IdreamofHIME
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He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
Haha, reminds me of my all time fav.
Henry scoring againsts Spurs and then running the entire length of the pitch to celebrate in front of the Spurs fans.
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OK State Basketball player Marcus Smart shoves fan
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Haha, reminds me of my all time fav.
Henry scoring againsts Spurs and then running the entire length of the pitch to celebrate in front of the Spurs fans.
I didn't say it was right. I said it was understandable because he is human and no one is perfect. People get angry and do stupid things, especially teenagers who have adrenaline running through their system and are losing in something that they love. No one is completely logical and clear-headed all of the time. And what he did was pretty tame. He shoved a guy. Was it right? Of course not. Should he have done it? No. But he did. Whatever
Frankly, I find it rather disgusting that you (well, to be fair, its mostly Kevtones) seem obsessed with proving that Smart is a piece of shit human being or something like that. I mean, why?
It is easy. Don't push people. Don't touch people. Don't escalate stupid situations. He isn't 13. He is 20. He knows their are consequences to dumb stuff he does. He lives in a post Ben Wallace world.
It's not easy to some I guess but you know doing hard things is kind of inevitable, and if the hardest thing you have to do is not shove someone over a basketball game, consider yourself blessed.
Edit: and I don't know if the guy is a peace of shit or whatever, but I'm more likely to believe he is an asshole that say Richard Sherman, who didn't do anything but win.
It's not easy. You don't know what you're talking about.
Haha, reminds me of my all time fav.
Henry scoring againsts Spurs and then running the entire length of the pitch to celebrate in front of the Spurs fans.
Is this the one where the player had recently switched teams and went celebrating in front of his former fans? I remember something like that.
wow some people must be robots or something.
I am not saying what he did was right and yes he should have better judgement but for fucks sake man.....people can have emotions and sometimes said emotions makes you do dumb shit,....sometimes out of body dumb shit (Smart can come off a well adjusted guy for example).
It's like some of you never got angry and said or did something dumb. Bunch of saints in here apparently.
This is coming from a guy who has never been in a fight my entire life and the most angry I have ever been has been at goddam videogames and shit. So I never been angry enough to come to blows (partially because I am sure I'd get my ass beat haaaaard) but I do understand that you do dumb shit when your emotions aren't right.
apparently I am weird for that.
or some people in here are angels 24/7
I am not saying what he did was right and yes he should have better judgement but for fucks sake man.....people can have emotions and sometimes said emotions makes you do dumb shit,....sometimes out of body dumb shit (Smart can come off a well adjusted guy for example).
It's like some of you never got angry and said or did something dumb. Bunch of saints in here apparently.
This is coming from a guy who has never been in a fight my entire life and the most angry I have ever been has been at goddam videogames and shit. So I never been angry enough to come to blows (partially because I am sure I'd get my ass beat haaaaard) but I do understand that you do dumb shit when your emotions aren't right.
apparently I am weird for that.
or some people in here are angels 24/7
I'm trying to be objective to the situation by not asserting anything until we know. I have no stake in Smart or anyone for that matter. My only assertion is that he's a millionaire-in-waiting that should have the assurance to not let somebody affect him that way.
Read harder, bro.
It must be incredibly hard. That's explains why so many college athletes push fans during games all the time.
Yeah, because college athletes are that close to fans regularly. The vast majority of basketball players aren't ever that close to fans, and that's the game where it happens the most often.
The guy is infamous for embellishment and simulation...
The big fucking problem with remnants argument is hes forgetting this kid is 20 and we can make mistakes in the heat the moment in our lives at that age.
Depending on the person, it can be easy, but I wouldn't force that type of thinking to every young athlete. Its not easy...13 and 20 might as well be the same age when you think of the atmosphere that hes around at college.
Or that the two examples from the last 10 years of college/nba basketball are the Palace brawl or the 'slap' that has no videographic evidence (Memphis game 6 years back).
Again 99.9% of these athletes handle themselves. Marcus Smart didn't today. That's what we know.
How many 18-20 year olds pushed fans in College basketball in the past 10 years?
Then it sounds like you are deluding yourself because that is not the impression that you are giving off.
Smart still should have walked away. The problem I have is with people that try and completely absolve the booster from any role in the confrontation. Like fans should have free reign to just spout awful, awful things and it's not a big deal.
How many of them were in the crowd and then had someone say something inflammatory right next them? Let's at least compare apples to apples.
No one is an angel 24/7 but I don't excuse the dumb shit I do.
"Oh I was young."
"Oh I was angry"
" oh I was stressed."
" oh we'll he started it."
Would you say that if he swung? If he seriously injured the guy? If he started a brawl? I'm seriously wondering.
Looks like things were not going so well for this dude well before this most recent outburst....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo2aUfwPQvs
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I'll tell you as soon as you tell me how many players were told to go back to Africa in the last 10 years.
Until then, you keep putting these athletes into your own little box.
I've had it personally happen when playing pick up basketball and I agree, being physical is not the answer. But this happened 2yrs ago at 25...A more mature age. I couldn't answer for what I would have done if it were 5 years before.
Oldschoolgamer
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Test people with racist remarks, brehs.
Smart should have known better. That guy will keep on living as a racist fuckhead, while that's gonna put a huge blemish on his resume.
Miss me with the whole fans will be fans, twitch chat, nonsense.
Smart should have known better. That guy will keep on living as a racist fuckhead, while that's gonna put a huge blemish on his resume.
Miss me with the whole fans will be fans, twitch chat, nonsense.
Please point out the posts saying that Smart should be absolved of any responsibility for this.
Red Blaster
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michael carter williams robbed a store
tyreke evans was an accessory in a drive by
chris paul punches people in the nuts
no one cares
Read the thread. Their are plenty of "it was just a push. He is just a kid. It's not that big a deal. The booster was worse despite not touching him."
This is becoming a big issue for the wrong reasons. Smart didn't do anything but shove the guy who told him to go back to Africa supposedly. No one was hurt, it was a heat of the moment thing.
Has no one remembered old time hockey? Coaches and fans grabbing people over the glass, jumping into stands etc.
For some, words can have a greater impact on others. Heckling happens in sports, often times racist and comments about mothers, wives, stuff happens. Sometimes athletes lose their cool, most times they don't.
Has no one remembered old time hockey? Coaches and fans grabbing people over the glass, jumping into stands etc.
For some, words can have a greater impact on others. Heckling happens in sports, often times racist and comments about mothers, wives, stuff happens. Sometimes athletes lose their cool, most times they don't.
So by holding Smart accountable for his actions I'm somehow out to get him? My first thought was 'yeah the fan probably said something fucking stupid' but that doesn't excuse Smart whatsoever. And the fan, if they said something terrible, should be banned from attendance or something more thoughtful.
Keep calm/carry on though? Shouldn't that prevail in both parties' case?
Look, shoving someone is a minor transgression but shoving a fan is not okay. There's a fine fucking line in the sand and it can't be washed away.
Seriously, read up on Smart's recent unhinging. He's had a rough go in 2014 and this incident isn't surprising.
LyleLanley
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One could agree with all of those thoughts while still believing that Smart should be reprimanded.
I did. I've been posting the entire time, in case you haven't noticed.
That quote doesn't say anything about him not being reprimanded for it.
Besides, it's not a big deal. Worse shit happens regularly in every big sport. No one was hurt. Again, reprimand Smart and the booster and move on.
then it becomes more serious. He pushed an asshole. Thats it,
There are levels to this shit. There is no one set rule to how these things go.
In a scenario where he goes full Artest, I'd be less lenient. Artest was wrong to go into the stands (more so because he got the wrong guy...) but that was started because he got beer thrown on him and Artest is a grown ass man...a completely batshit insane one but still a grown ass man. A college kid having a bad month gets told to go back to Africa during the waining minutes of his 4th straight loss...pushes a guy, and I am less hard on him.
There are levels to it.
If you punch a guy who called your mom a whore and dude is ok. Then it's understandable.
If you punch a guy TO DEATH after he called your mom a whore, it's much less understandable.
I understand the reaction in one situation the other is waaay over the top. He pushed a guy. that's it. Dude got off relatively easy. Doesn't make it right. He should have walked away and all that jazz....but
i understand.
Bubble Metropolis
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What? This guy?! He looks 12-years-old. I don't see it in him.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/12/syracuse_basketball_guard_mich.html
Oh, he put a robe in his backpack while shopping and paid a fine after trying to walk out with it. I don't think that's the image people see when you say someone "robbed a store"
And that great, but my first post in this thread alluded to the idea that very prevalent on twitter and here that the booster deserved it or was the worse person because he said the n word, which apparently isn't true. I'm sure we all agree that smart and this booster guy will get punished, but their seems to be idea that Smart was the victim here, where from what I see he is the one who took it over the line.
I must have missed the WWE promo he cut after game...What makes you think he doesn't feel shamed for what he did?
Everything else you typed is hypothetical bullshit.
There is no victim and no perpetrator. Both were in the wrong.
Have you been to a basketball game? Lots of vulgarity and regrettable words. Not a clean place to be.
Read up on Smart. He's a good kid on a bad streak right now. Tonight seems like shit hitting the fan and I'm glad it was just a shove. The fact is wasn't more, given his recent troubles, is probably indicative that he's a pretty good dude who made a mistake.
The Maverick
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To think this guy would've been at least the number 5 pick last year. The cherry on top of a disastrous season.
hahah
lol, if I were a footy fan I'd consider this for an avatar.
You should recite this to remnent...He's going at the young man like hes the 2nd coming of Ron Artest.
Still might be.
but if he drops it won't be because of this.It will be because of his play. Michael Beasley is probably high right now watching Spongbob....and he went 2nd and could have gone 1st.
tiggerkiddo
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Fans really get away some scummy stuff. Smart deserves some punishment but so does that fan.
He's going to be a top 10 pick for sure this year regardless.
Artest made a mistake but the Detroit fans should be blamed for Malice in the Palace.
Saren is Bad
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Lol at this affecting his draft status. GMs and scouts could give a shit, as long as he can play. Although, he's been pretty mediocre this year.
Sir_Crocodile
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ashecitism
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Love Deterrence
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Yeah. I really wished that he would have entered the draft -- for his sake. Also,
he destroyed my Tigers
Freaky Fred
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lmao @ the bearded guy on the bottom left.
Kinky John
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He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
That Henderson guy shat it as soon as the fella at the front with the glasses stood up. He didn't want any of that.
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