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Mists is the most friendly it's ever been to alts?
Carpe Libertatem
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I would've bought a few at $30 (mainly to get characters on other servers/factions), but probably won't buy any at $60. Will wait for a sale because it will happen at some point.
Currently, yes. Timeless Isle had a lot to do with that. At launch, things were terrible. The best recipes for various professions were locked behind reps. Some reps required other reps to even be unlocked. And boy, did we have a lot of reps to work on. Not to mention things like farms...Spirits of Harmony being soulbound...and the legendary questline. Sure, the legendary questline may be "optional", but you were always worse off than someone who actually did it.
Being that you'd be able to buy at least one alt to lvl 90, I wouldn't consider it that unfriendly. XD
CarbonatedFalcon
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Legendary Cloak.
Daily-locked rep-grinds for profession essentials.
Soulbound Spirits of Harmony.
To name a few.
Compared to Wrath and Cata at least, worse by a mile.
I'd actually argue that there are no real profession essentials.
Bracer enchants, weapon enchants, tailoring bag, blacksmithing belt buckle, whole lot of 476 gear (at launch, these weren't bad to have). All locked behind reps.
Cooking was a bit of a grind too. To learn the new feasts required mastery of all six of the ways.
Orochinagis
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I had to do one rep faction for the enchanments weapons, one for the 420 gear I think (before timeless island), another one for specific enchanments.
Thank god the cape tailoring is locked in WotK recipes.
The summer of Orgrimmar.
Gentleman Jack
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Good thing the feasts are worthless outside of a 25-40 man environment. Cooking is so fucked this expansion.
The noodle carts are actually a great and scalable idea, but they probably shouldn't have been introduced so late and with so many requirements.
CarbonatedFalcon
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ALL the holiday hats on Nazgrim!
Gentleman Jack
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So far the only use I have for noodle carts is to turn all these useless mad brewer's breakfast I get from Nomi into something I can sell/use.
The cost of making them is prohibitive otherwise, you're almost always better off making the individual 300 stat foods for 1-15 man activities.
Yeah, I never use the noodle carts or feasts. The noodle carts are a pretty neat idea, but the cost to make them is crazy. I just make individual 275 and 300 food really.
I think I'm the only one who hates it lol
Gentleman Jack
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wowwwww I know a lot of people who are going to be pissed off when I log in today.
I'm wondering if those pets will be reset back to level 1 since they got lost. I hope they get restored to lvl25 if they were leveled beforehand but I don't think I'll hold my breath.
My cinder kitten was restored in the exact state he was in prior to the patch. I wouldn't worry. Got my RAF mounts back too.
Gentleman Jack
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Motherfucker they broke oqueue 
Orochinagis
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My guild must have some of the stupidest raiding rules in existence...
Take raid invites. Accepted means you're expected to be there. Tentative or Decline means we expect you won't be there, and you have to explain to the raid leader why you didn't give early enough notice to not be invited in the first place. If you don't respond, well, they still assume you'll be there.
Start times...if the raid invite says 8:30, you're expected to be online at 8:15. Come 8:16, you're penalized, but the raid leader won't start trying to replace you until 8:20.
The one I learned today: if you want to stop raiding, you're expected to give three week notice. Hell with that.
Seriously, if our raids actually had this same level of discipline, maybe we'd be progressing instead of going back to wiping for hours on Heroic Protectors and Heroic Galakras.
Take raid invites. Accepted means you're expected to be there. Tentative or Decline means we expect you won't be there, and you have to explain to the raid leader why you didn't give early enough notice to not be invited in the first place. If you don't respond, well, they still assume you'll be there.
Start times...if the raid invite says 8:30, you're expected to be online at 8:15. Come 8:16, you're penalized, but the raid leader won't start trying to replace you until 8:20.
The one I learned today: if you want to stop raiding, you're expected to give three week notice. Hell with that.
Seriously, if our raids actually had this same level of discipline, maybe we'd be progressing instead of going back to wiping for hours on Heroic Protectors and Heroic Galakras.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Got Warforged Bracers of Blind Hatred (BiS, not Heroic though) today. Which is pretty nice. Replacing non-optimal, un-upgraded bracers.
Only normal SoO (non-warforged at least) upgrades I have left are off Thok (coin or regular drops tomorrow pls). At least for 2H.
Only normal SoO (non-warforged at least) upgrades I have left are off Thok (coin or regular drops tomorrow pls). At least for 2H.
Well, I can say I've killed 2 normal mode bosses now. I wasn't THAT far behind on dps, and I got new boots.
Only thing left for me in LFR now is a trinket. Preferably from siegecrafter. There's cleave ones, but I really don't want that. 538 now. Then cloak questline. Urg.
Only thing left for me in LFR now is a trinket. Preferably from siegecrafter. There's cleave ones, but I really don't want that. 538 now. Then cloak questline. Urg.
Went 5/6 on Celestials loot today:
Warlock got prideful cloak/tier pants
Rogue got gold/prideful ring
Pally got double gold
DK got gold/tier gloves
Priest got gold/tier pants
Hunter got tier gloves/prideful ring
All my RNG luck got taken up from those drops though, since flex 3&4 didn't drop anything for my hunter, and I'm sitting at 7 runestones with only 4 bosses left to go this week.
Warlock got prideful cloak/tier pants
Rogue got gold/prideful ring
Pally got double gold
DK got gold/tier gloves
Priest got gold/tier pants
Hunter got tier gloves/prideful ring
All my RNG luck got taken up from those drops though, since flex 3&4 didn't drop anything for my hunter, and I'm sitting at 7 runestones with only 4 bosses left to go this week.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
In my experience the more control-freakish the raid leader is, the less likely you are to progress. My most effective raiding has always been people who just know what theyre doing but still have fun and dont take it that serious.
It isn't the raid leader. It's the guild leader. All these rules were crafted by her, and the raid leader carries them out, even though the guild leader doesn't run in our raid. That still surprises me...the raid leader doesn't have the freedom to run the run as he feels will work best.
And the raid leaders are another issue entirely. They're just not very good at leading. If we wipe, they'll get damn mad and start saying crap like "stop being bad...play better...this is not how heroic raiders raid" while failing to give feedback that'd help. Nor will they replace people if they're just not pulling their weight.
Take all of that, plus some old-fashioned SOO fatigue, and I'm not raiding till Warlords. I'll work on my Steam backlog in the meantime.
SuperAndroid17
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Reminds me of vanilla raiding...except that was 40 people and a nightmare. Your guild structure sounds terrible though. If you're not having any fun... there's no point.
My guild is 10/14H and we mainly joke/fuck around most of the time.
unknownstranger
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Went 11/14 tonight with no wipes for oncre. Had time to try Blackfuse but nobody likes the trash so we decided to wait. Problem is our raid leader is going to be gone when we normally raid again on Friday, so we rescheduled it to Monday but I'm not sure if everyone can make it.
Interfectum
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I don't think it was so minor internally.
Legendary quest I'll definitely give you....but it's a Legendary. Soooo.....
I'll give you soulbound spirits of harmony. Kind of. It's not hard to grind on level 90 mobs and have them drop.
Rep-grind has been a joke for months. I have a level 66 monk who's Exalted with every MoP faction except Celestials and a Warlock not far behind at 64.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
I mean, there isn't really a difference if its the GM or RL. If anything it's even worse that the GM is making rules when they don't even lead.
Let me guess, they're always telling you thats how top end guilds or the "#1 guild on your server" does it?
That's not how they do it. They raid more relaxed than anyone, theyre just better.
If you put in a ticket and ask, they will see that and MAY credit it back to your account going forward.
Wait, what? How are you getting MoP rep with level 60s?
MoP is the hardest its been for alts since BC, end of story. Cata had the ZG/ZA dungeons for catchup, and then it had the Hour of Twilight heroics where you could be raid-ready in 2-3 hours after hitting 85. I literally hit 85, did those dungeons, and then did 3-4th dps on the Dragon Soul raid that night with an alt. You can't do that in MoP. You have to go through some LFR and get lucky first.
Robin64
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Played an AV last night as Horde and won. We won! Oh what a feeling.
I noticed that I would get 300 bonus Golden Lotus rep for doing a random Northrend dungeon (at 71), so I guess that's how.
I noticed that I would get 300 bonus Golden Lotus rep for doing a random Northrend dungeon (at 71), so I guess that's how.
You can champion a MoP rep if you at least know it at lower levels, but just once per week in a dungeon. Usually if you get your hearth set to the Shrine you can champion at least Golden Lotus and August Celetsials.
Beyond that, I think the rep tokens dropped by Warbringers and Scouts can be used sub-90. Or they could be.
Beyond that, I think the rep tokens dropped by Warbringers and Scouts can be used sub-90. Or they could be.
RoninChaos
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The soulbound spirits is bullshit.
ANd the rep grind might be a joke now, but it wasn't at launch. How do you have your characters rep that high when they aren't even in pandaria? Tokens? Those weren't in the game at mists' launch.
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