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What is sleep? Is it giving in to not stimulating your brain? eh?

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I'm wondering because most of my life, many nights I don't really want to surrender to sleep. If I feel like I accomplish something major, something meaningful, then I can allow myself to sleep. This can be reading book, beating Halflife2, finishing project work, et. al., as long as whatever iactivity it is was enriching. Most nights, only then may I sleep.

I sleep surrender? Does one give in and know then they will sleep?
 

Jotaro

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RaymondCarver said:
I'm wondering because most of my life, many nights I don't really want to surrender to sleep. If I feel like I accomplish something major, something meaningful, then I can allow myself to sleep. This can be reading book, beating Halflife2, finishing project work, et. al., as long as whatever iactivity it is was enriching. Most nights, only then may I sleep.

I sleep surrender? Does one give in and know then they will sleep?

I just never want to stop learning things, doing things, so I only go to sleep when I am very tired. The very tought of being uncouncious actually creeps me out.
 

Bobety

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There are lots of different theories on why we sleep, I can't really remember many of them from psych class though it's all slipped my mind...Basicly we just need to replenish lost resources and help to sort out the information we learn in the daytime.
 

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It's 4 AM. I haven't been to sleep yet. I want to, because I have this nasty headache, but I can't, because I have this nasty headache.
 

Jotaro

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I read that scientists do not know, all in all, why we have to sleep, believe it or not. They say we should just to get back energy and clean our subconsious, simply just by laying down and keeping ourselves quiet for a couple hours.

It however very important, because a human dies faster by lack of sleep than by a lack of water.
 

Zensetsu

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RaymondCarver said:
I'm wondering because most of my life, many nights I don't really want to surrender to sleep. If I feel like I accomplish something major, something meaningful, then I can allow myself to sleep. This can be reading book, beating Halflife2, finishing project work, et. al., as long as whatever iactivity it is was enriching. Most nights, only then may I sleep.

I sleep surrender? Does one give in and know then they will sleep?


I know what you're saying, sometimes if i have just sat around all day i feel guilty about not "accomplishing" anything and so i just put off sleeping as long as i can. Doesn't happen much these days but back in highschool during the hollidays i would do it heaps.
 

luxsol

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Jotaro said:
It however very important, because a human dies faster by lack of sleep than by a lack of water.
Lies! I went 5 days without any sleep and i didn't die! The worst that happened to me was having dreams while i was awake (hallucinations). A person can go without sleep for a week or two and still not die... but suffer a permanent change of personality. I don't think anyone knows how long a person can stay awake without dying (and not being tortured). They say if a human doesn't drink water (or something to hydrate the body) for 3 days they will die of dehydration.
 

Bobety

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I remember watching this documentary about some guy who had an EXTREMELY rare kind of insomnia (only 2 documented cases, ever), where his body just could not enter a state of sleep, they drugged him up and gave him horse tranquilisers and everything, which would make him groggy and unable to speak but his brainwave patterns showed he still wasn't actually asleep... this went on for about 6 months IIRC (maybe 6 weeks, it's been a long time since i saw it) before he finally died...he spent all that time agonising about wanting to sleep...man what a shitty way to go.
 

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Bobety said:
I remember watching this documentary about some guy who had an EXTREMELY rare kind of insomnia (only 2 documented cases, ever), where his body just could not enter a state of sleep, they drugged him up and gave him horse tranquilisers and everything, which would make him groggy and unable to speak but his brainwave patterns showed he still wasn't actually asleep... this went on for about 6 months IIRC (maybe 6 weeks, it's been a long time since i saw it) before he finally died...he spent all that time agonising about wanting to sleep...man what a shitty way to go.

Wow. I think I have the exact opposite problem of whatever that poor guy had.
 

Ferrio

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Bobety said:
I remember watching this documentary about some guy who had an EXTREMELY rare kind of insomnia (only 2 documented cases, ever), where his body just could not enter a state of sleep, they drugged him up and gave him horse tranquilisers and everything, which would make him groggy and unable to speak but his brainwave patterns showed he still wasn't actually asleep... this went on for about 6 months IIRC (maybe 6 weeks, it's been a long time since i saw it) before he finally died...he spent all that time agonising about wanting to sleep...man what a shitty way to go.


Believe it was 6 months.
 

madara

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I'm opposite of everyone. I need to sleep 14hrs a day at least or I'm very messed up, stupid MS. I just wish more then half my day was not nightmares, sigh.
 
madara said:
I'm opposite of everyone. I need to sleep 14hrs a day at least or I'm very messed up, stupid MS. I just wish more then half my day was not nightmares, sigh.

You have MS madara? Shit that sucks. I am studying MS. Hopefully some relief will come soon.
 

Kuramu

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I like how Daniel Dennett put it.... the question "why do we sleep?" is all backward. the question should be "why are we awake?"

Well, we're awake to collect food, procreate, etc.... after that, being awake is a waste of energy. Experiencing the world is a luxury, not the reason for our existence.
 

karasu

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Kuramu said:
I like how Daniel Dennett put it.... the question "why do we sleep?" is all backward. the question should be "why are we awake?"

Well, we're awake to collect food, procreate, etc.... after that, being awake is a waste of energy. Experiencing the world is a luxury, not the reason for our existence.


If experienceing the world is an unecessary luxury, wtf is the point of food and procreation? Surely it isn't procreation just for the sake of procreation.
 

Kuramu

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karasu said:
If experienceing the world is an unecessary luxury, wtf is the point of food and procreation? Surely it isn't procreation just for the sake of procreation.

You're making the assumption that there is a point to living at all. Is there a point to rocks existing? to protons existing? or is it just the way things are. I would argue that living things eat and procreate because the ones that don't would no longer exist, thus leaving the world only with the ones that do.

Now, if you hold some sort of religious belief that has a higher being who created the universe with some goal in mind, then you would be right to expect there to be a point. However, the existence of a higher being with a higher purpose is not a given.
 
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