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Video of 500lb bomb striking Iraqi building

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calder

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Operating on a few assumptions, I don't see a major problem with that behaviour, distasteful as it is. Hate to defend an idiot like that but if we were all getting shot at (and again without knowing the specifics I'm willing to make the assumption that there was fighting going on) and then from afar someone else blew the hell out of guys trying to kill *me* I'm honest enough to know I'd cheer like a fucktard too. And probably cream my dusty fatigues in shameless relief. It's just human nature.
 

tetsuoxb

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Looks like Fallujah during the assault.

I have absolutely no problem with that video. Calling in close air support is a valid tactic, and as they say, war is hell.
 

El Papa

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Watch the video of the downing of the civilian helicopter and execution of the lone, injured survivor, then tell me the soldiers' reaction was disgusting.
 

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Kuroyume

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I love OGRISH. I felt guilty at first but now I visit it daily. I skip over the animal related stuff that occasionally pops up. I can't take that...
 

tetsuoxb

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Drozmight said:
Its hell alright, but they sure seem to be having a good time.

Soldiers with moral problems against killing all have the same name: dead.

You have to dehumanize your enemy to kill him, and cheering at something you view as not human makes perfect sense for me.

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it takes to kill someone in a combat zone.
 

SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
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"Impressive."

Yah the camera mens' attitude wasn't very kosher, but then again they probably get shot at every other day so I guess it's somewhat understandable...
 

Drozmight

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tetsuoxb said:
Soldiers with moral problems against killing all have the same name: dead.

You have to dehumanize your enemy to kill him, and cheering at something you view as not human makes perfect sense for me.

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it takes to kill someone in a combat zone.

Well I understand that, but I don't see how one could seemingly enjoy it.
 
That site is sick.

I stumbled across the 11 year old boy who had a mishap with a pool cue. Fell off a chair and took a cue to the scrotum.

Ooooooooooh. Ouch, too.
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Kuroyume said:
I love OGRISH. I felt guilty at first but now I visit it daily. I skip over the animal related stuff that occasionally pops up. I can't take that...

Yeah, what's really bad is anything related to parasitic infections like those human botflies or maggots or whatever.
 

ChrisReid

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Drozmight said:
Well I understand that, but I don't see how one could seemingly enjoy it.

It's not like it's Saturday afternoon and some guys were looking for something to do for fun. If my job was to take that city block, and there were some jerks firing machine guns at me, I'd be pretty happy when a 500 pound bomb dropped on them too.
 

goodcow

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ChrisReid said:
It's not like it's Saturday afternoon and some guys were looking for something to do for fun. If my job was to take that city block, and there were some jerks firing machine guns at me, I'd be pretty happy when a 500 pound bomb dropped on them too.

It's not your city block to take, you're an invader fighting an internationally illegal war.
 

ChrisReid

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That's all well and good for you to tell the president, but that's just your opinion, and the soldiers in the video have already committed to do what he tells them to do.

Edit: For that matter, it's just as easily not the "defenders'" block either. The real residents have better stuff to do. The soldiers are fighting just as many fighters from outside Iraq as within.
 
WTF's up with the American's shooting defenseless dogs?

A video on that ogrish site, they're shooting a stray dog for fun, those people are vile cretins.
 

goodcow

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ChrisReid said:
That's all well and good for you to tell the president, but that's just your opinion, and the soldiers in the video have already committed to do what he tells them to do.

Why can't they just shoot themselves in the foot and be declared medically unfit for duty?
 

ChrisReid

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goodcow said:
Why can't they just shoot themselves in the foot and be declared medically unfit for duty?

Because they're not cynical bastards like you. They have a job to do, and they're doing it.
 

goodcow

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ChrisReid said:
Because they're not cynical bastards like you. They have a job to do, and they're doing it.

So you would go to another country and illegally kill other people just because it's your job?
 

Drozmight

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ChrisReid said:
It's not like it's Saturday afternoon and some guys were looking for something to do for fun. If my job was to take that city block, and there were some jerks firing machine guns at me, I'd be pretty happy when a 500 pound bomb dropped on them too.

I'd probably be relieved, not happy. These guys sound psychotic...
 

tetsuoxb

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Drozmight said:
I'd probably be relieved, not happy. These guys sound psychotic...

No.

Do you ever let up a victory yell when you make something go boom in Halo? Soldiers are trained to be desensitized to an extent that they have very little differentiation between the emotion of victory in a game and the emotion of victory in war.

What you continue to not get is that to those soldiers, it isnt about killing the other people, it is about winning. Winning means killing. The other side is already dehumanized, so killing is good. Those soldiers dont view insurgents with people with families, etc. They view them as terrorists to be eliminated. Cheering at their elimination is just cheering for victory.

Once again: A soldier with the kind of ideas you have about this video is called by only one name: dead.
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
It's kind of embarrassing to read someone whose closest experience to actual combat is in videogames Telling It Like It Is.

Maybe the basis of your authority comes from a deeper source than your own intuition. If so, you're doing a poor job of communicating it in your posts.
 

Drozmight

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I don't play videogames anymore really.

I know what you're saying and I know that they're trained to be mindless drones... I realized that after I learned the marines were encourgaged to watch Starship Troopers because it supported their mentality.

Regardless, its still terrible... and I don't buy that they'll all die if they don't scream out in jubilee after making a kill. I've never seen someone shoot a deer and start yelling at the top of their lungs about how much they rock.
 

Ghost

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If people were shooting at me then i dropped a bomb on them id be groving too, what do you expect them to say?

"Oh my god, we better go see if those guys who want us dead are ok!"
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
Fight for Freeform said:
They're gonna rot in Hell anyways...don't lose sleep over it.
well he did say "i'll see you in hell." so i guess he's already accepted that he's a bad person who deserves to be there... UNLESS

he means "see you in hell FROM heaven", in which case he's delusional
 
calder said:
Operating on a few assumptions, I don't see a major problem with that behaviour, distasteful as it is. Hate to defend an idiot like that but if we were all getting shot at (and again without knowing the specifics I'm willing to make the assumption that there was fighting going on) and then from afar someone else blew the hell out of guys trying to kill *me* I'm honest enough to know I'd cheer like a fucktard too. And probably cream my dusty fatigues in shameless relief. It's just human nature.

I AGREE!!!
 

Che

Banned
I'm disgusted... by them and some of you who defend nothing more than some well-paid "humans" who fight an invading illegal war which started for profit. First of all yes they're soldiers "doing their job" (aka killing) but that doesn't mean they have to actually enjoy it that much. I just can't stand some americans who consider being a soldier as something noble. Killing is not freaking noble no matter how you interpret it. If I had a daughter I would prefer her to be a hooker than a soldier. Bye.
 
Che said:
I'm disgusted... by them and some of you who defend nothing more than some well-paid "humans" who fight an invading illegal war which started for profit. First of all yes they're soldiers "doing their job" (aka killing) but that doesn't mean they have to actually enjoy it that much. I just can't stand some americans who consider being a soldier as something noble. Killing is not freaking noble no matter how you interpret it. If I had a daughter I would prefer her to be a hooker than a soldier. Bye.


I'm sure the soldiers would too. Always interesting hearing the perspective of those in the rear.
 

Forsete

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That is a pansy firecracker compared to the tanker bomb the insurgents used in one of the other videos on the same site.

War sucks. :/
 
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