Ninja Scooter
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What's funny is I bet that old man thinks that's what happens. He's like "He don't want any of me"
OK State Basketball player Marcus Smart shoves fan
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What's funny is I bet that old man thinks that's what happens. He's like "He don't want any of me"
hahah
hehe perfect lol
Lambda Pie
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still the best:
Lmao, holy shit. Epic gif.still the best:
He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
The neutral parties: "LOL, successful troll."
HeisenbergLannister
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He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
The most amazing thing about this gif is there were that many people at an Auburn basketball game that didn't involve Kentucky.
cr_blah_blah
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He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
I just noticed the cardboard head cutout, I'm assuming, flying in and that girl's reaction to it. It's the gif that keeps giving. Which is such a dramatic face for such a flimsy flying thing.
Discotheque
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He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
still the best:
bless these men. throw it in their faces.
Damn, they have separate opposing fans with cops!?No, this is it:
Guileless
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He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
Never gets old. He scored 29 yesterday against Mizzou.
Isn't that taunting? Did he get a technical for that?
oneils
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I always forget this about NCAA. It's such bullshit.
Guileless
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He did the jersey popping move right after the buzzer at the end of the game so no technical. Obviously he brings a lot of it on himself, but Marshall Henderson gets more abuse from opposing fan bases than anyone I've ever seen. He actually enjoys it.
It was after the game was over.
People don't even bother addressing the instigators behavior or how its basically entirely acceptable lol
"Be the better man"
How about the organizations that run these venues, events, and arenas take some responsibility and ensure that their (in this case unpaid) employees don't have to just deal with this kind of shit?
enanogrande
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Tevez is such a douche. Inexcusable.
Adebayeor is awesome. Legend.
I hate ManU & love Arsenal. WHY DO I FEEL THIS WAY HGGGGG
City breeds douchiness confirmed, btw :trollface:
EDIT: IM FUCKING BLIND ¬¬
Anyways, back on topic... am I the only one that feels "Go back to Africa" is worse than "Nigger"? I mean damn, nigger is obviously massively offensive but its a much more lazy insult than Go back to Africa. I can see nigger just being blurted out as a spur of the moment thing (not excusable in any way) but to say Go back to Africa requires a different thought process all together.
Regardless of what he said though, I can't stand by anyone who justifies his actions. Bottom line is athletes and fans should never mix. If the fan said those things, he should be treated with by the authorities. If he's a booster and has some level of sway with said authorities, in this day and age it is of no difficulty for Smart to hit social media and expose him for the racist dick he is.
I don't want to defend Marcus Smarts actions cuz he shouldn't have pushed the guy but remnant dude, you are laying all the blame on one side.
He landed under the guys seat, he didn't jump into the crowd.
It's a game to us but the game is some of these guys lives. They see it from a different perspective than you and I.
If you are playing the 'he started it' card, the other dude started it.
He landed under the guys seat, he didn't jump into the crowd.
Sure they are but I bet the great majority of them if you put them under intense pressure you can find a button to push that would make them react on the heat of the moment. I bet you you would fold under the right circumstances too. We all have our limits.
It's a game to us but the game is some of these guys lives. They see it from a different perspective than you and I.
They almost never are. You might occasionally see a fan escorted out of a game - but the amount ridiculously vile shit that is said to players would floor anyone who's never been to a few games. Hurling batteries, talking shit about players' familes, racial shit like this particular case. Its not uncommon at all. Especially in college games.
oneils
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What? This guy?! He looks 12-years-old. I don't see it in him.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/12/syracuse_basketball_guard_mich.html
Oh, he put a robe in his backpack while shopping and paid a fine after trying to walk out with it. I don't think that's the image people see when you say someone "robbed a store"
maybe he meant to write "robed a store"
hyuck.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...arcus-smart-oklahoma-state-cowboys-shoves-fan
@1:25 you can clearly see Smart point at the fan and saying, "You called me a nigger."
@1:25 you can clearly see Smart point at the fan and saying, "You called me a nigger."
Oh okay.
enanogrande
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Yeah I know, and it's massively messed up. But if Smart means to take matters into his own hands, physically lashing out is by no means the way to do so. Like I mentioned, there are enough avenues via social media nowadays to bring some attention to the issue, and for a nationally known athlete like himself even traditional media is an option. Wether he gets a result out of that is another question (I'm inclined to believe that he would, especially if done the right way, but that's another discussion), but it's still better than attacking a fan.
Machine
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Clearly the heckler's actions are deplorable but the Smart apologists here are just as bad if not worse. I knew by the time I was ten years-old that a normal civilized person does not react to provocation and is able to keep their emotions in under control (with the exception of life-threatening situations). Do I understand why he may have reacted the way he did? Yes. Do I think his reaction was in any way justifiable? No fucking way. He was an adult and he should be able to keep himself in check even under "emotional" or "heated" circumstances.
Again, I'm really, really against putting more than a fraction of blame on the 20 year old that's literally working for his future income when there a several more responsible parties that should be doing better.
He shouldn't have to take anything upon himself to get something like this handled on the spot.
ExtremePopcorn
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It's normally at all levels of football for the home and away fans to be separated and have Police between them.
It does get to some ridiculous levels though, this is a video showing sunderland fans being escorted to the ground before the derby with Newcastle last week. Surrounded by Police with mounted police for a bit extra.
The Albatross
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Saw this on TV last night at the bar... wonder what the guy said to him.
Regardless, student athletes are trained better than to do this... He went out of his way to walk over to the guy and shove him.
Also that Marshall Henderson gif is pure gold
Regardless, student athletes are trained better than to do this... He went out of his way to walk over to the guy and shove him.
Also that Marshall Henderson gif is pure gold
You come at anyone with some racially founded insult and you run the risk of unearthing every single side-eye, injustice, shove in the back, and cheapening that they've ever dealt with in their life all at once. Even without the racial stuff here, everyone that has a button that can be pushed. The problem in many sports events is that fans feel that they are entitled to push every single one until they get a reaction. In no other situation in the civilized world is that okay.
So I really don't see the need of focusing more than a fraction of attention on what Marcus Smart could do better here. Especially when this situation is reoccurs countless times because of the same thing.
No, they aren't lol
ConradCervantes
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Marcus Smart shouldn't have been black. That way, the old-ass racist Texan wouldn't have called him a nigger and got the party started. All Smart's fault. Smh, If you're gonna fall into the crowd, be white first.
enanogrande
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Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with you. There's no justification for his actions to me, I don't care what the fan says. The fact that he is working for his future income, and that he is a worker - NCAA legalese and obfuscation notwithstanding - drive this point home. Theres a line between athlete and fan that should not be crossed, period.
And yeah, we both agree that he shouldn't have to take it upon himself. But I fail to see how that justifies his actions in anyway, seeing as he did take it upon himself. If he felt the need to, he should have done so in a way that did not include physical violence.
shira
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RE: the outrage over this
Dude shouldn't have said anything if he didn't want trouble. People yell some vile shit at players at sporting events and mostly get away with it because they're far away.
Dude lost tens of millions not entering the draft last year.
This year he stock has been dropping
now he just got about 20 character flags that scouts just added.
Your stance and attitude is what's wrong with the environment as a whole. You can say whatever you want to someone, but the moment they retaliate, they're the one that stepped too far. The general observer sees it this way, the stadiums basically see it this way, the organization running things sees it this way, and the fans will always see it this way. So that leaves the people on the otherside of this situation, the ones that actually got berated to the point where they don't give a fuck anymore, to be labeled as the people that need to take the high road and be bigger than it all.
That's crap. Fix the system that allows this shit to keep happening and these incidents that happen in every sport and there won't be anymore problems.
chicagocubsfan
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Aww yeah. The calculated move by Marcus Smart to drop to the Bulls is working out perfectly.
HeisenbergLannister
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Yeah, exactly...
Or, clearly it wasn't just because of this, but his team on the verge of losing another game, and Smart doesn't have the maturity to deal with the situation, judging by this and his previous actions.
Do people really think this is the first time those words have ever been uttered at a player? It doesn't make it right, yes, but nothing like this has ever happened in years, at least, because of it.
Smart should be suspended two games. The fan should be banned for the remainder of the season and his seats moved away from that proximity to the court.
Looks like that thing Superman gets trapped in
Headcase is reserved for JR Smiths and Ron Artests. This guy is just frustrated that he came back to help his school win something big and his teammates don't do shit to help him when he's getting the majority of the attention every night. He's acting just like a typical NBA player - but its not cool because college basketball is so pure or something.
SneakySneaks
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If the fan did indeed call him a 'nigger' then Smart should only get a slap on the wrist. Nothing major, just maybe sit a game or two. If he was just busting his balls and talking shit (ie nothing racist) then it should be more severe.
At least he did push the right guy, Artest attacked a guy holding a beer...for throwing a beer at him. I'm still shocked we never heard anything about that guy suing the NBA, I mean if you're going to fight a fan make sure it's the one who is guilty.
At least he did push the right guy, Artest attacked a guy holding a beer...for throwing a beer at him. I'm still shocked we never heard anything about that guy suing the NBA, I mean if you're going to fight a fan make sure it's the one who is guilty.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I don't think many NBA players would respond to a "YOU'RE A FLOPPER" chant from the crowd by getting themselves a technical which forced them to the bench (because it was his 4th foul) and cost their team the game. I don't think many NBA players would run out into the hallway behind the court in the last five minutes of a close game. He takes things further than most players.
He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
Lol at the old man thinking he's going to do anything, dont stand up too fast and throw out your back
Don't make me bring Kobe into this.
You don't think college athletes like him get paid?
He could use a lesson in trolling skills from Marshall Henderson
I thought this GIF was hilarious until I noticed the super old dude sitting next to the old dude, who comes into the frame as the GIF rolls, and noticed the sad look on his face, then I just got sad.
From the way it goes down, I'd guess something homo sexually related. Smart gets up in front of the guy but doesn't shove the guy until he appears to wave his hand dismissively and appears to say "you're not my type".
It seems people want to believe this was something unusual said to Smart and I don't think it has as much to do with that as the time and scenario. I imagine the fan could have said anything offensive or taunting. Sadly, Smart probably heard things equally as bad if not worse throughout the game. Smart just committed a foul that likely locked up a 4th straight loss for OSU. He's been personified as the villain in the B12 this year. He's getting flopper chants and I'm sure far worse things yelled at him every road game. All the pressure is on Smart to deliver and things aren't going well for Ok. State.. players getting injured, one getting kicked off the team this week, and losing 5 out of 6 games.
A guy got pushed; He'll be fine. Smart'll get suspended for quite a few games I assume; He'll be a millionaire by this summer. Life goes on..
Machine
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This feels like you are projecting your own personal perspective onto him. Smart is an elite basketball player who has been catered to for years. Despite these recent problems, some team is likely to take a chance on him and he will potentially end up making more money by the time he is 25 than many of us will make in a lifetime. It seems unlikely he has the same built-up issues and resentments as a normal guy. Besides, it's not just sports figures that face this type of abuse and harassment. Any public figure in sports, entertainment, politics, or whatever faces this shit. The more high-profile they are, they more they are subjected to it. Doesn't make it right but it's they way things are.
dorkimoe
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Sorry but if someone called me something homosexualy related I would have laughed. These players are supposed to have thicker skin. And if it was the n word than its a little more understandable. But I don't see anyone yelling that in public like that. Sorry so I wouldn't believe him
Edit. Apparently the same fan has been doing it for years. If that's the case he needs to be moved. Can't constantly put a trouble maker that close.
Edit. Apparently the same fan has been doing it for years. If that's the case he needs to be moved. Can't constantly put a trouble maker that close.
Yeah... a personal perspective of being black. Act like you aren't projecting your own stuff with "he's been catered to for years". That's got nothing to do with being berated for 3 hours straight. They're not trained to sit and take that kind of abuse. Nobody is. Especially at 20 years old.
So again, we can focus all that attention on how this guy lost it after being told to go back to Africa after falling into the crowd OR
OR
we can talk about the fact that you can say whatever the hell you want to another person just because you paid for a ticket. They're no longer people anymore anyways. Its not like there's an incident where a fan or a group of fans pushes a guy past his breaking point every few months.
enanogrande
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How does the system being broken at all excuse Smart? You seem to be ignoring the fact that Smart didn't yell insults back, he physically assaulted the man, so yeah I can easily see how someone would see Smart's actions as being worse than the fans.
But even taking that into account, I fail to see anyone using Smart's actions to free the fan of any blame. They both stepped to far, and both should be reprimanded for their actions. The fan's actions don't automatically become okay once Smart shoved him, but neither does Smart shoving him become acceptable because of what the fan said.
Smart does have to take the high road. If he can't, then he's not cut out to be a professional athlete.
The fact that I criticize Smart in no way makes me an apologist for the fan, it means I hold Smart to a standard all athletes should be held to - that of a professional sportsman, not of a random fan in the stands. And since you obviously do not, I would say it is in fact your attitude that is 'what's wrong with the environment as a whole'.
Jest Chillin
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Kanye's been rich and famous for years and it didn't stop him from flipping out at somebody who was popping off at the mouth with racial slurs. People need to stop acting like being rich and/or successful means that a person suddenly has no stress and prevents someone from being insulted. Doesn't matter how much fame, money, or special treatment a person may get, they're still human. They're still likely to react when they're on edge and someone pushes their buttons.
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