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Xbox is ending the Xbox Ambassador Program

CLW

CLW

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Poor Colt

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Astray

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ap_puff said:
I didn't really pay attention to that fight, what happened?
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All I know about it is that Microsoft was backing HD DVD (a Toshiba-made standard) vs Blu-ray, which was made by Sony.

But there's probably more to this story than I know about.
 
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Three

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Unknown Soldier said:
People who know MS history knows that when the shill programs are ending, that means it's over. They just haven't announced it yet
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I think people are reading that wrong. It's over because in 2024 and 2025 some European countries (spain and france) and US states are making it illegal for influencers to advertise things on the downlow. Now they might need written contracts for free stuff and opinions bought for money. The timing of this Ambassador program ending is no coincidence. The rats would have started getting exposed.

Recently there has been a crackdown on this practice and I assume it won't be long until there is a unified European law.
 
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bender

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ap_puff said:
I don't mean the fact that Microsoft has astroturfers, everyone knows that. I mean has anyone seen an example where all the marketing goes dark and then they pull the plug
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That's probably true for a lot of floundering products. I wouldn't read too much into in this particular situation even if I don't personally believe the Xbox brand is long for this world.
 
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ap_puff said:
I don't mean the fact that Microsoft has astroturfers, everyone knows that. I mean has anyone seen an example where all the marketing goes dark and then they pull the plug
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I just gave you that example

It happened in 2006

Very long story but 2006 was before social media and internet forums were a lot more important than they are now. There was one called AVS Forum that a lot of people into home theater shit went to. MS astroturfed it very heavily, even had one of their corporate VP's there posting and shilling for HD DVD. In the end HD DVD lost and suddenly all the shill accounts went silent one day and the MS VP vanished. The End
 
XXL

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cireza said:
What even is this thing ?
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cireza said:
With a month of Gamepass, you can play :
A Plague Tale
Alien Isolation
Code Vein
Darkest Dungeon
Dead Cells
Doom
Dragon Ball FighterZ
Dragon Quest XI
FF X
FF XII
FF XIII
FF XIII-2
Halo Infinite
Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth
Lonely Mountain Downhill
Myst
New Super Lucky Tale
Nier Automata
Octopath Traveler
Scarlet Nexus
Streets of Rage 4
Subnautica
The Forgotten City
Xeno Crisis
All Yakuza games

And that's simply a quick list of games that got my interest. Don't let the opportunity to play a gem like The Forgotten City pass.
You don't have to play only exclusive games to enjoy something. Do you still know how to enjoy a game ?

Xbox also has Phantasy Star Online 2 and New Genesis (free to play)
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cireza said:
Want direct sales ? Make a better game maybe ? I bought several games after discovering them on Game Pass, so this situation also exists and leads to sales that would have not happened without the service.
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cireza said:
This is wrong to begin with. And this a minority as 85% of the revenue comes the rest, so people buying games.


Cannibalizes ? Come on. They said that there was a decline in sales twelve months after a game was put in Game Pass. This is, again, a small fact being turned into something huge in order to mislead people.

This narrative of Xbox players not buying games is utterly ridiculous.
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cireza said:
Xbox players also buy games physically or digitally, like every other players in the world you know. Might come as a surprise for some of you.

But I agree that Larian could put the game in Game Pass for free (for MS) to apologize for their poor work at porting the game to Xbox.
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It means
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Best of luck on your new endeavors.

Try to at least get a reference....
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Pantz

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I think? I joined them.
They used to send me surveys and no matter the topic I would ask them to make games with jiggle physics.
They stopped sending me surveys after a while.
 
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KINGMOKU said:
Are you sure? You want a fight sparky?

Do me a favor, fire up COD, and warzone, turn off the cross platform settings in said settings, and let me know next week when you get a game. (Not to mention the annoying pop ups)

Microsoft did this on purpose, because the "brand" is now not a console, but an "idea". They have a vested interest in forcing console players to play with PC players. They could have, right in the games menus, put an option, just like on the PS. They did not.

I don't care if some other games allow you to do it or not. All games should have that option, as it's the reason I bought a console, to play with other console owners. If some people want to get shot through 5 buildings from some PC asshat flying around in the sky, cool. Not me.
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I just booted warzone and a regular cod lobby with all my cross-play settings off.
Didnt have any issues. What region are you playing in? My warzone lobby took like 30s more in matchmaking but i loaded into a game just fine. Same with MW3 Mp?

i get your complaints about pc cheaters and what not, but the option menu's are identical for COD are they not?-

I dont get the your praise for playstation here? you have to turn of cross-play on a game by game basis vs just turning off crossplay for all titles on your xbox in general? how is the xbox one not exactly what you are looking for?
 
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Astray said:
This is basically a complete defeat of the astroturfing MS has been doing since who knows when. Shills are malding over the loss of their freebies.

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I think there's still clearly a platinum tier of "ambassador" that does/did get a bunch of real value compensation that of course was never divulged when they did their online shilling, an FTC violation I believe. Basically the ones that could really get Phil's plums on their gums.
 
cireza

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XXL said:
It means
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Best of luck on your new endeavors.

Try to at least get a reference....
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Yes, and ?

Great job at skipping every single post where I am arguing against Xbox and their shitty practices.

cireza said:
Are you aware that you can buy games normally on Xbox and that not everything is about Game Pass ? How is this even related to the topic ?
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cireza said:
What matters to me is that they still make consoles and allow for physical games. Never had much interest for Game Pass and first party games.
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cireza said:
Stop putting your games in Game Pass maybe ? Just sayin.

Of course not ! Because we want that Game Pass money from MS as well as the sales !
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cireza said:
If people are dumb enough to pay, what can we do ? They put their money where they think there is (perceived) value.

If this change in Game Pass leads to a 200% increase, then it will be an excellent move from a business perspective for Microsoft.
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cireza said:
If only you stopped putting good in-house games in Game Pass day-one, maybe we wouldn't be right now in a situation where Xbox is basically killing itself by announcing games on every platform under the sun to try to make a profit somewhere else.

Looking back, I think we can blame MS for bad communication tenths of times. However they definitely nailed the communication about how they are sending Xbox to its death, it couldn't be clearer. Good job.
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cireza said:
GHG GHG bro you put a lol to the first post but actually it's a pretty good watch (yeah I watched the video lol). Makes a decent summary of the situation MS are in.

After watching it I can say that MS consoles are failing, Game Pass is failing, MS don't have good content but Sony/Nintendo have, and cloud is a shit experience. Pretty accurate if you ask me.
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Usual bad faith from desperate people. Get a life, you have better ways to spend your time.
 
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DAHGAMING

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I dont care if they dont pay me, I was never init for the money, im Xbox for the passion, the love of the brand, they will have to kill me, I feel like im on the edge of being branded an Xbox terroist, I am willing to become a matyr for them, if Phil says the word it is done.
 
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DAHGAMING said:
I dont care if they dont pay me, I was never init for the money, im Xbox for the passion, the love of the brand, they will have to kill me, I feel like im on the edge of being branded an Xbox terroist, I am willing to become a matyr for them, if Phil says the word it is done.
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