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Xenoblade Chronicles |OT| Man, what a bunch of jokers.
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Agreed. It has some very unexpected twists that are not asspulls and make perfect sense in the end. And that's really something the three authors can be proud of.Fritz said:
It's really interesting reading the Iwata Asks regarding the writing, by the way. Having three authors with very different backgrounds working on a single script might sound like a recipice for disaster, but they managed to create something that combines the strengths of all three, not their weaknesses. You have Takahashi and his love for abstract stuff and dead German philosophers, that GaoGaiGar Final, Banner of the Stars and Infinite Ryvius author (Takeda I believe), and Yurie Hattori who previously worked on Fire Emblem and Style Savvy to add a more logical and feminine touch. It worked. And that's really impressive.
TheExodu5 said:I'm actually using another piece for Reyn right now. I found it off a regular enemy in those caves. It seems ridiculously good for this point in the game. I hope I can find the matching set, because it looks pretty sweet too.
edit: actually, it appears he's missing part of his shoulders with this armor on, hah.
The game doesn't look this good on the wii. I don't think we should be posting these pics, as it will misrepresent the game to newcomers... just a thought.
I wish the game looked like this on my HDTV ;-;
JumpingTheGun
Banned
Question regarding a Colony 6 sidequest:
For "What Is Love?" the quest for Ewan, where can I find the Nopon merchant and a "haughty young Homs girl"? Are they characters that appear after Colony 6 is reconstructed or are they in another location?
slaughterking
Member
I'm not sure where exactly they were but they should be very close to theJumpingTheGun said:
Reconstruction HQ
JumpingTheGun
Banned
oh awesome thank you.
edit: we really need to start making a list of
edit: we really need to start making a list of
what the best presents are to give to each character.
Windom Earle
Member
This game is starting to reach FFVII levels of enjoyment for me. After 40 hours I'm tempted to agree that it belongs to the best JRPGs ever made.
And it's so damn relaxing. Just dive into the world and forget the everyday stress. Frontier Village <3.
And it's so damn relaxing. Just dive into the world and forget the everyday stress. Frontier Village <3.
Fritz said:
don't get me wrong, the game is pretty but... If you look at something like Xillia or FFXIII... I don't know yourself by it depresses me.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game and I think it is great. But it is an example of Nintendo missing the point 5/6 years ago when they were poo-pooing on HDTVs.
MatthewB92
Member
Spoiler for
*Has to do with a quest.
valak mountain.
Where is antol den?
JumpingTheGun said:
Shulk - Sirius Anemone, Pyro lizard, Knocking Fly,Mystic Shining Beetle,Blue Chain, Winding Wheel
Reyne - - Flavored Cabbage, Shin Newt, Yellowcat, Black Frog, Giant Hornet, White Night Rod
Sharla
Dunban
Don't know about the ones for other characters yet.
slaughterking
Member
Yeah, except that Xillia of all games is actually not proving your point.polg said:
Nope, still looks amazing. In fact, that's the one thing I worry about regarding their next game. SQEX couldn't be arsed to do towns, Ninokuni PS3 is copypasta level design, and Tales of is... Tales of. Xilia is a Wii game, less detailed and less interesting than Xenoblade, in HD.polg said:
JumpingTheGun
Banned
Gvaz said:
Ive only found a couple of them so Im assuming theyre extremely rare, but I found mine around
Hopes Farm at night whoile it was raining
JumpingTheGun
Banned
OK where the flip is Nikita?
I found her buddy in the mines and he told me he left her outside, but I cant find her anywhere. Did he mean outside on the Splintered Path? Cause I found nothing there.
slaughterking
Member
JumpingTheGun said:
Yes, she is in the area before the mines. She is not directly in front of the mine entrance but somewhere close. And she is surrounded by monsters iirc.
InternHertz
Member
Well I'm nearing the end of my playthrough, I found the 3 quests I missed, so my total is now 423 without story quests. Can't do more than that in one playthrough.
Everything else is also 100% except 2 trial awards and very few record awards, and the arts I don't really use are not all at level 10 because I don't want to farm AP for now, that can always be done later. And only one character is not at max in skills but it's only for 2 of them and it can be done in a future playthrough.
The only thing I'll do before saving the clear file is getting 2 more weapons I want with 3 slots, getting 3 pieces of equipment for 3 characters who don't have them already and then craft the gems to put in everything.
When this is done, I'll sell a lot of gear because I won't be using them anymore anyway, same thing with gems I don't use.
And that will be it. My objective was to be done with this before Xillia arrives, I'm glad I'll be able to achieve it.
Everything else is also 100% except 2 trial awards and very few record awards, and the arts I don't really use are not all at level 10 because I don't want to farm AP for now, that can always be done later. And only one character is not at max in skills but it's only for 2 of them and it can be done in a future playthrough.
The only thing I'll do before saving the clear file is getting 2 more weapons I want with 3 slots, getting 3 pieces of equipment for 3 characters who don't have them already and then craft the gems to put in everything.
When this is done, I'll sell a lot of gear because I won't be using them anymore anyway, same thing with gems I don't use.
And that will be it. My objective was to be done with this before Xillia arrives, I'm glad I'll be able to achieve it.
lostinblue
Banned
Mine finally arrived today, it looks way better than I thought it would on the Wii, very fluid and good animations make the difference, and of course, the fact that the game is actually colorful.
From what I played I understand it's not a normal game, it's quite a gem this early.
I really hope that everyone on this thread playing "enhanced" versions of the game via PC have purchased it, I'm not even being anal with the whole "you shall rip it" crap that no one does, but really, anyone going through it should put down the bucks the game costs, please buy it, the status of RPG's is not what it once was and I definitely want to see more of this.
Plus it's quite easy to spot how much work and love have gone into this one, it should sell accordingly, not paying up front for a game of this caliber is a crime. I'm even thinking of buying a second copy.
BTW, am I the only one enjoying the english voice-overs?
From what I played I understand it's not a normal game, it's quite a gem this early.
I really hope that everyone on this thread playing "enhanced" versions of the game via PC have purchased it, I'm not even being anal with the whole "you shall rip it" crap that no one does, but really, anyone going through it should put down the bucks the game costs, please buy it, the status of RPG's is not what it once was and I definitely want to see more of this.
Plus it's quite easy to spot how much work and love have gone into this one, it should sell accordingly, not paying up front for a game of this caliber is a crime. I'm even thinking of buying a second copy.
BTW, am I the only one enjoying the english voice-overs?
MatthewB92 said:
Is that the one where you
have to find the leaders of the antols and chilkins
above the entrance to the lake coming from the Nopon Camp. There's a platform you have to reach. You can reach it by jumping at the right time when sliding down the ice tunnel.
JumpingTheGun
Banned
CoolS said:
She sure is. Thank you gentlemen.
lostinblue
Banned
I know. It's just so ambitious.TheExodu5 said:
Most games this gen are too afraid to push the envelope and dropping graphical detail so they are way too conservative. Xenoblade is like a slap to the face with all that.
So what if we don't have the most processing power, the most RAM, the best cutscene models but still try harder than anyone else?
It's just pretty seeing that they sacrificed everything in order to get this scale working. Of course an HD version of it would be even better but I feel people miss the point Shadow of the Colossus wouldn't be nearly as impressive if it was released on the PS3 being a PS2 game, for instance stuff has to be tailor made for the hardware and this is impressive as is because it's on the Wii (although this scope would be impressive anywhere).
This piece of software would be intensive on any console, even if they could muster better graphics in the end it would be bound to bring any console or PC to it's knee's HD developers are afraid to do this because they're too preoccupied with textures and character models looking fine and dandy.
Monolith I love your balls; because it takes balls to make a game like this.
They sacrificed everything for the scope.polg said:
"If" any developer would try to do something like this on PS3/X360 or even PC the graphics would suffer.
The Last Story is more focused on graphics, this one is focused on scope, even if in the process they reduced the detail on a macroscopic way, it was a tradeback and a tradeback that they would need to do in any platform really.
As for character models, I don't think they look so bad; they're better than the FFXII ones, detailed facial animations, detailed fingers and all that... Plus the modeling is quite good for what it is.
FFXII had cutscene models though, this one doesn't. Again, it takes BALLS.
slaughterking
Member
Exactly, it just doesn't look like one -- which makes me wonder what you're even talking about. Xillia's assets and level geometry are highly unimpressive.polg said:
SecretMoblin
Member
Balls and money, which NCL has quite a bit of.lostinblue said:
Now if only they would throw money at Monolith to make a proper sequel on the WiiU...
and Treasure to make the next Star Fox...
JumpingTheGun
Banned
SecretMoblin said:
I was thinkin Retro could handle that, but Treasure makes sense.
lostinblue
Banned
I don't think they had that much money, time, sure, since 2006 till 2010 is something a Tales team couldn't even dream of. but this tastes more like a labour of love than a "we had an unlimited budget".SecretMoblin said:
Xenosaga 1 on PS2 was a double layer game, Xenosaga 2 and 3 had two discs to them (was cheaper than dual layer) this one is single layer in Japan, for instance, might not seem like much or like something they didn't need this time around (who knows) but might also mean that NoJ didn't see the need.
Plus if they had more budget, and more pressure through Nintendo I bet they would have eventually gone for cutscene models a la FFXII to mask how lowpoly (although nicely made) they are because the bigger the budget the bigger the focus on graphics, this game totally got away with it.
If you ask me there's something where being high end limits software, for instance how could they model this amount of content looking like a HD game? sure it would look better (as would having cutscene models) but they took 4 years to do this as is.
AceBandage
Banned
lostinblue said:
Glad they didn't, honestly.
So tired of CGI cutscenes in RPGs.
I like the in game models.
lostinblue
Banned
Xenosaga 2 and 3 didn't have as many CGI cutscenes.AceBandage said:
But you're right, yes.
My point was more in the lines that they weren't that blessed, their blessings was that they weren't rushed through the door like most third party's would with a new IP. But they clearly didn't have, say, 30 million dollars, probably 10/15 million tops. (and we have games costing 100 million this gen)
But that other than that, their resources were pretty much the same and they found themselves being scretched to complete their original vision for this game, it was way too ambitious to do on the Wii, but then again the fact they could throw macrodetail throught the window is what made the project possible.
Adding more personnel and having a bigger budget would be the solution otherwise and we know the most new members a team has the more diluted it is, I mean MGS4 and a few other "killer-IP's" out there that got diluted by teams with hundreds of members. Monolith is really tight, I really think while they weren't blessed with attention, expectation and budgets they were really lucky.
JumpingTheGun
Banned
No blockbuster budget and still some of the best, most well crafted and directed action cutscenes Ive ever seen.