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[Panajev2001a]

I thought about sharing the love of the great Disney author and artist Don Rosa to GAF a bit more and test, if people want to partecipate, well a bit of their knowledge . I am no expert, but hey these things can be fun (sometimes ).

Here we go:

(Notice: this comes from MY copy of "Zio Paperone" an italian magazine sold IN Italy)

Where did our heroes arrive at ? Why is this location so "interesting" and "familiar" for them ?

Have go at it guys and gals .

 

[Panajev2001a]

Ok, the scan should have been of a higher quality... I'll give you a hint (if anyone needs it): "Kubla Kahn" by Samuel Taylor Coleridge.

 

[SantaC]

it isn't that place where the people never heard of money but when they spotted a cap the people went crazy and scrooge mc duck decided to let it rain caps over them or something.

oh how I read donald duck when I was a kid

 

[Panajev2001a]

it isn't that place where the people never heard of money but when they spotted a cap the people went crazy and scrooge mc duck decided to let it rain caps over them or something.

oh how I read donald duck when I was a kid

You have it on the tip of your tongue... you need the name though or the "names" .

 

[8bit]

Spoiler

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree :
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.

So twice five miles of fertile ground
With walls and towers were girdled round :
And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree ;
And here were forests ancient as the hills,
Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

But oh ! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover !
A savage place ! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon-lover !
And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
A mighty fountain momently was forced :
Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail :
And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
It flung up momently the sacred river.
Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean :
And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
Ancestral voices prophesying war !

The shadow of the dome of pleasure
Floated midway on the waves ;
Where was heard the mingled measure
From the fountain and the caves.

It was a miracle of rare device,
A sunny pleasure-dome with caves of ice !
A damsel with a dulcimer
In a vision once I saw :
It was an Abyssinian maid,
And on her dulcimer she played,
Singing of Mount Abora.
Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me,

That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome ! those caves of ice !
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware ! Beware !
His flashing eyes, his floating hair !
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Hey 8bit, this is not fair... you could have it at least [ spoiler ] tagged it . Now, no-one else will play .

I think I should have not put the Poem reference.

 

[SantaC]

great quiz though panajev. Such nostalgia. Keep doing this

btw Scrooge mc duck was called Joakim Von Anka in Swedish. And Donald Duck was called Kalle Anka.

 

[Panajev2001a]

great quiz though panajev. Such nostalgia. Keep doing this

btw Scrooge mc duck was called Joakim Von Anka in Swedish. And Donald Duck was called Kalle Anka.

Thanks for the swedish info , it is great to see how the legend of Scrooge McDuck was brought in so many different countries .

Well, to tell you the truth the quiz ain't over until the fat lady sings as they say.

Does anyone remember the other name for that town ?

Hint: "Lost Horizon"... movie by Frank Capra based on the book by J. Hilton.

A town is mentioned there and well, the "other name" for

Spoiler

Xanadu

(at least in the world Carl Barks and Don Rosa have created and painted for us ), is basically THAT name with a minor modification (that is Barks took an inspiration from that mystical city to create the "new" one.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Thanks 8bit, now I have to fix my post .

 

[El_Victor]

I love Don Rosa, together with Carl Barks the two greatest writers when it comes to portrait Uncle Scrooge/Donald Duck.
Just read the one where Scrooge celebrates his first 50 years in Duckberg, great stuff with most of the villains in it.
<3
Oh and about the answer, in swedish it's

Spoiler

Tralla La

.

 

[borghe]

is this a new strip?

<3 Don Rosa.

 

[Panajev2001a]

is this a new strip?

<3 Don Rosa.

I think it is a bit... well, I will check the date in a few, but it surely is a few years old.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I love Don Rosa, together with Carl Barks the two greatest writers when it comes to portrait Uncle Scrooge/Donald Duck.
Just read the one where Scrooge celebrates his first 50 years in Duckberg, great stuff with most of the villains in it.
<3
Oh and about the answer, in swedish it's

Spoiler

Tralla La

.

It is the same answer in Italian .

Congratulations .

I'll post my favourite panels of this story later on in this thread as prize (no, put the pitchforks and torches down... *runs*).

 

[Beer Monkey]

I knew the answer but I got here late.

Would you believe that 20 years ago I bought Rosa's 'Captain Kentucky' serials, totally influenced by Barks. They were published in newspapers in the 70s.

 

[borghe]

I knew the answer but I got here late.

Would you believe that 20 years ago I bought Rosa's 'Captain Kentucky' serials, totally influenced by Barks. They were published in newspapers in the 70s.

drooooooolll.....

grats. the amount of detail he puts into both his art and his stories is phenomenal. In the current Gemstone publications here in the US I remember the first (I thinik) issue of Uncle Scrooge had the Lost Dutchman "in-between" story to The Life and Times and on the inside back cover was all of the leg work done on researching the legend of the Lost Mine and making sure it fit in with other stories in TLaT. the only other writer in comics that interesting IMHO is Alan Moore. Just amazing.

 

[El_Victor]

I knew the answer but I got here late.

Would you believe that 20 years ago I bought Rosa's 'Captain Kentucky' serials, totally influenced by Barks. They were published in newspapers in the 70s.

Hardcore'

 

[Panajev2001a]

drooooooolll.....

grats. the amount of detail he puts into both his art and his stories is phenomenal. In the current Gemstone publications here in the US I remember the first (I thinik) issue of Uncle Scrooge had the Lost Dutchman "in-between" story to The Life and Times and on the inside back cover was all of the leg work done on researching the legend of the Lost Mine and making sure it fit in with other stories in TLaT. the only other writer in comics that interesting IMHO is Alan Moore. Just amazing.

Completely agree .

 

[DDayton]

Stupid Gemstone and their pricing McDuck out of the U.S. market...

Why can't ANYONE attempting to publish decent comics that are OPEN to the children's market try what works for the other company with currect SUCCESS in that market? Charging $100 a year for a comic won't do it... mutter mutter mutter.

 

[Belfast]

I prefer Carl Barks, but, well, the guy ain't around anymore.

Still, good to see somebody like Don Rosa keeping a good tradition going. Needless to say, these books still sell a helluva lot more in Europe than they do in the US.

My professor, Donald Ault, is the head of the comic studies program here at UF, and he's a total nut for Carl Barks. Interviewed him a good number of times back in the day. Sounds like a cool guy.

 

[VALIS]

Stupid Gemstone and their pricing McDuck out of the U.S. market...

Aren't those Gladstone/Gemstone Albums still $5.95 for 80 pages magazine sized? That's really not a bad deal considering most comics are $2.99 for 17(?) pages without ads and smaller.

 

[thomaser]

Did you know Donald Duck & Co. is the best-selling weekly magazine in Norway? It's been that way for probably 30 years or so, maybe even more, and it's in the lead by a large margin. Donald is like religion here. We even have a philosophy called "Donaldism". Jon Gisle, the guy who introduced Donaldism, operates with nine main-currents in the development of Donald:

The Ur-donaldism (donaldismus antiquus optimus maximus) (1948-52)
Older classical donaldism (donaldismus classicus vulgaris) (1951-57)
Younger classical donaldism (the romantic period) (donaldismus classicus romanticus) (1957-63)
Commercialism (donaldismus speculativus phyphasan) (1963-66)
Klodrism* (donaldismus clodrismus superlativus optimus) (1965-67)
The regular contemporary donaldism (donaldismus modernis vulgaris) (1965- )
Realism (donaldismus macabris diabolus) (1966- )
The synthetic klodrism* (donaldismus modernis clodrismosyntheticus) (1971- )

*Klodrik is an annoying, poor, scruffy cousin of Donald's, who turned up frequently in the mid-60s. Klodrik is the Norwegian name - I don't know the American name.

This list was written in 1973, and hasn't been updated since, so it lacks later shifts and developments in the philosophy and science of Donaldism.

 

[Panajev2001a]

*Klodrik is an annoying, poor, scruffy cousin of Donald's, who turned up frequently in the mid-60s. Klodrik is the Norwegian name - I don't know the American name.

His name is Whitewater Duck: his first name is Abner and he is Fethry Duck's brother thus son of Eider Duck and Lulubelle Loon.

Good thing that people in Norway know good comics when they see them .

 

[thomaser]

His name is Whitewater Duck: his first name is Abner and he is Fethry Duck's brother thus son of Eider Duck and Lulubelle Loon.

Ahhh... Stokkstein Duck (brother), Eddy Duck (father) and Lulla Lom (mother). Not only that, but Bestemor Duck (Elvira Cooth) is his grandmother. I take it you use Don Rosa's family tree? The best thing he ever made

Actually, the best thing about Don Rosa is the "D.U.C.K." he always hides somewhere on the first page of his stories. Usually in a pile of coins in Scrooge's vault.

 

[Drexon]

Thanks for the swedish info , it is great to see how the legend of Scrooge McDuck was brought in so many different countries .

Hell yeah! Donald Duck is huge as hell in Sweden (and scandinavia it would seem). I looooved reading the long ass Don Rosa adventures when I was little... the cube people being my favourite.

 

[Uncle]

Hell yeah! Donald Duck is huge as hell in Sweden (and scandinavia it would seem).

It's big in Finland too. Especially Rosa. He even made a story that takes place in Finland (The Quest for Kalevala).

 

[Pang]

His name is Whitewater Duck: his first name is Abner and he is Fethry Duck's brother thus son of Eider Duck and Lulubelle Loon.

Klodrik isn't Whitewater Duck, but his brother, Fethry Duck.
Really, now, bub, a simple google search would have told you that.

 

[thomaser]

So, whatever happened with Hewey, Louie and Dewey's father? Could he be Daisy's brother? Why did he disappear?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Klodrik isn't Whitewater Duck, but his brother, Fethry Duck.
Really, now, bub, a simple google search would have told you that.

Do not call me bub... I never found Fethry "annoying and scruffy", to me his brother fit the bill more so I thought Lodrik was Abner: if I wanted to Google Klodrik I would have done so smart-ass .

 

[Panajev2001a]

There, the family tree for you all .

Here you have a good analysis of each character's history and relations: http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/rosa.html

Names : Informations about characters :
Huey, Dewey and Louie Duck Donald's triplet nephews. Regular characters in Barks' stories.
? Duck (Huey, Dewey and Louie's father) Unlike Mark Worden, Don Rosa chose to not show the face of this character, and to designate it with a "?". The history of Huey, Dewey and Louie's parents is still a mystery. it would be unexplainable, in any acceptable way, as to where the Nephews' parents had been for so long and why they would abandon their children. The only reason,
other than that they were low-down good-fer-nuthins, would be that they were dead... So Egmont publishers don't allow creators to tell anything about it. Acoording to Don Rosa, the father of Huey, Dewey and Louie is Daisy's brother, which would explain why their last name is Duck. But this is NOT the same Duck name as Donald's and Grandma Duck's last name. According to Don Rosa, the name Duck is a rather common name in Duckburg, like "Smith" and "Jones" in America. The reason why Don Rosa didn't show the relation between him and Daisy in this Family Tree is that there wasn't room for it, but this is one good reason why a story about the Duck's family relations should still be told.

 

[Drexon]

Heh. I remember having that poster, in swedish though, when I was little.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Look at the wealth of details in that picture: for example Scrooge's dime hanging on a thread near his father's spot.

 

[Callo Merlose]

So wait, does that make Donald and Daisy kissing cousins?

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

A Don Rosa-related topic! *Swoons*

Are the majority of you American?

America seems to be the only country in the world without Duck comics in circulation.

Go figure, right?

 

[Beer Monkey]

I read Gold Key and Whitman Barks reprints constantly as a child in the mid '70s.

In the late 80s I bought tons of Gladstone Barks and Rosa comics, and stressed at never having the money for the complete Barks library hardcovers. I corresponded with Rosa and met him once.

I think Rosa is very well respected in the comics community in North America, but there just isn't a lot of demand for Disney comics here any more, at least not in the current format. When Gladstone was in their heyday in the late 80s and early 90s, collectors could buy them for cheap reprints (and new Rosa and european translations), but kids could also buy them cheap (what were they, only a buck or so) at newsstands and grocery stores. Kids aren't going to buy a $7 Disney comic.

 

[Yossarian]

A Don Rosa-related topic! *Swoons*

Are the majority of you American?

America seems to be the only country in the world without Duck comics in circulation.

Go figure, right?

We have them now. They went on sabbatical for a few years in the nineties, but they're released bimonthly now.

For instance, we finally got the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck in paperback here, and it reached #5 in the TPB sales charts.

 

[MASB]

My professor, Donald Ault, is the head of the comic studies program here at UF, and he's a total nut for Carl Barks. Interviewed him a good number of times back in the day. Sounds like a cool guy.

I loved his Carl Barks: Conversations book. It's been a year or two since I asked him about when his other Carl Barks book will be published. Still not published! Get to work Don!

Speaking of Rosa, when Gemstone first started publishing Disney comics a few years ago, I missed an issue of WDCS with his Three Caballeros story. I got a copy from one of Rosa's friends in North Dakota, and it turned out that Rosa had autographed it! Including shipping, he only charged me a dollar more than what the comic would have cost at retail. I was just wanting the issue, so the fact that the copy was autographed as well is amazing.

As for Captain Kentucky, I have all the strips which were published in The Don Rosa Archives II. It's easily the best comic strip published within the last 25 years. I can't think of any strip that comes close. It did things with the newspaper strip that I didn't think was possible. Sad it only lasted three years and no one else has seemed to explore the paths it opened.

 

[Panajev2001a]

So wait, does that make Donald and Daisy kissing cousins?

No, Duck is a common Family name in Duckburg and surroundings. You do not believe that all Smiths' in America are blood relatives right ?

 

[Panajev2001a]

We have them now. They went on sabbatical for a few years in the nineties, but they're released bimonthly now.

For instance, we finally got the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck in paperback here, and it reached #5 in the TPB sales charts.

I am becoming interested in having a version in English to appreciate Rosa's original writing .

 

[DDayton]

Aren't those Gladstone/Gemstone Albums still $5.95 for 80 pages magazine sized? That's really not a bad deal considering most comics are $2.99 for 17(?) pages without ads and smaller.

I'm not saying the price per page isn't good -- I'm saying they are pricing themselves out of reach of potential new children buyers. $100 a year for a subscription will NOT sell, and you don't see these in most stores. The Duck comics are really only going to sell to older comic nerds like me -- and, well, that won't do much good.

 

[Beer Monkey]

Is there a Don Rosa checklist?

 

[TekunoRobby]

I really want to check out these comics, I was a huge fan of Ducktales as a kid.

Do they sell compilation packs of Carl Barks and Dan Rosa's works?

 

[Rorschach]

So wait, does that make Donald and Daisy kissing cousins?

Donald's sister got it on with Daisy's brother. No Blood relation.

Duck incest...GAF has reached a new horizon.