Bernkastel
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We won't get any security updates. Nothing to protect you from new exploits, viruses and malwares.
Windows 10 support ends Tomorrow (October 14, 2025)
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crackajack
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I rather ask myself then "Is there a reason to stay on any Win?" If you want to avoid MS, you better just use Linux anyway?!? I believe the compatibility is overall pretty good already and I assume a significant number of gamers might switch right now, which should improve official support also in the future.
Reizo Ryuu
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this is definitely not happening.
crackajack
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I must have dreamed the dozens of youtubers and gaming magazines talking a lot about switching to Linux in the last couple of months then. Even some colleague of mine came up with that idea to my surprise. Because F MS... lol
I don't talk about reaching 50% and dominance. Just a few steps towards at least Apple numbers is certainly already significant short term and something that puts Linux actually on the radar of company support, at least similar as Apple is. Both alternatives have been somewhat supported now and then but never really consistently. I believe a few percent more could already trigger a change, more than Steamdeck alone was able to do.
Zuzu
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I got the extended support for an additional year. After that I'll subscribe to something like 0Patch to keep getting security updates on Windows 10 until maybe 2030. My computer can't upgrade to W11 and I'm not going to be buying a new computer for Windows any time soon.
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Reizo Ryuu
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a tiny loud minority living in a bubble as always, most people don't care.
Guilty_AI
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"Most people" cant even upgrade to win11, they'll either have to stay on 10 or do something non-normie like switching to linux or use unusual methods to keep up to date.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Soren01
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You should upgrade to Windows 11 soon. Even if your hardware isn't officially supported, there are easy workarounds. After installing, use Chris Titus Tech's tool
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GitHub - ChrisTitusTech/winutil: Chris Titus Tech's Windows Utility - Install Programs, Tweaks, Fixes, and Updates
Chris Titus Tech's Windows Utility - Install Programs, Tweaks, Fixes, and Updates - ChrisTitusTech/winutil
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ShadowkillXNA
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First thing I did when I picked up my new lenovo ideapad last month was stick in a boot usb and repartition and install win 10.
Never made it to the win 11 boot screen lol
Never made it to the win 11 boot screen lol
Guilty_AI
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And they'll have to get out of their comfort zone whether they like or not.
Theres a reason why so much noise is being made over this forced upgrade, that being almost half of users are still on 10. And not by choice either, they simply cannot upgrade because they dont meet hardware requirements. Switching to linux will be among the alternatives they'll come across when these 600 million users start looking for solutions.
Reizo Ryuu
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No they won't, what kind of fantasy world are you living in?
They'll either not care and do nothing, contact the shop to fix it for them or get upgrades, or just buy a new laptop.
StereoVsn
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It's fine once you debloat it, prevent feature updates through Group Policy for a year (too many bugs), and block the telemetry.
And of course block Clippy 3.0 from installing.
Personally I still have OneDrive as I find it useful and just pause during gaming.
Guilty_AI
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The shop can do nothing about this, and average users wont be paying hundreds to thousands of dollars on new hardware for a windows update they clearly don't need.
They'll either stay on 10, ignoring everything and everyone around them warning of "security" risks, or pick a less usual solution, among which the easiest and safest for common everyday use is a linux distro
There is no comfortable patch left for hundreds of millions of users, thats the issue.
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ShadowkillXNA
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Reizo Ryuu
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of course they can, if you are missing a tpm module or even just a turned off bios setting they'll fix that for you no problem, and at the very least they can walk users through getting ESU for another year if they are so deathly afraid of their machine exploding now.
There's no having to get out of their comfort zone, what you're proposing is pure fantasy; life will go on for most users without them ever knowing what linux even is.
Guilty_AI
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no, they'll say you'll need to buy a new CPU (or an entire new laptop if that's what you're using), subscribe to some MS service for 60 to 250 dollars for a temporary solution, or that there's nothing else you can do about it.
The cooler shops may walk them through some of the 'hacks', but that's about it.
JohnnyFootball
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Use WIndows 10 IoT LTSC. Itll get support for a long ass time.
Reizo Ryuu
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Well good thing that the windows update screen in windows itself doesn't say that then, just click enroll now and even a free option presents itself
What hacks? turning on a bios setting or enrolling in ESU isn't hack.
Again, you're living in a fantasy world where this is somehow such a giant problem for general users they'll be required to jump out of their comfort zone; they won't.
Guilty_AI
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That's only for europe's EEA region (i guess some EU legal thing), and still just a temporary solution.Well good thing that the windows update screen in windows itself doesn't say that then, just click enroll now and even a free option presents itself
We're talking about normies, so much as entering the bios screen is a hack to them.
And judging from your answers, seems you yourself admited switching to 11 isn't an easy process for those users, as all of what you said involves remaining on 10.
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Magic Carpet
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I disabled OneDrive and saw a big improvement in overall responsiveness.
Win 11 really is bloated with too much stuff running in the background. But it does work
Reizo Ryuu
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no it isn't, ESU is free if you choose the sync your settings option
...what are you talking about now? enabling a bios setting or enrolling in ESU aren't hacks, the shop can do either for them within like 5 seconds if it's so incredibly hard for the user to follow the live instructions of having to press 3 whole buttons instead.
StereoVsn
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I think pausing it gets you most of the way there. I will test to see if disabling is much better performance wise.
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Guilty_AI
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Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for Windows 10
Learn about the Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for Windows 10. The ESU program gives customers the option to receive security updates for Windows 10.
learn.microsoft.com
It is only ""free"" if you're subscribed to 365, and still only a temporary solution.
Whatever method this is it isn't official, as the official ways require you to be subscribed to something. As such, shops wouldn't do it (unless they're the cool ones).
Bernkastel
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Just installed EndeavourOS on 500 GB WD Red SSD. Heres my start with Linux.
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