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Virtua Fighter 5 for PS3 confirmed
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boutrosinit said:
sorry kid, even if it was coming out on 360 it would nto be coming out this year.
There are rumors going around that sega is actually going to release the vf.net system here in american arcades. They may actually be trying to release VF in majoe arcades this time. So perhaps you guys will be able to play this game sooner than you thought.
Certainly likely, but that's not a sure thing. The only thing you can say with assurance about multiplatform sales is that you will split your userbase. But whether that actually guarantees higher sales than a single platform release is not a guarantee. And it most certainly isn't a guarantee that the multiplatform sales will truly "destroy" exclusives, as the sales of GTA games while exclusive on PS2 demonstrate by representing the majority of total sales once the game goes multiplatform.jarrod said:
KyotoMecca
Member
I hear that this news is bullshit.
Wait for the next EGM to learn more.
VF5 isn't out in Japan arcades till Summer.
Wait for the next EGM to learn more.
VF5 isn't out in Japan arcades till Summer.
jarrod said:
Going multi-platform neither help nor hurt sales cause in the end its all about the consumers.
look at this, but a game like VF is always going to sell less no matter whether its multi-platform or not. Want know why? VF isn't mainstream as people make it out to be.
The VF name is well-known, but the game itself have never had a strong fallowing in North America. In fact if you was to ever attend a EVO get-together, the game has little to no presence there.
btw, multiplatform game can very much hurt a game because they do nothing but forcer the developer to make compromises that hold the game back.
btw to also shoot down your multi-plaform is the way to go, Soul Calibur 2 on the PS2 alone outsold SC on the dreamcast. As for the massive numbers SC2 racked up, its because people was multiple copies of one game.
Pedigree Chum
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Flo_Evans said:
Yeah man, all my casual gamer friends, and even my hardcore gamer friends are into SC. No one like VF
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
Ah, the only 3D fighter worth playing imo 
Not really surprise news though is it? I can't wait and I hope it's released sometime this year.
Not really surprise news though is it? I can't wait and I hope it's released sometime this year.â Narayan
Member
Hopefully it'll be multi-platform.
choplifter said:
The closest conversion of a VF game by far is VF4 Evolution. Saturn VF2 really wasn't that close...zero 3D background elements, character models had over half the polys missing, and there was zero light sourcing. But it looked so much better then almost anything out for a home console at the time thanks to the 720x480 resolution and 60fps that it really didn't matter.
DCharlie said:
Oh yeah...forgot about that one. That might be the closest one, even with the er, issues I heard about.
Speevy said:Well I don't.
You hear that Europe? You're dead to me.
:lol
llTll said:
Of course it's not official. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a juicy story? Particularly when there are fractious fanboy flamewars being fought.
VF5 will hit both PS3 and X360, barring one of the first parties spending ridiculous coin to buying it for the short or long term. I've been saying this for almost two years, and I'll continue to say it until I see a REAL confirmation that states otherwise. And quite frankly, even this non-story gives my prediction some credence.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the home versions were made online. It'll probably take some labourous work to make it operate smoothly though.
Marconelly said:What about VF1 included in VF4:Evo?I guess that's not aracde exact either, because the graphics and animation are much better than in the arcade.
Damnit...forgot about that version as well.
sp0rsk said:
That's a pretty cool rumour...hope that happens. There's still some decent arcade spots in the ole' TO.
Nightmarecast25
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Why do they keep using that pic of Akira knowing damn well that isn't what the game looks like in any way?
Also, I think it will be exclusive to PS3.
Also, I think it will be exclusive to PS3.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Damn I can't wait till this comes to consoles and how great it will look (if they put the effort in) against the arcade version!
choplifter
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VF5 conversion to PS3 makes perfect sense
VF4, VF4 Evo and VF2 came to PS2, and not other current consoles. Xbox and X360 userbase almost do not exist in Japan. PS3 will automatically.
VF5 arcade uses Nvidia GPU, PS3 uses Nvidia GPU. conversion would be easier than to X360's ATI GPU. although that alone should not exclude VF5 from X360 but everything else probably does.
PS3 is a lock for VF5. X360 has no base in Japan and Revolution wont be powerful enough.
VF4, VF4 Evo and VF2 came to PS2, and not other current consoles. Xbox and X360 userbase almost do not exist in Japan. PS3 will automatically.
VF5 arcade uses Nvidia GPU, PS3 uses Nvidia GPU. conversion would be easier than to X360's ATI GPU. although that alone should not exclude VF5 from X360 but everything else probably does.
PS3 is a lock for VF5. X360 has no base in Japan and Revolution wont be powerful enough.
Oh no one's denying that VF5 won't hit PS3. But as an exclusive? Eh...I'm not buying it yet. VF5 will be cake to run on the 360 as well, and MS will undoubtedly be giving Sega money just so the game hits the system.
On the other hand, I don't see where Sony benefits from getting VF5 all to itself. They know they're gonna get it anyway, so why bid against themselves?
I've had this argument before though...and some people just don't understand the wisdom of it for whatever reason.
On the other hand, I don't see where Sony benefits from getting VF5 all to itself. They know they're gonna get it anyway, so why bid against themselves?
I've had this argument before though...and some people just don't understand the wisdom of it for whatever reason.
choplifter
Banned
sure VF5 could be run on X360, but it won't because X360 does not exist in Japan and Sega is too smart to....oh my, wait, that means it WILL be on X360 :lol :lol
Ninja Scooter
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how well does VF do over here? I know its huge in Japan, but it (and fighting games in general) seem to be on a downslide in the states. VF never struck me as a huge mainstream series in the States to begin with. Obviously, being that its such a massive hit in japan makes it obvious why it would go to PS3. Im not so sure MS would bother ponying up dough for a game that isn't THAT big in their major territory (again, not sure, just assuming).
SolidSnakex
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Shinobi said:
They apparently paid for Soul Calibur, which means nothing really anywhere. VF does mean something, atleast in Japan. So if they're willing to put money up for SC, there's no way they wouldn't be willing to do the same for VF.
SolidSnakex said:
Difference is Namco's been buddy buddy with Sony for a decade now, so that wasn't much of a hard sell. Sega seems to have a pretty good relationship with everyone. So again, if MS is gonna offer to pay Sega just to get VF5 (and not even for themselves mind you), why is Sega gonna turn that down? Unless Sony's gonna vastly outbid MS for a game they're going to get anyway. Doesn't make much sense to me.
SolidSnakex
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I'm sure MS tried to bid to make sure VF4 didn't remain a PS2 exclusive too, and look what happened there. If Sony could get that exclusive (and Evo), why can't they get VF5 exclusive?
Shinobi said:
Why doesn't it make sense? If it's exclusive, maybe a group of people will buy PS3s instead of buying X360s since they need to have their VF fix next-gen. If Sony feels its worth getting these extra sales and taking them from MS they will spend the money to outbid them.
choplifter
Banned
Shinobi said:
yeah I was not speaking of the SATURN version of VF2. of course the PS2 VF4, VF4 Evo are closer to arcade than Saturn VF2.
I was speaking of the recent Sega Ages PS2 version of VF2 which emulated the Model 2 version decently, although is marred by awful textures. the amount of polygons is probably 1:1 though.
as for VF5 on Xbox 360, sure its possible, but unlikely.
SolidSnakex said:
Pretty simple...Sega offered MS about 7 or 8 exclusives off the hop (might've been as high as 11, can't remember for sure), while giving Sony maybe 3 or 4 (plus 3 or 4 for Gameube). But with VF4 being one of them (most likely at Sony's request), I'm sure they felt it all balanced out.
Bebpo said:
But didn't people just say that fighters are no longer the system sellers they used to be? And moreover, 360's a dead duck in Japan anyway...that's the sentiment right. Even if 360 got VF5 all to itself, it wouldn't make a goddamn difference over there. So what's Sony's benefit, outside of rubbing the proverbial fruit into Microsoft's mug?
There's no real gain for Sony to buy a game they're going to get regardless. Sony isn't exactly flush with cash these days...I reckon they're gonna save their ducets for the really big fish. I don't think VF qualifies as one of those.
Then again I believe the next GTA will hit both platforms as well, so take that as you will. All I'm saying is, don't rule anything out...the last five years should've taught us that.
I should also add that when Sega and Sammy merged a couple years ago, they said they were going to be making more multiplatform games in the future, particularly for the new consoles. Hell, we've got OutRun 2K6 being developed for FOUR platforms, which I think is unprecedented for a Sega-commissioned title (the multiplatform versions of Crazy Taxi was handled by Acclaim). The Sonic game, which some people assumed was a 360 exclusive, is being made for both PS3 and 360, while the Rev gets it's own version. So based on the statements and the early evidence, a multiplatform VF5 shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
SolidSnakex
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Shinobi said:
Just as an exclusive one should. As you said, the Rev is getting an exclusive version of Sonic while the PS3 and Xbox 360 are getting getting the same version. So they're still handing out exclusives.
well it was 80 millions PS2 vs 17 millions Xbox. This time it seems like it will be around 3 millions for PS3 against 9 millions X360. The basis for an exclusivity offer is to reduce royalties to make up for the lose on others platform and pay a part of the advertising, it's hard to do when you dont have an userbase lead.
SolidSnakex said:
VF NEVER was intended for the Xbox from the first. VF4 was always intended for the PS2. In fact, the PS2 version of VF4 was in production along-side the arcade version considering that AM2 was working with PS2 hardware possibily long before sega went third-party.
Suzuki talks about it why VF4 ended up on the PS2 here:
http://www.dreamstation.cc/news/video_games/id462
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Amir0x said:
Keep that dream alive brother!
[translation. No chance]
TheJollyCorner
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boutrosinit said:
You really don't think PS3 will be released in 2006?
wow...
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
soundwave05 said:
Thinking about it, it did sell surprisingly well, so I guess it would make sense, particularly as VF WON'T be going online. I think it did a mil worldwide. But then I can't remember if that was VF4 or VF:Evo on budget label.
However on the other side of things, remember that games this gen cost considerably more, so to hedge your bets on a game for one system is considerably more risky and thus, a bit dumb unless that exclusive deal practically offsets the dev or at least marketing costs.
Also, VF5 is on the Lindburgh board. What architecture is that based on again? If I remember correctly, isn't that based around 360 architecture? Doree; can your infinite Sega wisdom confirm this?
I don't know who EGM's source is, but considering the last two points, I don't think this would be true. That and I don't actually WANT to believe this.
Doom_Bringer
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boutrosinit said:
LMAO :lol
Nice one buddy!
The Lindbergh I think is an Intel CPU and a Nividia GPU, so it's closer to the PS3. But spec wise it's below both PS3 and the 360. And I think Sega stated they've designed the hardware and their tools to make conversions from Lindbergh to both PS3 and 360 a breeze.
It's an exclusive based on the hardware. Rev's getting a lot of exclusive content based on the controller...it's hardly the same thing.
SolidSnakex said:
It's an exclusive based on the hardware. Rev's getting a lot of exclusive content based on the controller...it's hardly the same thing.
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
TheJollyCorner said:
MAYBE Japan.
This isn't some fanboy speculative crap either. Part of my job involves talking to publishers, on and off the record and specifically Jap publishers I've talked to with European bases (three in particular) have said the same thing in a nutshell:
"We don't know shit about any of OUR OWN games on PS3, we don't know shit from Sony about when the fucking thing's coming out and based on this and the fact we often know about what's coming a year ahead (usually), we would wager NOT seeing it this year."
Then of course, they cover their asses with "but you never know what E3 may bring".
These are Senior production folk too who I'm close to on a personal, friendship outside work level. Not PR slaves.
My guess would be that Sony would be dumb to miss another Xmas, but if they do release this year, it'll be a rushed end of year Japan only job, with two or three games at the most. And the fuckers will sell on Ebay for THOUSANDS.
TheJollyCorner
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boutrosinit said:
so Japan only for PS3 in '06?
Would you be willing to bet a permi-ban on it?
SolidSnakex
Member
Shinobi said:
The point is that Sega isn't against exclusives. Look at Ryu ga Gotoku if you want a new example that's happened since Sega Sammy. It's a big budget game and exclusive to the PS2.
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Depends. What do I get for being right? ;-)
boutrosinit
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SolidSnakex said:
It's also supposed to utterly fucking rule. I'm gutted it's not out here for a while.
And remember it is current gen, and thus CHEAPER than Next Gen.
Ninja Scooter
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woah, woah, woah...no permaban bets. I don't want to have to say goodbye to either of you. I love you so much, boutrisnits.
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Shinobi said:
Well at least that's good news. So now games that hit the arcade have the possibility of being on either or BOTH machines.
A shame we still don't know jack about whether it can port well to Revolution, as it would make a great platform for a Ghost Squad (best gun game in ages) or even Virtua Cop 3 conversion (neither on Lindburgh I believe, but hey).
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Ninja Scooter said:
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boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Bob White said:
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