Xbox Full Screen Experience Coming to PC; November 21 on Windows Handhelds
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Mister Wolf
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Legion Go S Results:
Black Myth Wukon
Windows - 56
FSE - 57
Cyberpunk 2077
Windows - 32.91
FSE - 33.04
Doom Dark Ages (coming)
Windows - 46.15
FSE-47.28
Are you running at maximum TDP?
Topher
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No. 20 Watts. I'll try maxing out TDP in Cyberpunk and see what it does.
Timberwolf25
Member
miniscule improvement, but that makes more sense than for it to be worse at leastLegion Go S Results:
Black Myth Wukon
Windows - 56
FSE - 57
Cyberpunk 2077
Windows - 32.91
FSE - 33.04
Doom Dark Ages (coming)
Windows - 46.15
FSE-47.28
Topher
Identifies as young
Max wattage had a negative effect in this case, but you can run these benchmarks 10 different times and get 10 slightly different results. Overall, I'd say there is a minimal gain to be had from FSE at this point
FSE 34.58
Windows - 34.95
Mister Wolf
Member
Max wattage had a negative effect in this case, but you can run these benchmarks 10 different times and get 10 slightly different results. Overall, I'd say there is a minimal gain to be had from FSE at this point
FSE 34.58
Windows - 34.95
I tried it today with Baldurs Gate 3 maxed out on the Xbox ROG Ally X vs Desktop. No noteworthy difference, its really just a matter of convenience. I dont need it since im now Desktop PC gaming(I dont use Big Picture Mode neither) but when I had my PC in the living room I definitely would prefer FSE.
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Topher
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Yeah absolutely. Maybe a few games will be able to take advantage of that extra freed up RAM, but overall this is just a better interface for TV and handheld gaming and you are able to see where they will be taking the UI with Xbox Magnus in the future.
Overall, I'd say it is very positive for Windows gaming.
Mister Wolf
Member
If the Xbox ROG didnt have FSE it never would have been a consideration. Thats the reason I initially bought the Lenovo SteamOS.
Topher
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FSE was going to be a thing either way in anticipation of Magnus. That's a natural first step to combine console and PC for the living room. Worked out well that they were able to pilot it with Rog Ally.
Mister Wolf
Member
I have no proof. But I believe the Steam announcements caused them to escalate their timeline of bringing it to Desktop.
DarkShadowXI
Member
Seems plausible, for sure. Let's get people talking about it now, before the Steam Machine is released and in people's hands.
The announcement must have caught them by surprise.
Mister Wolf
Member
One thing that annoyed me was finding out that you cannot easily change the Steam Overlay button in the settings. I wanted to put it on one of the back paddles since the Xbox button is for FSE overlay but Steam will not allow you.
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Topher
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Very well could be, yeah
FalconPunch
Member
Very useful data. If that's the best they could do at Microsoft, I'm not sure they should even bother. Anyway, what's the battery life of the Legion go s like? I was thinking of picking one up.Legion Go S Results:
Black Myth Wukon
Windows - 56
FSE - 57
Cyberpunk 2077
Windows - 32.91
FSE - 33.04
Doom Dark Ages (coming)
Windows - 46.15
FSE-47.28
Topher
Identifies as young
It's ok. About an hour and a half at 30w, but I never run the power that high. I'm using around 15w and I'll get 2-3 hours
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
? Think that's just the reality of what the hardware can do. I know people talk about bloat etc but its generally an over exaggeration.
Mister Wolf
Member
And honestly wouldn't getting better performance in games come down to them improving DirectX?
kevboard
Member
the ROG Ally (non X) is probably profiting more from this than most systems. its biggest issue was always the memory size, which is why the X added more and usually outperforms it in memory hungry titles.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
What tool did you use, if you don't mind sharing?
Topher
Identifies as young
Sure. here is the Github page:
GitHub - 8bit2qubit/XboxFullScreenExperienceTool: A one-click GUI tool to safely enable the hidden Xbox full screen gaming experience on Windows 11.
A one-click GUI tool to safely enable the hidden Xbox full screen gaming experience on Windows 11. - 8bit2qubit/XboxFullScreenExperienceTool
github.com
The download is the very bottom of this page:
Release Xbox Full Screen Experience Tool v0.0.14 · 8bit2qubit/XboxFullScreenExperienceTool
❤️ 支持這個專案 (Support This Project) 如果您覺得這個工具對您有幫助，您的支持會是我持續維護與開發更多開源專案的莫大動力！ If you find this tool helpful, your support would be a great motivation for me to continue maintaining and developing more...
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I usd the full rather than lite, but I don't really know the difference. lol
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Sure. here is the Github page:
GitHub - 8bit2qubit/XboxFullScreenExperienceTool: A one-click GUI tool to safely enable the hidden Xbox full screen gaming experience on Windows 11.
A one-click GUI tool to safely enable the hidden Xbox full screen gaming experience on Windows 11. - 8bit2qubit/XboxFullScreenExperienceTool
The download is the very bottom of this page:
Release Xbox Full Screen Experience Tool v0.0.14 · 8bit2qubit/XboxFullScreenExperienceTool
❤️ 支持這個專案 (Support This Project) 如果您覺得這個工具對您有幫助，您的支持會是我持續維護與開發更多開源專案的莫大動力！ If you find this tool helpful, your support would be a great motivation for me to continue maintaining and developing more...
I usd the full rather than lite, but I don't really know the difference. lol
Thank you, most appreciated!
Topher
Identifies as young
That makes sense. The Legion Go S has 32GB so that is why I'm seeing little difference in FSE.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Had a bit of a play around.
Enjoy launching into the Xbox app, however, I had to enter my passcode which couldn't be done without the use of a keyboard, which defeats the purpose somewhat. Hopefully this is just due to it being in Beta as they'd want to fix that.
Launching 3rd party games worked relatively seamlessly for the most part, apart from the occasional pop up from Steam when it loaded as well as a bit of launcher inception with Games like BG3, which had to open Steam, then the Larian launcher. The Larian launcher is also annoying as fuck which doesn't help and also required me to use the mouse. Launching AW2 from Epic worked well and launched straight into the game which was nice.
Haven't noticed any performance differences, but haven't played too long using it.
All in all, I quite like it. Hopefully they can fix up the passcode login / have an onscreen keyboard and will be useful for an upcoming living room build I'm doing.
Enjoy launching into the Xbox app, however, I had to enter my passcode which couldn't be done without the use of a keyboard, which defeats the purpose somewhat. Hopefully this is just due to it being in Beta as they'd want to fix that.
Launching 3rd party games worked relatively seamlessly for the most part, apart from the occasional pop up from Steam when it loaded as well as a bit of launcher inception with Games like BG3, which had to open Steam, then the Larian launcher. The Larian launcher is also annoying as fuck which doesn't help and also required me to use the mouse. Launching AW2 from Epic worked well and launched straight into the game which was nice.
Haven't noticed any performance differences, but haven't played too long using it.
All in all, I quite like it. Hopefully they can fix up the passcode login / have an onscreen keyboard and will be useful for an upcoming living room build I'm doing.
Soodanim
Member
I haven't played BG3, but you might find that you can do a bit of renaming to swap the launcher and the main game and skip the launcher. Or perhaps there's a launch argument to be set in Steam. Have you checked PCGW?
Radical_3d
Member
Newell can't save PC gaming soon enough.Legion Go S Results:
Black Myth Wukon
Windows - 56
FSE - 57
Cyberpunk 2077
Windows - 32.91
FSE - 33.04
Doom Dark Ages (coming)
Windows - 46.15
FSE-47.28
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Haven't done any renaming etc. Just trying it 'out of the box'.
12Dannu123
Member
This one if the known issues.
Known issues
[Xbox full screen experience for PC]
- [NEW] The virtual keyboard is not shown for controller users on devices without a touch screen. Please use the physical keyboard as a workaround for now.
- [NEW] Some apps may behave unexpectedly when using FSE, particularly those that expect to be locked to a given size or launch additional windows.
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You forget you already announced back in 2022 that you've moved to Linux?
Multiple times, too. Like here
Then have been active in Linux threads for a while now, as an active user?
This is the off-putting Linux zealotry that
Mister Wolf
was talking about. Lies, FUD, Misinformation etc.
Mister Wolf
Member
You forget you already announced back in 2022 that you've moved to Linux?
Multiple times, too. Like here
Then have been active in Linux threads for a while now, as an active user?
This is the off-putting Linux zealotry that
They'll never truly leave as they stand to lose too much being Linux exclusive.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
There you go, I could have just read the notes below lo!l Good to know they're aware of those issues though. Hopefully they get resolved soon as it's a good way to get a 'console' experience with access to lots of PC games / libraries.
Xaeroxcore666
Member
Probably the same question: why Steam machine exist if you can have your Steam Library on PC? MS will aim to a niche segment of market, as Valve does with the Steam Machine...Also they could deliver a poweful system in a box, for a price more competitive than an equivalent mid or high end traditional gaming PC.
Durin
Member
I like some of what I see with the full screen UI experience, but man Microsoft needs to improve their own actual UI for their storefront. It's just rows of boxes, some missing cover art, and just poor sorting/categories to find stuff if you want to shop. Their own ecosystem makes it hard to discover things, and wanna spend money there.
Also think they really need to expand their GameInput API to replicate features like Steam Input, where you can set profiles or actions sets, so gamepad buttons can act as keystrokes and sticks as a virtual mouse. That way if launching any PC game fails or hits a launcher where I need to use a mouse to navigate, I can just have my pad complete the action to get into the game. I don't see any way to actually make the full-screen experience work in a living room without this, and if game pass titles through the Xbox app don't play nice with Steam Input in my experience.
Also think they really need to expand their GameInput API to replicate features like Steam Input, where you can set profiles or actions sets, so gamepad buttons can act as keystrokes and sticks as a virtual mouse. That way if launching any PC game fails or hits a launcher where I need to use a mouse to navigate, I can just have my pad complete the action to get into the game. I don't see any way to actually make the full-screen experience work in a living room without this, and if game pass titles through the Xbox app don't play nice with Steam Input in my experience.
Kacho
Gold Member
The never-ending posturing is wackYou forget you already announced back in 2022 that you've moved to Linux?
Multiple times, too. Like here
Then have been active in Linux threads for a while now, as an active user?
This is the off-putting Linux zealotry that
Topher
Identifies as young
You forget you already announced back in 2022 that you've moved to Linux?
Multiple times, too. Like here
Then have been active in Linux threads for a while now, as an active user?
This is the off-putting Linux zealotry that
Zealotry? What is with these fringe characterizations lately? Saw some calling Steam users "cultists". Just bizarre.
Nonehxc
Member
Deodorants!
You think there's nothing iffy about switching full time to Linux since 2022, then showing up in multiple threads about Windows to go "Windows 11 sucks, I can't take it anymore…I'm going to switch to Linux" in 2025?
I did not coin that term, anyway. 'Linux Zealotry' and 'open source zealotry' are well used terms. Google it?
Come On Tars
Member
Legion Go S Results:
Black Myth Wukon
Windows - 56
FSE - 57
Cyberpunk 2077
Windows - 32.91
FSE - 33.04
Doom Dark Ages (coming)
Windows - 46.15
FSE-47.28
Topher
Identifies as young
I'd say there is a Grand Canyon between "iffy" and "zealotry". Zealotry is usually not just one guy contradicting himself either.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Full screen experience has so been underwhelming as fuck on handhelds.
They have a LONG way to go to make Windows gaming friendly like SteamOS.
I'd give MS praise for trying but there is simply no possible way they could make a dedicated gaming OS that wouldn't be fucked up with telemetry ads and bloat.
Mister Wolf
Member
I've gained more using FSE on my ROG ALLY than I did with SteamOS on my Lenovo.