only four people hanged for killing Jon when six stabbed him?
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