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Xbox Live wins an Emmy...

Look at all the haters. Makes this announcement even more sweet.

I do think Sony should be rewarded for EyeToy, not an emmy but some sort of other high profile award.
 
The emmys dont do anything about foreigners, right?

It explains why Sony or Nintendo'll never win, as will none of the anime movies or shows that CAN and DOES kick the crap out of OUR cartoons of today...
 
I like how there are a few people going "WTG MS! Yeah we did it!".
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Are there any real gaming awards that XBL has won that you guys can brag about? We don't even know the qualifications for this award and who they beat out to get it (Kids Next Door?).

Hate.hate.hate.hate.hate..
 
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
The nominees for Outstanding Achievement in Advanced Media Technology for the Enhancement of Original Television Content are:
- The DirectTV Sports Mix - DirecTV
- TOURCast – PGATour.com
- 2005 TV Land Awards, All Access Pass – TV Land, Nick at Nite and Zetools

The nominees for Outstanding Achievement in Advanced Media Technology for the Non-Synchronous Enhancement of Original Television Content are:
- Codename: Kids Next Door – Operation: B.E.S.T. – Cartoon Network
- The DirecTV Interactive Service - DirecTV
- ImageGuide/www.living.com – EAT.tv, LLC/Scripps Networks
- Free On Demand - Comcast

The nominees for Outstanding Achievement in Advanced Media Technology for the Creation of Non-Traditional Programs or Platforms are:
- Moxi Media Center: New Features for 2005 - Digeo
- NewTek TriCaster – NewTek
- Election 2004 Coverage – Echostar/DISH Network

... but all those things deal with television broadcasting. Xbox live doesn't. The Sega Channel could qualify for an Emmy, but how does a service which has no connection to television broadcasting qualify?

Side note: are DVD productions capable of winning Emmys?

Edit: Ok, this isn't exactly an edit, but I did cull this info from the Emmy.org info page on "How to join"...
Membership in the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences is open to those persons who are or who have been actively engaged in activities related to the production or distribution of audio visual works for national exhibition by means of telecommunications.

Here's the sticky point... in as much as SOME sort of audio/video work is transferred via telecommunications on Xbox live, it vaguely fits into the scope of the ATAS, it seems.

The ATAS has an Interactive Media subgroup, which is for:
Persons involved in development, production, maintenance and distribution of "interactive programming," i.e., programming [content] which enables the viewer to both view and simultaneously manipulate, alter, interact with or affect the content by means of remote delivery services, such as but not limited to on-line telephonic, cable, Internet or other high speed delivery systems which are generally available to U.S. homes through viewing devices such as television sets or computers.

In other words, if data is sent via telephone line or broadband to your game system, it qualifies as Interactive Media for the ATAS. Granted, most of their interactive media refers more to on-screen programming and movie ordering, but...
 
DavidDayton said:
In other words, if data is sent via telephone line or broadband to your game system, it qualifies as Interactive Media for the ATAS. Granted, most of their interactive media refers more to on-screen programming and movie ordering, but...


Well like I said, 360's version of Live does seem to be a more integrated experience whether you're playing games or just watching television or movies. The marketplace, chat, media extender, downloadable demos and trailers, etc. all seem to fit under their guidelines of interactive media but recieveing an award for a service that hasn't even hit the market yet seems a little....weird. If it's just for the current XBL setup then I don't agree that it deserves to be nominated.

But does anyone here really fucking care if they win or not? It's the god damn emmys for christ's sake.
 
I hear Halo 2 will be picking up the award for best sequel to a first person shooter videogame based around the heroic battles of a super soldier on or nearby giant alien contructs.
 
Haters indeed.

It's basically mostly sour grapes from what I can tell.

Bartman3010 said:
The emmys dont do anything about foreigners, right?

It explains why Sony or Nintendo'll never win, as will none of the anime movies or shows that CAN and DOES kick the crap out of OUR cartoons of today...

Anime? :lol

IYO.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Haters indeed.

It's basically mostly sour grapes from what I can tell.

I'm not going to pussyfoot around the issue. I take objection to the fact that it smacks of MS greasing palms to buy themselves an Emmy for promotional purposes, just in time for the 360 launch. If you want to write anyone who calls foul over that a 'hater' and dismiss their objections as 'sour grapes', knock yourself out. Just bear in mind that I'd be just as quick to pitch a bitch if Sony or Nintendo looked like they were doing something this shady to promote their consoles--it's the principle of the thing that bothers me here.
 
Tellaerin said:
I'm not going to pussyfoot around the issue. I take objection to the fact that it smacks of MS greasing palms to buy themselves an Emmy for promotional purposes, just in time for the 360 launch. If you want to write anyone who calls foul over that a 'hater' and dismiss their objections as 'sour grapes', knock yourself out. Just bear in mind that I'd be just as quick to pitch a bitch if Sony or Nintendo looked like they were doing something this shady to promote their consoles--it's the principle of the thing that bothers me here.

This is all just pure speculation and you have no way of proving that MS greased anyone's palms.

Are you sure it's just not your bias that is causing you to feel the way you do? I think that's the basis for many of the negative posts about this award.

Personally, I really don't give a shit about Emmy awards. This award means nothing to me. I like Xbox live and whether it gets an award or not doesn't matter to me. Why it matters to the haters is the real mystery.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
This is all just pure speculation and you have no way of proving that MS greased anyone's palms.

Of course I don't. I doubt anyone ever will, either, even if (especially if!) that is in fact the case. (Do you expect J Allard to accept his statuette and announce, 'Good job, your check's in the mail' on national television? Me neither. :p) But the Emmys are known as television awards, not videogame/interactive entertainment awards. XBL (and videogames in general) are competing with TV for viewership (playership?) nowadays, and from what I gather, it's a big stretch for XBL to even qualify under the existing rules. Those points, coupled with the convenient timing as MS ramps up to the 360 launch, leaves me with the lingering suspicion that 'incentives' were involved.

Dr_Cogent said:
Are you sure it's just not your bias that is causing you to feel the way you do? I think that's the basis for many of the negative posts about this award.

About the only bias at work here is my personal bias against corruption. The idea that it might be possible for a company with sufficient financial resources to effectively buy themselves an Emmy for something that's (at best) peripherally TV-related doesn't sit well with me at all. If the award was being issued by a more relevant body (the AIAS, Popular Science magazine, whatever, just so long as it's an organization you'd reasonably expect to hand out awards for something related to gaming or interactive entertainment), I wouldn't suspect something was amiss.

Dr_Cogent said:
Personally, I really don't give a shit about Emmy awards. This award means nothing to me. I like Xbox live and whether it gets an award or not doesn't matter to me. Why it matters to the haters is the real mystery.

I think people are up in arms over the idea that MS might have bought themselves an award like an Emmy rather than having earned it legitimately. That's the sort of thing that could make a 'hater' out of anyone, except possibly fanboys who are willing to give their favorite company a free pass on shady dealings as long as it's helping sales. :p
 
Tellaerin said:
About the only bias at work here is my personal bias against corruption.

Guess you better move to another planet then. Corruption through corporations/capitalism is the norm, not the exception.

Sony isn't above it. Nintendo isn't above it. No company is. I think you are getting upset over something that isn't important at all.

Sony has done underhanded things. Nintendo has. MS has. Get over it. It's not ever going to change. The only thing you can do is vote with your dollars and not buy from the corp that you are unhappy about.
 
Chi-Town said:
Actually, the Emmys are giving 3 gaming related awards this year.

http://www.emmyonline.org/emmy/advanced_media_winners_release_2005.html

Development and Impact in 8-Bit Consoles - Atari Inc. - Atari 2600
Development and Impact in Polygon Consoles - Sony (PS1)
Development of Multiplayer Console Technology - Microsoft (XBOX Live)

So do people believe that Atari and Sony bought their awards too?

Heh, those seem more like throwaway 'lifetime achievement' awards to establish context than anything. Most influential 8-bit console, nothing for the 16-bit era, most influential polygon console, and only one contemporary award, which conveniently targets only online multiplayer technology? That not only guarantees XBL is a shoe-in for the category, but in context, effectively sends out the message that it's as important an achievement for videogames as the 2600 and the Playstation were. (Which I think is debatable, though I'm sure XBL fans will argue otherwise - either way, though, you can't deny the impact of the message this sends out from a promotional perspective.)
 
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