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Until Dawn Also Requires PSN Account to Play on Steam - Seems to be the new norm of SEI games
MiguelItUp
Member
Yeah, it's definitely them just wanting to present the PSN interface on their games for consistency's sake. Really sucks for those in certain countries. 
MarkMe2525
Banned
Seems like we should just have a dedicated "Game x requires log in" thread and be done with it.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Lol
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bitbydeath
Member
It’s a minor inconvenience for those other countries too, just pick a supported region, that’s how they already play on PS5’s there.
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STARSBarry
Gold Member
Look at all the unhinged console warriors outing themselves by celebrating this because there angry PC players have agency and got Sony to back off for Helldivers.
Yeah utter nonsense for singleplayer titles, means pirated versions will become the to go for mobile consoles like steam deck etc, as you won't require Internet.
At least wirh Ghost you could play everything but legends, these, nope.
Yeah utter nonsense for singleplayer titles, means pirated versions will become the to go for mobile consoles like steam deck etc, as you won't require Internet.
At least wirh Ghost you could play everything but legends, these, nope.
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NeverYouMind
Member
Cult classic as a result of doing something unique well before anybody else (I think).
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Why it's such a problem? You can make account at whatever region you want, you just need to google zipcode and some street address.Yeah, it's definitely them just wanting to present the PSN interface on their games for consistency's sake. Really sucks for those in certain countries.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
We're just laughing at you.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I can’t remember when starting Ghosts of Tsushima for PC if I entered the PSN within the game or with Steam.
I do wonder if there is any security issues if each game has a copy of my PSN or if its just stored in one Steam file somewhere.
More games could be more opportunity for something to leak out.
I do wonder if there is any security issues if each game has a copy of my PSN or if its just stored in one Steam file somewhere.
More games could be more opportunity for something to leak out.
Sintoid
Member
Isnt Until Dawn a 2015 game?
Walking Dead is far superior and from 2012...
I understand your statement but it's anyway hard to explain
graywolf323
Member
how does this require internet anymore than any other major publisher‘s games on Steam?
there’s been nothing to say it’s always-online like you’re insinuating
NeverYouMind
Member
The interactive CGI cinematic experience pioneered by David Cage was never mixed with horror prior as far as I am aware. Every other attempt has not been as fruitful either.
P.S. It did not resonate with me as I did not find the cast relatable.
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cormack12
Gold Member
STARSBarry
Gold Member
how does this require internet anymore than any other major publisher‘s games on Steam?
there’s been nothing to say it’s always-online like you’re insinuating
So two issues, one it means you need to be on a WiFi network when you start the game, two as of Ghost and Helldivers, sonys sign in achitecture is not built into the game. It's in it's own folder on windows that the game then runs when prompted and requires windows to run. Means you need to use a Linux translation layer, this will break over and over like Ubisoft games when they update, and requires steam community to find a fix.
So yes this already causes issues, it's just that PC are better at fixing issues ourselves, the problem is the issue is created completely arbitrarily by a corporation for no other reason than wanting more money than you buying the game.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
This shows how entitled PC gamers can be.
They want Sony to bring all their games to PC, but on their conditions.
balls of snow
Member
We have a product for you if you dont have psn in your region. Its called the ps5. Don Mattrick move, gotta respect.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Fine, il buy em on PlayStation, a platform they manufacture and control (although notice how legislation is starting to curve that like how they did with windows, because it causes issues). I remember how entitled I was when Microsoft tried to make PC players pay for online with Microsoft Gold back in Halo 2 / Shadowrun days.
And I'm happy to keep being that entitled, I think its probably just closer to having actual standards though. Besides PC does this all the time, it's why piracy is on the increase, you fuck around and PC players go elsewhere without the strings.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Until Dawn was unexpectedly good because it accurately invoked the various tropes and conventions of the genre without descending into obvious pastiche. The difference between UD and The Quarry in this respect is night and day. Until Dawn felt like a real Slasher/Giallo, whereas The Quarry came across as a mash-up copy of the same.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Exactly this.
NeverYouMind
Member
It is decent at playing up slasher genre tropes but avant-garde Italian suspense thriller it is not.
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Lucifers Beard
Member
I'm pretty sure if they're that interested then they'll just set sail for it. Ghost of Tsushima was found out there the day of release.
PSbigfan
Member
SONY.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
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dragonyeuw
Member
I see this as a prelude to their own PC storefront. Which, I'm not against if that allows cross saves, cross-buys/discounts( I have Until Dawn on PSN. Discount for PC version? Wishful thinking?). Cue the incoming eggs and tomatoes from other PC gamers for dare suggesting a non- Steam launcher.
GametimeUK
Member
Luckily I have a PSN account.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
No problem for me. After trying Rockstar launcher i’ve hit rock bottom, so things can only improve from here.
dragonyeuw
Member
Haha seconded on the Rockstar app. Ugghhh...
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Actually, I am of the opinion that some CEO in Sony is having his salary metric measured in PSN growth. Because to deliberately NOT sell games in certain countries and thus lose money intentionally, is not something companies usually do. The only time it happens is when some leader find personal financial benefit in such a thing.Yeah, it's definitely them just wanting to present the PSN interface on their games for consistency's sake. Really sucks for those in certain countries.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Pretty much yes. Most likely the pressure from Arrowhead from Sony’s poor messaging. I expect them to mandate it for Helldivers 2 but when things settle down and the PSN linking becomes normal to all their titles.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Consistency?! lol no they want to get you into the psn ecosystem. Which would be okay with me since I'm already a subscriber IF they didn't make you purchase the games twice.Yeah, it's definitely them just wanting to present the PSN interface on their games for consistency's sake. Really sucks for those in certain countries.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Yeah, I said in the other thread that PSN integration is obviously an integral part of their PC strategy. They royally fucked up with Helldivers and made being anti-PSN a thing. So now they are telegraphing their intentions to implement it in every game so they get all the bad press put of the way in one go.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Gialli are not all avant-garde, the defining trait versus slashers is the element of mystery around the killer's identity. Italian cinema of the late 60's early 70's was big on style over substance, but even so there are plenty of examples that take a dryer more police procedural approach.
It is decent at playing up slasher genre tropes but avant-garde Italian suspense thriller it is not.
Larry Fessenden knows the genre, and I felt it was his involvement with UD that was the difference maker.
Physiognomonics
Member
Didn't they switch to MAUs reporting as the main metric recently?
MiguelItUp
Member
Of course it's something deeper than that, I'm just saying it's why the whole Helldivers 2 thing happened, they wanted to implement it there, and they want all of their games on PC to have it. Yeah, it's messy.Consistency?! lol no they want to get you into the psn ecosystem. Which would be okay with me since I'm already a subscriber IF they didn't make you purchase the games twice.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
THIS! I see no issue with either company doing this.
FeralEcho
Member
Heavy Rain did the whole qte,butterfly effect consequences things in 2010.Waaaaay before Until Dawn was even a thing so no that's inacurate.