Kobun Heat
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My word, a whole ten copies!Billy Rygar said:
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Where the reprints came from
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Ghengis Cohen
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You collect games don't you.Kobun Heat said:
Kobun Heat
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OH TEH NOES YOU FOUND OUT MY HORRIBLE SECRETBilly Rygar said:
It's true. There's a sealed Mega Man 5 in my attic. I'm so ashamed. I should open it, even though it's worth like three hundred dollars, and give it to someone who wants to play it.
Some Guy commenting on the Article said:
Now, I suddenly having interesting thoughts... if the company existed to quickly reprint copies and to pawn them off as "originals" on eBay for $100 each, I greatly dislike the idea. If they are reprinting and selling the games at a profit but not trying to mask it, I love the idea.
I do find it hard to believe it would be worthwhile to spend that much on reprints only to sell them, a few at a time, on eBay for $100 or so apiece. It certainly sounds evil and conniving, but I honestly can't figure out how that would be worth the amount of time it would take to recoup their costs.
Kobun Heat said:
One person isn't a big deal, but when hundreds of people buy that many it becomes an issue. If 10,000 of a 200,000 run get bought up by hoarders that's 20% of the available stock.
When DDR w/ Mario started becoming rare the majority of what was left was bought up by eBay resellers and those who wanted it to play were forced to pay 3 times the amount for it.
Edit: I know the math is wrong, I wasn't thinking while typing it out. Shoot me.
the year 20XX
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Jeff-DSA said:
I think you're getting about 15% too upset.
Kobun Heat
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Jeff-DSA said:
That's some nice math there.
Kobun Heat
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An example of how one might fail the fifth grade?Jeff-DSA said:
Percentages aside, you guys are trying to prove an economic theory using only anecdotal evidence. It's not even a logical theory, considering that by the time a game becomes rare, it is by definition hard to find, and thus there simply aren't a lot of copies out there for 'hoarders' to buy up in the first place.
Rez isn't rare because Billy knows a guy who has ten of them. It's rare because Sega printed a few thousand copies. If everybody "hoarding" copies of Rez were to release them into the market, it would still be expensive.
GitarooMan
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Beezy said:Is there anyway to request games for GQD to reprint? I can't find Meteos anywhere.
You mean in-store right, cause it's in stock right now at ebgames.com and amazon
krypt0nian
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Here's hoping they grab Phoenix Wright next.
DavidDayton said:
Sapphire for PC Engine. Some "new" copies "mysteriously" turned up a few years back. "Hudson Soft did another print run that nobody knew about!" Yeah right. Never underestimate pirates (or the fools who are so desperate for a "super rare" game that they'll fork over hundreds of dollars for something they know in their heart is a bootleg).
Although at least the GQD stuff aren't bootlegs. Are they seriously thinking about reprinting Cosmic Fantasy 2 or Exile? The market for that shit would have to be tiny. Ditto for any Saturn reprints. At least the PSone stuff has a large market to sell into.
Oddly enough, I was thinking about selling my (still in shrinkwrap) copy of Persona 2 the other day because I'll probably never get around to playing it (PS2 RPGs are fugly enough, never mind PS1). Was wondering how much it might be worth and had no idea it had been reprinted. Maybe I should just play it now :lol
Kobun Heat said:
I know, I know. The hoarders really don't bother me too much, I'm just trying to explain why people tend to hate them. It can be irritating though if you are the one paying $100 for a game when you know Jimmy down the street cleared out your local Gamestop and listed them all on eBay.
Kobun Heat
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That's another thing. Video game collecting very rarely makes substantial distinctions between printings. Even if the new Rez games had a big MADE BY GAMEQUEST DIRECT sticker on the front, they'd still knock prices of the originals way down.sonarrat said:
Look at Final Fantasy Tactics. The non-GH printing of that used to go for $80, but now you're not gonna get more than twenty or so.
Kobun Heat
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If I'm at a flea market and buy something that's worth $100 for a buck right under your nose, you don't get to complain because you'd have enjoyed it more than me. Irritated, sure, but it's not as if you're somehow morally in the right and I'm a bastard.Jeff-DSA said:
HyperZone<3
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I think these dudes are doing a service to the industry. I hope they eventually expand into doing their own publishing on quirky niche games, I don't think there can be too many games out there where the forces of evil are defeated by guitar J-pop and summoning giant foodstuffs.
(Gitaroo-Man and Rhapsody)
Their website has brand new DC games also. Thats pretty awesome in of itself.
(Gitaroo-Man and Rhapsody)
Their website has brand new DC games also. Thats pretty awesome in of itself.
Attack You
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Kobun Heat said:
That situation can best be described as "lucky." If I saw you snatch up 10 or 20 copies of the same game right in front of me in the same fashion, then that would be "greedy." Fuck morals, man. That's just plain inconsiderate.
When I used to work at Toys R Us, and we'd have the 3-for-2 deal going on, local dealers would come in and buy up a lot of recently released games because the profit margins were better off of this deal than ordering through their distributors or what have you. While I can't blame anyone for trying to make easy money, there's no quicker way to pissing people off than inconveniencing them (by having to go somewhere else to buy something and likely at a higher price).
Kobun Heat
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So basically, if I've got $50, and I don't give it to you, that's inconsiderate?Attack You said:
Ghengis Cohen
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Like I said before, thank god for these reprints!
chaostrophy
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I'm not a collector, I own no unopened games and have never bought a game with the intention of making a profit from it. But I don't get the hate for eBay sellers. The way I see it, it doesn't take long after a game comes out to read reviews, message board impressions, etc. to decide if you want to buy the game or not. Those who can't find a game because of eBay "hoarders" snatching up the copies after it becomes rare are generally people waiting for the game to drop in price or become available used. In other words, people who are too cheap to pay full price for a game to support the developers.
Attack You
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Kobun Heat said:
Only if you think I have as much right to have at your earned money as I do purchasing a game off a store shelf.
Ghengis Cohen
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I pay full price for almost all of my games in order to support the developers.chaostrophy said:
Kobun Heat
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You do have that right, unless there's somebody in front of you buying "your" copy.Attack You said:Only if you think I have as much right to have at your earned money as I do purchasing a game off a store shelf.
Attack You
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Kobun Heat said:
Wait, what? I'd have to choke a bitch that went reaching into my pocket for $50.
Kobun Heat
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No, I mean you have the right to buy a product off a store shelf, but not if somebody ahead of you bought it.Attack You said:Wait, what? I'd have to choke a bitch that went reaching into my pocket for $50.
PC Gaijin said:
They've had Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Exile for order on the WD page for a while, I remember wanting to order CF2 from there but I never got around to it. I'm really excited for this, I totally missed out on Eternal Punishment first time through, and now others can experience the joy known as Rez for a price that doesn't break the bank. I hope they reprint Suikoden I and II and Valkyrie Profile - even though I own all 3 and they're worth a ton of money, more people deserve to play these games.
amodf said:
Oh, I don't think it would be difficult or costly for the actual physical pressing and packaging of the games. Asian pirates can (and have) already made knockoffs of PC Engine games that are almost indistinguishable from the originals. I'm thinking of the cost/difficulty in getting the rights to the games. Did WD still have publishing rights in NA for those games? If they did what happened to the rights when WD went under? If not, does Telenet or whoever made the games to begin with even exist anymore? It would probably cost more money to get all the legal stuff squared away then you would make from the reprinting. I mean, those games aren't exactly in the stratosphere as far as pricing/demand to begin with, and how many people would even give a shit if they were repressed? The Turbo collectors market ain't that big. I think the only reason the Sapphire reprint happened was because (a) it was a bootleg, so no need to spend money/time getting the rights and (b) the prices were $300-400+ on the game. So a small-time pirate could make some decent change off of it, but I can't see any real commercial operation recouping enough on sales to such a tiny market as the Turbo to make it worthwhile.
f_elz said:
Sony stopped putting white sticky labels on top of their games in the middle of 2005. Anything printed after that will just have the Y-fold wrap, but no label. That's the only way to distinguish reprints. But even if you had a copy of Rez with the original label - like me - you were still fucking hosed.
Warm Machine
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I'd like the manual and CD/DVD to say 2nd Printing on it somewhere small.
GitarooMan
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djtiesto said:
Sort of OT, but does anyone think either of these worth the money to play now? I'm not too familar with them, but I'm always looking for some good Turbo Duo stuff.
inpHilltr8r
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Just being a collector who cares about white sticky labels, is it's own punishment.
JackFrost2012
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people keep and collect those security labels? are you insane?
is my copy of Rez worth more if I keep the bag I took it home from Best Buy in?
is my copy of Rez worth more if I keep the bag I took it home from Best Buy in?
GitarooMan said:
Cosmic Fantasy 2 doesn't really hold up - lots of levelling is required and regular fights seemingly drag out forever. Then again I only really played 2 hours of it. The voice acting is pretty cheesy, but well done in the time period considering. The game is an extremely traditional RPG, it was painfully average even for the time it came out in, IMO.
Exile is pretty enjoyable... it's kind of like a much faster paced Zelda II, with slightly more confusing dungeon layouts. It's really easy and short (shouldn't take more than 4-5 hours to beat), but it's charming, in a way. I played the Genesis version ages ago, that one suffers from a pure nonsense translation, at least the WD translation of the Duo version is coherent, plus the Duo one has much better music (including some early 90's housey sounding stuff which I liked a lot). I'm gonna pick up a copy of Exile II Wicked Phenomenon one of these days... I hear WD fucked with the difficulty (go figure
) and the game is almost impossible.GitarooMan said:
No. Cosmic Fantasy 2 is very badly dated. It wasn't that great at release either. The battles are extremely slow. It seems like it has to access the CD to load a sound effect for every single attack, so the fights really drag on. Exile isn't quite as bad, but it's nothing special.
sonarrat said:
There's a series of games by Spiderweb Software (same guys who do the Geneforge games) for Mac called Exile, but those are completely different. The one for Duo/Genesis is an actio RPG with overhead adventure screens and side scrolling dungeon stages that starts in the Middle East (and moves to India, Japan, etc). It's good.
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Kobun Heat said:
Well if it was a limited release then yes demand for the supply drives up the prices. But if I want to play a game that is rare and now there is a service that lets me do this while raining on a scalpers day then I say awesome!