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Old? Noticed this on BroadbandReports... Botros.net sports promotional pictures of the accessories, including the Play n Charge kit, the remote, and the USB WiFi adaptor. I didn't hotlink the pictures because I wasn't sure if it'd kill the site, but the link above should take you right to them.
 
So the mute/volume for the headset is on the headset cable now, not on the controller. So does that mean I won't be able to use my Halo 2 headset on the 360 controller? Thought it was great it uses a generic cell plug.. so I figured the 360 controller would use the same standardized plug. I do use the mute and volume control a lot, so it'd be a shame to lose it.
 
dammit, i want pics of part that conncets to the xbox itself (component cables). I still havent seen any info if my xbox monster cables will be compatable with the 360.
 
Does anyone know if there is optical digital out on the 360?
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
Only one proprietary a/v port, like the current XB has. No digital audio out port for now.
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Actually the current XBOX has digital audio out with the HD kit. I am sure the XBOX360 will work the same way.
 
MS is gonna be accessory king this time around...

wireless controller that doesnt even come with the play and charge cable, so you have to buy the cable (with official rechargeable battery) seperately

only 2 front USB, so you basically need 1 or 2 wireless controllers instead of having the choice to get 4 wired ones...

but at least they ship the console with an x360 live headset packed in!!!

and those funky component/composite cables with optical out...
 
The Faceless Master said:
MS is gonna be accessory king this time around...

wireless controller that doesnt even come with the play and charge cable, so you have to buy the cable (with official rechargeable battery) seperately

only 2 front USB, so you basically need 1 or 2 wireless controllers instead of having the choice to get 4 wired ones...

but at least they ship the console with an x360 live headset packed in!!!

and those funky component/composite cables with optical out...
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Yeah, it's good that the headset is packed in. The pricing for Xbox1's headset was ridiculous.


golem said:
a more complete description
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33817539

the comp/svid/vga video outs have optical outs
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IT states that the component cable will be standard and a wireless controler + head phones are all packed in
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From the above link. Wireless controller standard, awesome.
 
wireless controller that doesnt even come with the play and charge cable, so you have to buy the cable (with official rechargeable battery) seperately

only 2 front USB, so you basically need 1 or 2 wireless controllers instead of having the choice to get 4 wired ones...
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plus WiFi adapter (sold separately).

Come on people, where is your anti-multi-tap/we-want-4-controller-ports rage ?

(myself the oddest thing is the controller recharge cable not being included, I refuse to believe such an idiotic thing could be possible).
 
Panajev2001a said:
plus WiFi adapter (sold separately).

Come on people, where is your anti-multi-tap/we-want-4-controller-ports rage ?

(myself the oddest thing is the controller recharge cable not being included, I refuse to believe such an idiotic thing could be possible).
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did you miss the huge threads during E3 where people defended 2 USB ports because they were gonna use wireless anyway...

someone even bragged about how they would buy a big box of batteries from fry's...

and someone even said that the wifi adapter beign seperate was good since it could be upgraded (to .11n i guess?)... it was pretty depressing...

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Pedigree Chum said:
With a 4 wireless controller option I don't care. I do wish the wi-fi adaptor was included with the system...can't win em all I guess. As for the recharge pack being separate, you can also just buy some rechargeable AAA's of your own, they'll work.
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see what i mean?
 
AndreasNystrom said:
Why is composite such a feature?.

Btw. can i use the component in on my 20" monitor?.. i have 5 inputs, vert horiz sync + red green blue.
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because it lets the plebs connect too. and having one cable saves costs.

Of course, those plebs will be confused by the component cables and plug those into their composite in - and then ring the xbox careline..

I think component is different to RBG-HV like on your monitor. But you can definitely get a converter - or just get the VGA cable. Interesting that the VGA cable is 480p/720p/1080i. I wonder if thats designed for flat panels with HD15 inputs rather than VGA monitors. I don't know if all VGA monitors will support flat panel 480p and 720p timings.
 
Panajev2001a said:
plus WiFi adapter (sold separately).

Come on people, where is your anti-multi-tap/we-want-4-controller-ports rage ?

(myself the oddest thing is the controller recharge cable not being included, I refuse to believe such an idiotic thing could be possible).
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With a 4 wireless controller option I don't care. I do wish the wi-fi adaptor was included with the system...can't win em all I guess. As for the recharge pack being separate, you can also just buy some rechargeable AAA's of your own, they'll work.
 
mrklaw said:
because it lets the plebs connect too. and having one cable saves costs.

Of course, those plebs will be confused by the component cables and plug those into their composite in - and then ring the xbox careline..

I think component is different to RBG-HV like on your monitor. But you can definitely get a converter - or just get the VGA cable. Interesting that the VGA cable is 480p/720p/1080i. I wonder if thats designed for flat panels with HD15 inputs rather than VGA monitors. I don't know if all VGA monitors will support flat panel 480p and 720p timings.
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how could the native VGA output be any different from using a Transcoder?
most monitors support them... actually, from what i've read on compatibility, more CRT's do than LCD's
 
The Faceless Master said:
see what i mean?
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:lol

I didn't make a stink about PS2's multi-tap and network adaptor. I won't make a stink about this. They've gotta make money through accessories, its just how it is.
 
So if my monitor supports 1600x1200, thru my VGA, that doesnt mean it will be able to cope with 1080p ?

(i thought it was 1200p then :) *no idea*
 
AndreasNystrom said:
So if my monitor supports 1600x1200, thru my VGA, that doesnt mean it will be able to cope with 1080p ?

(i thought it was 1200p then :) *no idea*
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Yep.

You'll need to check your resolution tables, or just try it out.

You could try and recreate basic 720p via powerstrip or your graphics card settings - 1280x720/60Hz.

1080p isn't quoted on the VGA cable, only 1080i. That may work, but again, you'll need to try with powerstrip or similar.
 
Why can't Microsoft bundle in a brand new Porshe and a weekend getaway to the Bahamas with the Xbox 360? What about the kitchen sink? Does it come with the kitchen sink?
 
sol5377 said:
Why can't Microsoft bundle in a brand new Porshe and a weekend getaway to the Bahamas with the Xbox 360? What about the kitchen sink? Does it come with the kitchen sink?
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well, the rev and ps3 don't come with any of those... but they do come with 4 controller ports and built in wifi... it just comes off as being either unprepared or just plain cheap... and you know i like the xbox ;)
 
The Faceless Master said:
well, the rev and ps3 don't come with any of those... but they do come with 4 controller ports and built in wifi... it just comes off as being either unprepared or just plain cheap... and you know i like the xbox ;)
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I somewhat agree on the 4 controller ports (but come one it supports for wireless controllers!!!). I do agree the wi-fi should be standard, and you know I've made a huge deal out of this, it isn't going to change shit...so I've decided to learn to just accept it.
 
Wait so does this VGA mean I can hook it up to my 1280x1024 LCD monitor and run at 720p?
 
teh_pwn said:
Wait so does this VGA mean I can hook it up to my 1280x1024 LCD monitor and run at 720p?
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Yes, but there might be some issues if your monitor is 4:3 (at least that's what ppl are telling me) like mine :/
 
The Faceless Master said:
well, the rev and ps3 don't come with any of those... but they do come with 4 controller ports and built in wifi... it just comes off as being either unprepared or just plain cheap... and you know i like the xbox ;)
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hahah yeah I know you do, but it's unreasonable to expect them to include everything in there, especially since they're already putting in so much power, a wireless controller and a hard-drive. It has an ethernet port so you could hook it up with a wire or get the add-on adapter (if you don't already have one for Xbox). It's not like the system doesn't support 4 wireless controllers, either. Plus, if you've used a wavebird, you'll know those things last a looooong time before you need to replace the batteries. Just pick up a few packs of Duracell AA's (or AAA's?) for $1 each on the subway :D
 
teh_pwn said:
Wait so does this VGA mean I can hook it up to my 1280x1024 LCD monitor and run at 720p?
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maybe.

download powerstrip and try out the PDP 720p resolutions and timings.

There may be some issues with having a widescreen image on a 4:3 screen. Depends on the monitor basically and how flexible it is.

Luckily my 30" widescreen LCD TV has VGA and component in and is 1280x720 :D

Unfortunately it has shitty contrast, so stuff like gears of war/splinter cell may be difficult to play (SC is already on Xbox1) :(
 
That WiFi adapter better be cheap and have a specific place I can stick it on the X360, like a specifically molded cutout on the system, instead of leaving it floor.
 
Pedigree Chum said:
Yes, but there might be some issues if your monitor is 4:3 (at least that's what ppl are telling me) like mine :/
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Like what? Why should I have more problems with my 4:3 monitor than with my 4:3 tv?
 
jet1911 said:
Like what? Why should I have more problems with my 4:3 monitor than with my 4:3 tv?
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talking about VGA.

TVs will have variable aspect ratios, so Xbox 360 will need to allow for that - probably in the dashboard. So if you have a 4:3 TV it letterboxes the output for you.

Maybe (speculation) it will do the same for VGA, so you can play it letterboxed on a 4:3 VGA monitor. If that happens then it should work on any VGA monitor - 1280x1024. But if its only outputting WXGA 1280x720, then you'll need a monitor that supports it, or a flat panel TV.
 
Maybe (speculation) it will do the same for VGA, so you can play it letterboxed on a 4:3 VGA monitor. If that happens then it should work on any VGA monitor - 1280x1024. But if its only outputting WXGA 1280x720, then you'll need a monitor that supports it, or a flat panel TV.
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So an in-dash option would solve this problem? I hope MS does that.
 
TekunoRobby said:
That WiFi adapter better be cheap and have a specific place I can stick it on the X360, like a specifically molded cutout on the system, instead of leaving it floor.
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It does have a specific place on the X360, it sits flush with the system.
 
Pedigree Chum said:
So an in-dash option would solve this problem? I hope MS does that.
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It'll certainly have a 16:9/4:3 setting like xbox 1/DVD players. I'm assuming it'll letterbox games if you have a 4:3 display (if they are mandating all games be widescreen HD) - otherwise you'll lose the sides of the image.

VGA letterbox depends on what the target it - VGA enabled TVs (will be widescreen therefore just output WXGA signal), or VGA monitors (need 4:3 solution)
 
mrklaw said:
talking about VGA.

TVs will have variable aspect ratios, so Xbox 360 will need to allow for that - probably in the dashboard. So if you have a 4:3 TV it letterboxes the output for you.
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Yeah. Well Xbox has that option now. The only difference being that all games are now required to have 16:9 as well. I don't think games are going to be only 16:9
 
Games will be different than movies though. If a developer is required to do the game in 16:9, then all gamers will have to play the game in 16:9, even if you only have a 4:3 set. It's not like movies where you can just cut and edit the movie to make it 4:3.

All 4:3 TV owners will be playing there 360 games in letterbox. There might be an option in the dashboard to expand the image to fit a 4:3 set, but you'll be missing key elements of the game. Maybe a HUD is off the screen or an enemy is kicking your ass and you can't see him.
 
jedimike said:
Games will be different than movies though. If a developer is required to do the game in 16:9, then all gamers will have to play the game in 16:9, even if you only have a 4:3 set. It's not like movies where you can just cut and edit the movie to make it 4:3.

All 4:3 TV owners will be playing there 360 games in letterbox. There might be an option in the dashboard to expand the image to fit a 4:3 set, but you'll be missing key elements of the game. Maybe a HUD is off the screen or an enemy is kicking your ass and you can't see him.
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Actually, it's more likely that most (if not all) developers will put support for 4:3 displays in their games so the hud and surroundings show up in full screen mode rather than letterboxed. Perhaps we'll see a slight letterbox approach, a la RE4 in most games played on 4:3 TV's.
 
AndreasNystrom said:
So if my monitor supports 1600x1200, thru my VGA, that doesnt mean it will be able to cope with 1080p ?

(i thought it was 1200p then :) *no idea*
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No. 1080p is 1920x1080. Your monitor (CRT?) won't go that high.

Just be happy with 1280x720 (720p). 1080p will skip next generation for games, no matter how much Kutaragi spins it (not enough bandwidth in G70 or RSX for that kind of resolution + all the effects).
 
jedimike said:
Games will be different than movies though. If a developer is required to do the game in 16:9, then all gamers will have to play the game in 16:9, even if you only have a 4:3 set. It's not like movies where you can just cut and edit the movie to make it 4:3.

All 4:3 TV owners will be playing there 360 games in letterbox. There might be an option in the dashboard to expand the image to fit a 4:3 set, but you'll be missing key elements of the game. Maybe a HUD is off the screen or an enemy is kicking your ass and you can't see him.
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We have games that look equally good in 16:9 and 4:3... Put DOA3 in either mode to see what I mean.

For instance when I put DOA in 16:9 on a 4:3 TV the image looks stretched vertically.(obviously on a 16:9 set it looks correct) I don't see why this method will change drastically on X360.
 
jedimike said:
All 4:3 TV owners will be playing there 360 games in letterbox. There might be an option in the dashboard to expand the image to fit a 4:3 set, but you'll be missing key elements of the game. Maybe a HUD is off the screen or an enemy is kicking your ass and you can't see him.
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For some reason I think that's very far from being true, the game should support 4:3 natively no matter how much they want to pimp the "hd era",
 
That and the fact in reality it's just a difference in resolution, and that's damn easy to implement (unless it's 2D...bit more tricky there)
 
mrklaw said:
talking about VGA.

TVs will have variable aspect ratios, so Xbox 360 will need to allow for that - probably in the dashboard. So if you have a 4:3 TV it letterboxes the output for you.

Maybe (speculation) it will do the same for VGA, so you can play it letterboxed on a 4:3 VGA monitor. If that happens then it should work on any VGA monitor - 1280x1024. But if its only outputting WXGA 1280x720, then you'll need a monitor that supports it, or a flat panel TV.
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Ok, thanks for the explanation. :)
 
mrklaw said:
component + Composite cables included inbox. MS are serious about HD then...
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Why no DVI/HDMI cables?
 
Ok, so the back of the X360 has the propietary plug, but it comes with Component cables that clearly have no option for optical out. Does this mean that it comes with something similar to the HD box that was sold seperately this gen? I'm actually interested in the VGA cable but since my projector does 540p (1/2 HD) I'm not exactly sure how that would work.
 
FiRez said:
For some reason I think that's very far from being true, the game should support 4:3 natively no matter how much they want to pimp the "hd era",
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Of course it will support 4:3 sets, but you will have 3 options...

A: best scenario - View the game in letterbox. You'll have black bars, but you will see the whole game.

B: 2nd best - stretched letterbox. Same as letterbox, but the image is streched to fill the gaps where the bars would normally be. You get all the game, but characters will look tall.

C: worst - zoomed. This would be where the outer edges of the game are cut to fit on your screen. You won't have any bars and you'll have the proper sizes, but you'll be missing parts of the game.

Developers are not going to make two versions of the same game. One for 4:3 owners and one for 16:9 owners. Extra content has to be added to the game for 16:9. If MS is forcing this on developers, the above three choices are your only options.
 
olubode said:
Why no DVI/HDMI cables?
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Because the only common denominator for HDTV sets (that are not PC monitors in disguise) are progressive component inputs. Some sets will have DVI, other will have HDMI, but all the HDTVs sets sold thus far have progressive component.

MS basically wants to cover all the HDTVs ever sold out of the box.
 
jedimike said:
Of course it will support 4:3 sets, but you will have 3 options...

A: best scenario - View the game in letterbox. You'll have black bars, but you will see the whole game.

B: 2nd best - stretched letterbox. Same as letterbox, but the image is streched to fill the gaps where the bars would normally be. You get all the game, but characters will look tall.

C: worst - zoomed. This would be where the outer edges of the game are cut to fit on your screen. You won't have any bars and you'll have the proper sizes, but you'll be missing parts of the game.

Developers are not going to make two versions of the same game. One for 4:3 owners and one for 16:9 owners. Extra content has to be added to the game for 16:9. If MS is forcing this on developers, the above three choices are your only options.
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from bizarre's forums:
one of the developers said:

There are several options for developers... I believe one path is to let the all-powerful hardware convert to a letterbox image for you, or the other option is for the developers to specifically cater for 4:3... I believe at this time we are specifically catering for 4:3...
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We support both... as does the hardware if you so choose to let it too... no one will be forced to buy a new TV... yet at the same time, a fancy new HDTV will look absolutely drop-dead gorgeous.
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Anyway I want a WIRELESS Headset!
 
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