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Winning Eleven LE Impression

lachesis

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I had pretty extensive playtime since I got the game last thursday...
and since there seem to be no impression thread regarding this game, I'll post one. :)

Graphics:
I haven't noticed slow-down at all - but it stutters a bit when it's on "behind Goalie view" during goal-kicks. For some reason, it looks cleaned up compared to original 8.
Some of the character modelings are re-done, and they look quite good.

Animation:
Added motion are present - virtually in every place. New shooting animations are quite good and they even seem to add more goalie animations - I'd say about 10% has new animation. Not as much as I hoped for, but it's still something.

Sound:
I think they added few more commentaries for Jon Tabira. (Some commentaries that I've never heard) - although it supports 6 different spoken languages (Japanese, English, Spanish, German, French, Italian, IIRC) - but it only supports JP text for the menu. Music wise... it's not much. It's very WE ish. ;)

Presentation:
Also cleaned up. Easier to navigate around, and added "Team selection" button in the "quit" menu is also very subtle yet useful. You will find most things in right place. One thing that I would like to mention is that it also shows the age of each players on main formation menu too. (Something it was missing in past WE series - that you always had to search in ML to find out the age)

Gameplay:
The game has been changed into a totally different beast this time around. Side play are much harder - not that you can't dribble either side - but crossing is inaccurate and very few headers so far. WE8's OO cross has been toned down alot too. Basically the game is forcing us to play more "lobbing through pass" to make goals.

Mid-range shootings are more common in this game as well. Anywhere around the penalty box (especially about 45 dgree range of goalie), you have a shot. I've made a mid-range shoot from the corner of the penalty box with Beckham, right to the corner of the goal - and I've witness Totti doing none existing angle shot, near goalline.

GK AI's been toned down. Not to the point of dumbness - but more human like - but I'd say it's pretty dumb compared to past WE series.

Defense is a bit easier - especially man-to-man. Partially because the ball is much bouncier, and it takes a bit longer to do the propper ball traping when you receive a pass. Also players react little more "heavy" this time around - no more quick turns and all. I'm sure in time we'll all get used to this dribbling and see the tricks - but so far, it's the most difficult part of this game. A lot of intercepts, and a lot of mistakes. While' it's easy to intercept a ball from an attacker - but at the same time it's alot easier to re-intercepted the ball by attackers too - so don't hold onto your ball at all - give to the attackers ASAP when you intercept a ball. Anyhow, easier intercepting is making up the dumbed down Goalie AI.

Dribbling is harder. Defenders do catch up to you quicker - but it's not impossible. You just have to react a bit faster when you receive your ball - whether to pass to someone else, or dribble yourself. (about half tempo faster than original).

Ball speed and physics has been improved - and mid to long range shoots are just awesome. While the ball is harder to control during dribbling - but it moves alot faster in pass and through passes go furter into the empty area than it used to - so I think this is a "Through pass"game like 7FE. While players reaction and controls are slower - but because of the ball physics, the entire feel of the game is quite fast.

While it's a great disappointment that side playing is near impossible - but I have to admit that the feeling of "mid-range" shots are really good. Fast and poweful, and much more success rate. I'm not sure whether it tops off as best WE ever, but it's pretty close in that. While 8 was good, but I couldn't help feeling myself that I had chance of goal by "R1 or L1 Lobbing shot" or "OO cross" - and these two are both dumbed down. You will hit the goal post quite often, and more of those tense moments when the ball is loose within penalty box area. I feel more... how to say, "free" in terms of attacking routes as well - However, I do hope they kept the side attacking more useful once in a while.

Online:
I' haven't played online, but it's known that you can play online outside of JP with this game, and JP version of Playstation2, and some web-money. I'm not sure what the lag would be like in US though.

Finally, this game isn't perfect for me - but I'll take it as is. Because of the ball physics, things are much more eventful, unexpected and exciting like real soccer. I wasn't sure if I liked this game from the get-go - but after getting used to the new physics and play style - there's no going back for me. :)

lachesis
 
Also players react little more "heavy" this time around - no more quick turns and all. I'm sure in time we'll all get used to this dribbling and see the tricks - but so far, it's the most difficult part of this game. A lot of intercepts, and a lot of mistakes. While' it's easy to intercept a ball from an attacker - but at the same time it's alot easier to re-intercepted the ball by attackers too - so don't hold onto your ball at all - give to the attackers ASAP when you intercept a ball.
Yeah, this was probably necessary. WE8 was too easy in this respect.

Thanks
 
so no english txt in the menus?? thats weird.

anyways i'll have this in about a week so hopefull there are some good patches avail by then.

is there a WE8LE counterpart to the xpatch (WE7Ijap) available ?
 
hm, interesting.

i thought i had just read that they were slowing down the overall feel of the game, but i guess thats not what happened.

sounds good though, if a little less than perfect.

im still very happy with WE8I for now.

thanks for the impressions.
 
As a single player game I like WE8LE, but multiplayer is not much fun since you lose the ball so damn easily and the players have difficulty holding the ball close to their legs...and since dribbling is much harder than in WE8/PES4, it's more frustrating to try and take on players. The shooting is excellent as are through passes. The slower pace is good too, but dribbling is a bit too difficult. Also, the game really stops often as the referee tends to stop the game after every other collision, but this also forces you to play more realistically, as you cannot really try to "harass" players on the ball all the time.
 
I was fiddling around the formation last night - and more "compact" formation tend to work better on counter-attacks and side-attacks. On the other hand, it was harder to penetrate in center for some reason (perhaps I need get more experience in ball handling). 6star difficulty is pretty much kicking my butt quite so often - although I win about 50% so far.

I have new draft coming up, probably by end of this week - but not sure who I want...
Most good players are already taken by my other buddies in the league, and there are only few left.

My first pick is definitely Gilardino - but I'm pretty sure he will be snatched up very quickly.
2nd choice is of course... E'too - but I'm quite certain that eveyrone wants to have him as well...
3rd is Koller. But side attacking is pretty tough this time around, so I'm not really too excited to gamble with his height/heading. If not.. Kovacevich might work better for me - since his stat is also quite good.

Rehlb (sp?) from Bundesliga also interests me - that he has a good potential in real life soccer to become one of the greatest. However, since I'm playing WE with current stats against my other buddies, so what matters the most is the "current" stats. Albeit I can always use more midfielders - but right now I have Nedved, Ballack, Veron, Stankovic, Ljungberg, and Mellberg who can cover central midfielder line up - so not so sure I really need him.

Deco. Hmmm... since the stat says everything in this game, especially during tourneys... so I'm shying away from him, just like Rehlb. Good choice, but what I really need now is a tall, strong and fast rightside CF... (Someone like Van Nistelrooy might work, but there are only few left..)

Anyhow, yes. During offline matchups - there are quite a few fouls called - and perhaps I need to take advantage of such frequent free-kick opportunity - but getting set-play right this time around takes a lot more practice it seems.

lachesis
 
Review: http://www.evo-web.co.uk/articles.php?article=21026

Videos: http://www.pideos.co.uk/pages/we8le.htm (the "Joey Barton" video was pretty interesting - great collision detection)

Courtesy of Evo-Web --
ashmufc said:
Ok, I take requests. Here are my vids so far, most of them with the Ole patch.

There is too much jumping in the game esp against humans. It loook weird first time you play but you get used to it. Here are videos of it: http://rapidshare.de/files/1014308/ashmufc-WE8LWE-JUMPY.zip.html

Another one, showing how crap the goalie remains yet again, and Gerrard hits the post. http://rapidshare.de/files/1014442/ashmufc-we8lwe-gerrard_post-crap_goalkeeper.avi.html

OLE VIDS


Basically a video of Beckham in the new Engerland kit, doing some fancy skills.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/ashmufc-we8lwe-ole-beckham-new_kit.avi

I show the whole menu here including the music, then engerland vs brazil, short clip of that.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~siv...c-we8lwe-ole-menu_music+england_vs_brazil.avi

This is from cup mode,the world cup final, england vs brazil again. After a few seconds intot he game, Is how some detail of the england kit, also music ingame is included.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~siv...ufc-we8lwe-ole-cup_mode-england_vs_brazil.avi

The edit mode inc. nice backrounds. Show faces of Drogba, Eto'o then England players.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~siv...ufc-we8lwe-ole-edit_menu+faces_eto+drogba.avi

Man utd vs Arsenal game, short clip then shirts. Also note Arsenal shirt colour error, maybe due to otion file.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/ashmufc-we8lwe-arsenal_vs_utd-number_errors.avi

PSG vs Marseille showing off the kits during gameplay of both sides.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/ashmufc-we8lwe-psg_vs_marseille.avi

Extended gameplay for like 2 minutes of Arsenal vs bayern Munich.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~siv...8lwe-arsenal_vs_mucnhen=extended_gameplay.avi

Openinbg screens, the one with Konami, new logos, then Presss Start now screen, then menu buttons.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~siv...lwe-ole-whole_intro_inc_new_opening_menus.avi

Iran vs Japan
1st Half: http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/ashmufc-ole-iran_vs_japan-1st_half.avi
2nd Half: http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/ashmufc-ole-iran_vs_japan-2ndhalf.avi

Enjoy! Will put goals up soon. Requests taken. :biggrin: :welcome2: Ok, I take requests. Here are my vids so far, most of them with the Ole patch.


CVXFREAK said:
It felt like yesterday when the first version was released. =/
It was eight months ago.
 
I can't imagine how they can improve on WE8I.

I just played like 8 matches in a row with my friend and saw almost 3 hours vanish. In the last game he was a man down and tied it up with 20 seconds left in regulation. It is impossible to describe how freakin exciting this game gets in multiplayer. We both go insane everytime we score a critical goal.

Best sports game ever. Probably my favorite game this generation.

Konami = Gods.
 
bionic77 said:
Konami = Gods.

this=truth. and not just for the WE series. but it is really one of my favorite games ever.

god i love Konami, and WE.

its awesome to see a newly converted WE fan loving the game so much :D
 
lambchop said:
hey is there a widescreen mode avail in this version ....i can't remeber there being one in WE7i .. ?

Still no widescreen mode. Perhaps for PS3 WEs, but I don't think they would change it for PS2 WEs... :(

Anyhow, as much as I love WE games and Konami - but I also hate them for not bringing the most up-to-date versions in US, as well as no online, lack of license and very unjustified stats for some players like Robben.

lachesis
 
How do you switch off the Double Tap Shoot = Chip mode? I completely forgot what option that is. It's back on and it's pissing me off :-(
 
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