brotkasten
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The problem is that on screen buttons have absolutely no advantage for the customer and are just a cost cutting measure for the manufacturer, which they don't pass on, of course.
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Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
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The problem is that on screen buttons have absolutely no advantage for the customer and are just a cost cutting measure for the manufacturer, which they don't pass on, of course.
Poodlestrike
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brotkasten
Member
I dunno, 635 only put me back a hundred bucks. I'd call that a savings
The phone is not that different from the Lumia 520 the year before, which was given away as a pack-in in cereal boxes (it was that cheap). And that one had capacitive buttons.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I dunno, from this it seems like a decent upgrade overall.
And anyway: I still don't see there being a problem with on-screen buttons in the first place, aside from maybe some sort of dislike of corporations stretching profit margins. They're buttons. They work.
juliushandle
Member
On screen buttons on my 635 work great and look cool when they change orientation. I don't see them as "cheap" at all.
The on-screen button bar can be your theme color. That's an advantage I guess.
Both capacitive and on-screen buttons are terrible with toolbars and tab bars on the bottom of apps. Google has been trying to solve this by putting everything at the top, like with hamburger menus. This has its own sets of issues though. I guess this is the interaction model that Microsoft is going to as well. All around bad situation.
LukasTaves
Member
My phone screen broke so I get a 640 keep me floating until 950 hits. I honestly love the on screen buttons, not only they look great because the theme changes the bar, I far less accidentally press them when grabbing the phone.
Plus the apps do a great job telling when it should be hidden and when it should be shown, so they almost never take a needed screen space.
There are some bugs, because every now and then the app fails to adjust it's UI for the bar, but usually hiding or showing does the trick.
Plus the apps do a great job telling when it should be hidden and when it should be shown, so they almost never take a needed screen space.
There are some bugs, because every now and then the app fails to adjust it's UI for the bar, but usually hiding or showing does the trick.
Steelyuhas
Member
The thought of onscreen buttons on a $600-$700 flagship device...
nigDASTARDLY
Member
I dont understand this complaint either, the on screen buttons can be hidden just by swiping up and its always responsive.
The only problem I run into specifically with the preview, is it can be way too easy to hit the windows key while txt messaging with the on screen buttons. I think the clearance is cutting it a little close there, but otherwise I seriously prefer that to hitting search button without fail with hardware buttons.
Exactly, there's going to be a big empty space (inside and out) where they should be, but they simply won't be there.
Picked up the 640 yesterday $79.99, are you kidding me? the Body Glove case was 40% the cost of the phone for crying out loud. What a freaking no brainer this phone is.... perfect middle usage, low cost of entry device. After adding an Sd card.
Will hold me over just fine until the new flags or surface phones hit to decide if they are worth my money.
Oh and coming from an Ativ S Neo with capacitive buttons (including a physical windows button) for turning on screen and I surprisingly am not arsed by the on screen buttons as badly as I thought I'd be. Agree that I seem to hit the buttons less by accident and the swipe to hide is nice.
First time using glace and LUMIA camera and those are very cool.
Will hold me over just fine until the new flags or surface phones hit to decide if they are worth my money.
Oh and coming from an Ativ S Neo with capacitive buttons (including a physical windows button) for turning on screen and I surprisingly am not arsed by the on screen buttons as badly as I thought I'd be. Agree that I seem to hit the buttons less by accident and the swipe to hide is nice.
First time using glace and LUMIA camera and those are very cool.
735 is bad for that. Loads of room below for the buttons.
Nexus 6 does it right
Agree if they're going to use on screen buttons, use the bottom of the phone area for screen real estate
Two steps to go back or home? Sounds like the worst thing ever.
yepp, swiping so that the onscreen buttons don't cut off parts of the application (they don't always "minimize" the app to fit) and then having to swipe again to get them to show, just to go back within the application. And yeah, the windows button is just too easy to hit when typing, did not have this issue on my 1020 at all.
Might have been ok, with thin bezels, but then, with too thin bezels, you'll probably run into problems trying to swipe it on and off.
juliushandle
Member
Damn, why is the 940 so cheap at $79 while the XL is $249?
940 eh?
juliushandle
Member
Sorry, 640
I have it on my 630 now and its okay. Maybe a hard reset would have been good.
I ended up having to do a hard reset, lol. Got a looping loading screen and start wouldn't show up.
Are you signed in? And long press the tracks to get the download option.
Still can't send or receive text messages without having to reboot my phone every time I want to send or receive one.
The Process
- Type Text
- Reboot phone so text goes out
- Wait 5 minutes or so for the receiving party to reply
- Reboot phone
- Read incoming text then reply
- Reboot so text goes out
Gotta love it! I just stick to Skype now...
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Since I was directed here, I have a Nokia Lumia 520, and I was wondering if it's possible to recover deleted text messages. Backup isn't turned on, either. I need to recover a person's number that I met couple months ago, and it's somewhat important.
Thanks
Thanks
No backup? You're screwed.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
I really hate windows mobile 10 so far. Browsing is bad, input is wrong, lot's of weird bugs, sudden death of apps, broken downloads, saving images just sucks etc.
I love windows phone, but this shit....
I love windows phone, but this shit....
Cute Dragon Here
Member
It's also pre-release software.
I wouldn't give judgment to any pre-release software unless it's a perpetual beta, or it's days away from RTM.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
It should be way further now. Heck Windows10 is gold.
Just load one *.gif and the edge browser crashes.
Tabbing is bugged as hell. Almost every feature has multiple bugs.
Preview of ios and android where waaaaay better.
Fuck, even the stupid keyboard is full of bugs and non working elements.
Do MS test their shit?
Just load one *.gif and the edge browser crashes.
Tabbing is bugged as hell. Almost every feature has multiple bugs.
Preview of ios and android where waaaaay better.
Fuck, even the stupid keyboard is full of bugs and non working elements.
Do MS test their shit?
brotkasten
Member
The build for phones is not finalized until later this year (around October). Desktop is simply releasing much earlier and resources were shifted to "finish" the desktop build in time.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
Let's hope so. In the meantime it's a trainwreck....
Check your wireless providers website. You can get a list of numbers you've called and texted. Process of elimination could help you find the one you need.
Team Jones
Member
All I need from Window Phone 10 marketplace is a GREAT photo editing app; iPhone has a great app called 'Enlight' it does wonders for edit photos on the fly for my apparel company, 'Battle District'.
WP unofficial apps, in lieu of the official apps, are much better for business because they often have more functionality; multiple account access being the greatest of all functions.
Soon as I get that photo editing app, good by iPhone!
WP unofficial apps, in lieu of the official apps, are much better for business because they often have more functionality; multiple account access being the greatest of all functions.
Soon as I get that photo editing app, good by iPhone!
Team Jones
Member
I'll try it when I get home on my Icon. Enlight is so good, I haven't had a chance to explore other apps, like Photoshop Express on iPhone.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
cool. Will it give me the dates? I remember the exact day. Also, I have att. Where would I go on the website for that?
LukasTaves
Member
In some ways, like most of the UI it's already further along than desktop RTM even.