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[stn]

RE: friendzone

Whatever you want to call it, it definitely exists. That situation where a guy likes a girl but just lingers around in the hope that she'll one day "love" him? And instead of being bold he watches her hook up with other guys and then comforts her when she experiences relationship woes?

Or, the girl who secretly likes a guy but decides to wait for him to make a move. And while she's waiting he's hitting on other women. Friendzone or not, it exists. The only time it doesn't exist is if you're either with the person involved or you're just friends and you're actually content with it. But I mean truly content.

 

[Servbot24]

3 dates and not even a kiss? Whats going on

i dunno man, bit worried. i keep looking out for a sign she wants me to but she's always just chill. guess i need to just make a bold move. blah, hate that.

and yeah friends is cool but this girl is a babe

 

[Minamu]

i dunno man, bit worried. i keep looking out for a sign she wants me to but she's always just chill. guess i need to just make a bold move. blah, hate that.

and yeah friends is cool but this girl is a babe

Everything is a sign If you don't see a sign, make your own.

 

[TheExodu5]

Any girls here have recommendations for birth control other than the pill? GF says she doesn't feel good with the pill. With condoms, I can lose sensation after 10-15 minutes or so, which can make things frustrating sometimes.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Any girls here have recommendations for birth control other than the pill? GF says she doesn't feel good with the pill. With condoms, I can lose sensation after 10-15 minutes or so, which can make things frustrating sometimes.

Try different brands of condoms as well as all the different "flavors". Your problem! Use it as an excuse to try lots of different types.

10-15 mins you should be done brah.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

i dunno man, bit worried. i keep looking out for a sign she wants me to but she's always just chill. guess i need to just make a bold move. blah, hate that.

and yeah friends is cool but this girl is a babe

Seriously

 

[TheExodu5]

Try different brands of condoms as well as all the different "flavors". Your problem! Use it as an excuse to try lots of different types.

10-15 mins you should be done brah.

I'm kind of stuck with magnums...regular sized ones kind of hurt.

 

[Oxn]

I'm kind of stuck with magnums...regular sized ones kind of hurt.

......................unstealth brag.........

 

[BravesCountry]

So I'll try and keep it as short as possible (still long), as I didn't think it deserved its own thread but this seemed like a decent place for advice. So I had been hooking up with this girl freshman year (I'm a senior now) for a little over a month and we had amazing chemistry together, we must have spent every waking moment together it was pretty incredible. She is extremely beautiful in my eyes and extremely smart as well. I know that this was just the infatuation stage but it was extremely strong and any good relationship would start that way.

I ended up losing touch with her though when my old girlfriend transferred and I got back together with her, which in hindsight I had kicked myself over many times as I felt like this girl was the one who got away and I had screwed it all up, and especially since I ended up breaking up with my girlfriend about a year ago. I had thought about this other girl every once in a while, but thought she had certainly moved on in her life as she has had an on and off boyfriend and we didn't talk anymore.

Fastforward to last Thursday, I ran into her at a bar and we have our first real conversation in years, and it feels like not a day had passed since we had been so infatuated with each other. Both of our friend groups were there but we spoke together alone for over an hour about everything in life, including how we both wished we had kept in touch and how she had also thought about me at times and how compatible we had been. We talked about she remembered where we first kissed and all the trips all over campus we took at night after hours where we would just talk and enjoy each others company, and she joked about how her friends always thought we were meant to be together. It was mostly light conversation but I do know that she is back to dating her on and off boyfriend and we did talk about our old and current relationships a little.

I end up leaving the bar but she texts me about an hour later, and I drunkenly decided I should invite her to lunch on me in the next week as long as she felt it was appropriate. She agrees and says that she always has a good time talking with me, and how we are both looking forward to it. So it has been a couple of days, and I am leaning heavily towards not taking her to lunch because I don't think it is appropriate, but I don't want to lose touch with her as I don't want to miss any opportunity to connect with her again as she is that person that only comes along every once in a while that no matter how much time has been lost the connection is still there.

Should I just be totally honest with her about why I can't take her because the talk we had rekindled some feelings I had and it would be disingenuous for me to take her to lunch under the pretense of friendship? or Should I just tell her I don't find it appropriate since she is dating somebody and I don't want to be disrespectful? The second one is definitely true but doesn't fully explain my reasons, but is less emotional and dramatic. Ideally I would cancel the lunch but somehow leave it open as like an indefinite invitation under different circumstances.

Also in the back of her mind, even if she views it as only going to lunch as friends, she has to still find it somewhat inappropriate right? I wouldn't necessarily want my old girlfriend being treated to lunch by a guy she had hooked up with before, but maybe that's just me.

P.S. thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this, I know it's stupid but I thought I would ask for some advice on how to handle this tough situation.

 

[TheExodu5]

......................unstealth brag.........

=\ well what else can I say? Selection is just more limited. Normal ones can work fine, but they're uncomfortably tight.

In any case, I'm hoping for a solution that will avoid condoms altogether as it just kills so much of the sensation.

 

[Minamu]

Some lady friends of mine have a small metal stick in their arm as birth control. Not sure what it's called in English but that seems like a good alternative, haven't heard about any side effects from it, but I'm sure our women here know more about it and its safety guarantees.

As for losing sensation with condoms, be glad you do that xD I rarely have any sensation to begin with. Penetration either hurts like heeeell or I barely feel anything when my head is touched in any way. Supposedly there's some kind of gel for making you feel more but I want to know the source of the problem, really. It usually makes sex feel like a chore and no sensation = lack of boner no matter how hot the girl is :/ It's fun to please women with my mouth, fingers and dick but I barely get anything out of it myself I've noticed. I'm doing experiments with a lady friend but we've just started. Seems I'm "big" too, I never considered it, so maybe I should look at the Magnums too just once.

As for our ladies in here, have any of you ever experienced literally getting torn apart by a guy before? That happened to me recently, seems I thrusted too hard or for too long that something broke inside her even though she was lubricated. It most likely wasn't menstrual blood, she had thought about seeing a doctor about it for ages. Fair amount of blood, nothing too bad, just took a shower but I don't want to break her :lol Thin membranes or something, she said. Doesn't hurt at all but still a bit weird.

 

[BravesCountry]

=\ well what else can I say? Selection is just more limited. Normal ones can work fine, but they're uncomfortably tight.

In any case, I'm hoping for a solution that will avoid condoms altogether as it just kills so much of the sensation.

In my experience Magnums doesn't necessarily imply a huge dick, I can use magnums and I would say I'm pretty close to average.

Some lady friends of mine have a small metal stick in their arm as birth control. Not sure what it's called in English but that seems like a good alternative, haven't heard about any side effects from it, but I'm sure our women here know more about it and its safety guarantees.

As for losing sensation with condoms, be glad you do that xD I rarely have any sensation to begin with. Penetration either hurts like heeeell or I barely feel anything when my head is touched in any way. Supposedly there's some kind of gel for making you feel more but I want to know the source of the problem, really. It usually makes sex feel like a chore and no sensation = lack of boner no matter how hot the girl is :/ It's fun to please women with my mouth, fingers and dick but I barely get anything out of it myself I've noticed. I'm doing experiments with a lady friend but we've just started. Seems I'm "big" too, I never considered it, so maybe I should look at the Magnums too just once.

As for our ladies in here, have any of you ever experienced literally getting torn apart by a guy before? That happened to me recently, seems I thrusted too hard or for too long that something broke inside her even though she was lubricated. It most likely wasn't menstrual blood, she had thought about seeing a doctor about it for ages. Fair amount of blood, nothing too bad, just took a shower but I don't want to break her :lol Thin membranes or something, she said. Doesn't hurt at all but still a bit weird.

Lack of sensation sounds like a real problem and if I were you I would want to know the source as well, is there a specialist you can get an appointment with?

 

[bigfunkychiken]

You're all going to die alone.

So what? Everybody dies alone.

 

[stn]

Wow, did he actually write that? I missed it. My sympathy for his situation is officially lost.

 

[freshair]

Should I just be totally honest with her about why I can't take her because the talk we had rekindled some feelings I had and it would be disingenuous for me to take her to lunch under the pretense of friendship? or Should I just tell her I don't find it appropriate since she is dating somebody and I don't want to be disrespectful? The second one is definitely true but doesn't fully explain my reasons, but is less emotional and dramatic. Ideally I would cancel the lunch but somehow leave it open as like an indefinite invitation under different circumstances.

Also in the back of her mind, even if she views it as only going to lunch as friends, she has to still find it somewhat inappropriate right? I wouldn't necessarily want my old girlfriend being treated to lunch by a guy she had hooked up with before, but maybe that's just me.

Don't cancel. If you must "air your thoughts", do so in person.

Tell her what you just told us. That you've been thinking about her on and off, and the chance encounter in the bar just rekindled old feelings.

And it's only "inappropriate" if she acts on that pretense while still in a relationship. You should trust your partner to make sound decisions with people when you're not around, and if she doesn't, then that's on her.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

=\ well what else can I say? Selection is just more limited. Normal ones can work fine, but they're uncomfortably tight.

In any case, I'm hoping for a solution that will avoid condoms altogether as it just kills so much of the sensation.

Honestly you should just deal with it. There is SO little males have to worry about with regards to birth control without piling more on the female, unless she's up for getting shots or pills or who knows what - just so you can "feel better" - consider that before you try to find something for someone else to do so you can have a better time fuckin.

If she's down, though, go for it - just don't be a weenie about it. Consider the tradeoff.

 

[freshair]

Any girls here have recommendations for birth control other than the pill? GF says she doesn't feel good with the pill. With condoms, I can lose sensation after 10-15 minutes or so, which can make things frustrating sometimes.

IUD

Some prefer it over the pill because it releases a lower dosage of hormones than oral contraceptives.

 

[TheExodu5]

Honestly you should just deal with it. There is SO little males have to worry about with regards to birth control without piling more on the female, unless she's up for getting shots or pills or who knows what - just so you can "feel better" - consider that before you try to find something for someone else to do so you can have a better time fuckin.

It's not really just the feel better aspect...I am physically unable to stay hard after a while because all sensation is just lost with a condom. In any case, she's fully aware and I did ask her if she had looked into alternatives...ball's in her court if she want to look into it or not.

 

[beat]

Whatever you want to call it, it definitely exists. That situation where a guy likes a girl but just lingers around in the hope that she'll one day "love" him? And instead of being bold he watches her hook up with other guys and then comforts her when she experiences relationship woes?

Or, the girl who secretly likes a guy but decides to wait for him to make a move. And while she's waiting he's hitting on other women. Friendzone or not, it exists. The only time it doesn't exist is if you're either with the person involved or you're just friends and you're actually content with it. But I mean truly content.

Yes, obviously unrequited feelings is a common thing that really happens.

What Vince means is that the "friendzone" term as commonly used and especially the mindset behind most of the people who sincerely use it, is bullshit. No one owes you romantic love. You have a crush on them? Doesn't mean they're bad people if they don't feel the same way. You do their homework or buy them flowers or movie tickets? Great, they owe you thanks, but that's it.

And while friends sometimes do start dating and get married, etc, don't start a friendship with someone because you want to date them, and if you're already in that kind of situation, don't resent your friend for not feeling the same way.

(while we're on the topic, sort of, "confessing feelings" is not productive either, not after you're older than 14 (?) or so. Just ask someone out on a date.)

 

[Syncytia]

My friendzone experience:

We were already sort of friends, at least our groups were quite intertwined. We eventually became really good friends, dare I say best friends, and after some time I realized I had romantic feelings for her. She was seeing someone at the time so I kept quiet, but at some point I either told her or she found out some other way. Over the next couple years things would intermittently heat up but she was obviously conflicted about it due to seeing someone else but eventually they separated. We never got together or hooked up, but sometimes it would feel almost like we were dating, other times just friends. Got over her at one point and we continued to be friends for some time after that. Overall kind of weird situation I'd say. We finally sort of drifted apart and aren't really friends anymore, though whenever we do see each other its like we haven't been apart a day and we get along basically as really good friends would.

The guys who say they got friendzoned because a girl didn't want to go out with them need to get over themselves. Sometimes someone just doesn't want to date you. I've been "friendzoned" in that way plenty, and a couple of those are actually some of my best female friends.

 

[BravesCountry]

Don't cancel. If you must "air your thoughts", do so in person.

Tell her what you just told us. That you've been thinking about her on and off, and the chance encounter in the bar just rekindled old feelings.

And it's only "inappropriate" if she acts on that pretense while still in a relationship. You should trust your partner to make sound decisions with people when you're not around, and if she doesn't, then that's on her.

That's true, maybe I feel uncomfortable because I don't have the purest of intentions in this situation, if I could I would technically "steal" her from her boyfriend. I wouldn't consider being a participant of her cheating but if I could get her to like me and break up with him is that not considered bad etiquette? I don't know the guy so maybe it isn't, I'm sure he would feel some animosity towards me though. I guess as long as I'm honest about my intentions and feelings towards her then I can't really be blamed for too much, it doesn't necessarily sit right with me though

 

[freshair]

That's true, maybe I feel uncomfortable because I don't have the purest of intentions in this situation, if I could I would technically "steal" her from her boyfriend. I wouldn't consider being a participant of her cheating but if I could get her to like me and break up with him is that not considered bad etiquette? I don't know the guy so maybe it isn't, I'm sure he would feel some animosity towards me though. I guess as long as I'm honest about my intentions and feelings towards her then I can't really be blamed for too much, it doesn't necessarily sit right with me though

You're giving her an out without giving yourself a chance. You're waiting for a perfect circumstance of events to fall into place. That isn't going to happen.

There's nothing wrong with making your intentions known to someone that you care about. I'd argue that's more pure than those who befriend a girl (or relegate themselves to a "friendship" after finding out their girl is taken) just to casually pursue her in the off chance she breaks up with her bf.

In this instance, you're taking ownership of your feelings and actions. You act on it because you want to. What happens after is up to her. She can choose to remain in your life as "friends" (in which case you have to decide if you want that) or you can not. But the very fact of the matter is that she knows the truth and that's the important thing in life right? Being true to yourself and those around you.

 

[gugi40]

Serious question for everyone in this thread,

Have any of you experienced some extremely random negative behavior?

For example, talking to a guy or girl and the conversation is going well questions are being asked and interests are being connected, seemingly the person is interested...then all of a sudden they make a rude comment or negative remark that was never instigated by you, like it came out of nowhere.

I have done online dating for a while and have not experienced this so frequently.

Is anyone able to tell me what that is about?

 

[bigfunkychiken]

Serious question for everyone in this thread,

Have any of you experienced some extremely random negative behavior?

For example, talking to a guy or girl and the conversation is going well questions are being asked and interests are being connected, seemingly the person is interested...then all of a sudden they make a rude comment or negative remark that was never instigated by you, like it came out of nowhere.

I have done online dating for a while and have not experienced this so frequently.

Is anyone able to tell me what that is about?

It's possible that they a) had something else (troubling) on their mind or b) felt interrogated. And of course a MILLION other reasons but those are just two that came to mind first. Either way, if their response truly is rude/negative, I'd probably ask them what it was about--of course, you wouldn't really want to bring it up later; bringing it up when it happens can be a fairly casual thing, whereas bringing it up later would make it apparent to them that their strange behavior has been on your mind.. which could come across as strange in and of itself I suppose.

 

[BravesCountry]

You're giving her an out without giving yourself a chance. You're waiting for a perfect circumstance of events to fall into place. That isn't going to happen.

There's nothing wrong with making your intentions known to someone that you care about. I'd argue that's more pure than those who befriend a girl (or relegate themselves to a "friendship" after finding out their girl is taken) just to casually pursue her in the off chance she breaks up with her bf.

In this instance, you're taking ownership of your feelings and actions. You act on it because you want to. What happens after is up to her. She can choose to remain in your life as "friends" (in which case you have to decide if you want that) or you can not. But the very fact of the matter is that she knows the truth and that's the important thing in life right? Being true to yourself and those around you.

So as luck would have it...I actually ran into her at the library tonight and just went for it, so we are going to go to out for some drinks during lunch on Wednesday. I'll tell her my intentions and how I feel, and I guess we will see how it goes. Thanks for this advice, I probably would have cancelled otherwise.

 

[gugi40]

It's possible that they a) had something else (troubling) on their mind or b) felt interrogated. And of course a MILLION other reasons but those are just two that came to mind first. Either way, if their response truly is rude/negative, I'd probably ask them what it was about--of course, you wouldn't really want to bring it up later; bringing it up when it happens can be a fairly casual thing, whereas bringing it up later would make it apparent to them that their strange behavior has been on your mind.. which could come across as strange in and of itself I suppose.

Well it is not something like defensive, just something really negative like "You are all fake and phony" when I answer a question of if I own pets for example. Literally that kind of random.

Seems lately things are going south for me, like you said it could be anything and I will just lump them in with insecure people/trolls.

I don't even want to inquire about why they became negative/rude because every time I do they just go off on a tantrum about my looks or something sexist. It is kind of freaking me out and making me feel really hopeless in my quest for a stable relationship. In the past I had no problem finding someone seriously looking for a relationship who acted pleasant online, now I am a bit wearier of who I date because of past trauma but I am never rude or interrogating.

 

[OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather]

So I was introduced to this girl through a mutual friend that had been trying to get us to meet for several months. Cool girl, beautiful, a lot in common. Problem is, for whatever reason, I came off a bit aloof and like I wasn't interested, which couldn't be further from the truth. I think I may have even missed a hint that was about as obvious as a screaming freight train. I didn't even get her number or ask her out or anything. I'm at a point where I'd like to see her again, but I'm not sure if I blew any chance I had and if I should just move on, or go for a second chance and how. What say you, Dating-GAF?

 

[Servbot24]

Just tell your mutual friend you'd like to hang out with her again.

 

[OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather]

Lol I guess that seemed a bit too obvious to me. Probably over complicating things.

 

[BravesCountry]

Lol I guess that seemed a bit too obvious to me. Probably over complicating things.

I always end up overcomplicating things, but yeah in your situation if you think she was into you but since you dont have her number just message her on facebook about hanging out. If she is actually into you she wont care if its through phone or facebook she will be happy that you are interested. That's actually exactly how I ended up with this one girl last semester for a bit.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

RE: friendzone

Whatever you want to call it, it definitely exists. That situation where a guy likes a girl but just lingers around in the hope that she'll one day "love" him? And instead of being bold he watches her hook up with other guys and then comforts her when she experiences relationship woes?

Or, the girl who secretly likes a guy but decides to wait for him to make a move. And while she's waiting he's hitting on other women. Friendzone or not, it exists. The only time it doesn't exist is if you're either with the person involved or you're just friends and you're actually content with it. But I mean truly content.

Yeah, these scenarios exist. People are trying to get rid of the term friendzone because it puts the responsibility on the woman, as if she's done something wrong to the man. "She friendzoned me" when really he friendzoned himself. It's not like we say the guy relationshipzoned the girl because he doesn't want to just be friends.

We should just start calling it a dude being a manipulative wuss, really.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

Liu Kang is right.


So much of all this is our own ego. We have to realize it for what it is. When it call comes down to it, we want to hubble and dance around what is really going on: that we are butthurt over a person doesn't want the D (from us). No more, no less.


But that's not how we operate. But we should. With lots of green tea, meditation of Shinead O'Connor CD's we might one day control our feelings.

 

[Servbot24]

There's nothing wrong with the definition of the word "friendzone", it's just that it is often used by twats and thus has that bad connotation.

 

[MogCakes]

Yeah, these scenarios exist. People are trying to get rid of the term friendzone because it puts the responsibility on the woman, as if she's done something wrong to the man. "She friendzoned me" when really he friendzoned himself. It's not like we say the guy relationshipzoned the girl because he doesn't want to just be friends.

We should just start calling it a dude being a manipulative wuss, really.

That presumes all men are responsible for their own 'friendzoning' which isn't true. The term 'friendzone' doesn't carry notations of responsibility on either party, it is a noun and name for a category of relationships (for example girl likes guy but the romantic feeling isn't mutual; she's in the friendzone). People who attach that qualifier of responsibility to the term do so of their own accord, it is not inherently part of the word. Semantics!

With lots of green tea, meditation of Shinead O'Connor CD's we might one day control our feelings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox5FWGiEVN8

 

[Prologue]

Spent four months talking a girl on okcupid, no rush. We had a lunch date a little over two weeks ago and that went well, with a 2nd date last week to a museum and that went really well. I was thinking of taking her to gokarts and a dine in movie theater for val but maybe I should just save the gokarts for another another date if there is one?

 

[Kopite]

Serious question for everyone in this thread,

Have any of you experienced some extremely random negative behavior?

For example, talking to a guy or girl and the conversation is going well questions are being asked and interests are being connected, seemingly the person is interested...then all of a sudden they make a rude comment or negative remark that was never instigated by you, like it came out of nowhere.

I have done online dating for a while and have not experienced this so frequently.

Is anyone able to tell me what that is about?

Don't know how true this is but I read a dating book recently where the author believes women to subconsciously test you. One of the two tests is a congruence test, where a woman usually insults you in some way to test if you're actually as confident as you seem to be. Apparently the best way to counter this is to ignore it and act like she didn't say anything.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Don't know how true this is but I read a dating book recently where the author believes women to subconsciously test you. One of the two tests is a congruence test, where a woman usually insults you in some way to test if you're actually as confident as you seem to be. Apparently the best way to counter this is to ignore it and act like she didn't say anything.

Was it some PUA book or is it something legit?

 

[CygnusXS]

I always end up overcomplicating things, but yeah in your situation if you think she was into you but since you dont have her number just message her on facebook about hanging out. If she is actually into you she wont care if its through phone or facebook she will be happy that you are interested. That's actually exactly how I ended up with this one girl last semester for a bit.

I just want to tell you that your avatar is the single most beautiful thing that I have ever seen.

 

[Anticitizen One]

Was it some PUA book or is it something legit?

I'm pretty sure that is from "The Mystery Method: How to get beautiful women into bed" by Mystery

 

[HappyBivouac]

Serious question for everyone in this thread,

Have any of you experienced some extremely random negative behavior?

For example, talking to a guy or girl and the conversation is going well questions are being asked and interests are being connected, seemingly the person is interested...then all of a sudden they make a rude comment or negative remark that was never instigated by you, like it came out of nowhere.

I have done online dating for a while and have not experienced this so frequently.

Is anyone able to tell me what that is about?

Depends on the comment. A lot of people, myself included, will make friendly jabs at a person as sort of an indicator of closeness. I guess the subconscious idea is that a close friend will understand that it's just a dumb joke and not to be taken seriously, and that they should in turn sling some shit back at me. I would basically never insult someone who wasn't a friend, if that makes sense. The problem with this tendency is it really backfires when misunderstood.

Not saying that's what happened here. Kind of hard to say without the full story.

 

[electricshake]

Any girls here have recommendations for birth control other than the pill? GF says she doesn't feel good with the pill. With condoms, I can lose sensation after 10-15 minutes or so, which can make things frustrating sometimes.

Which type of pill is she on? There are two kinds, the combined pill which has estrogen and progestogen, and the mini pill which is progestogen only. I greatly preferred the combined pill but it gave me migraines so I had to stop taking it. I find the mini pill makes me a lot more emotionally unstable. If she doesn't like how the pill she's on makes her feel, she could try the other kind. The injection and the implant are both progestogen only as well so will have the same side effects. Other option is a coil/IUD.

 

[Kopite]

Was it some PUA book or is it something legit?

It's from Tao of Badass. Not a PUA book. I think I actually asked about it some time back and Minamu thought that some of the content was useful.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

The best reaction to any kind of "test" is to keep your composure and not show you're put off. Roll with it! If youre getting invested and worried about shit tests, your priorities are off anyway. Not only will you be overthinking shit but your actions won't be natural. Here's another fun fact. Someone who constantly feels they need to test your meddle is probably insecure themselves.

Stay fun, light and don't overreact. Especially in the face of silly tests. The only winning move is not to play.

 

[Minamu]

It's from Tao of Badass. Not a PUA book. I think I actually asked about it some time back and Minamu thought that some of the content was useful.

I don't think I've recommended Tao of Badass, because I don't think I've read it myself I do have it though somewhere around here. I would assume it is PUA related but as with all things, a critical eye is needed to see what information is suitable for you personally. There are good things in both Tao (I assume) and the Mystery Method, his video series is golden imho, you just gotta sift through the garbage that you don't like. In the case of Mystery Method though, I do think it's presented in a very factual way, it's just that some people can't handle it. To each his own, anything can be misinterpreted or abused for personal gains no matter what the original motivation of the info was. PUA gets a lot of flack to this day but I still don't think that is an inherent flaw of the PUA info per se.

 

[Kopite]

I don't think I've recommended Tao of Badass, because I don't think I've read it myself I do have it though somewhere around here. I would assume it is PUA related but as with all things, a critical eye is needed to see what information is suitable for you personally. There are good things in both Tao (I assume) and the Mystery Method, his video series is golden imho, you just gotta sift through the garbage that you don't like. In the case of Mystery Method though, I do think it's presented in a very factual way, it's just that some people can't handle it. To each his own, anything can be misinterpreted or abused for personal gains no matter what the original motivation of the info was. PUA gets a lot of flack to this day but I still don't think that is an inherent flaw of the PUA info per se.

Ah apologies then. Must have confused you with someone else

 

[Servbot24]

Everything is a sign If you don't see a sign, make your own.

another chance thursday night

 

[Minamu]

Ah apologies then. Must have confused you with someone else

It's okay, lemme know if it's good

another chance thursday night

Indeed

 

[gugi40]

Don't know how true this is but I read a dating book recently where the author believes women to subconsciously test you. One of the two tests is a congruence test, where a woman usually insults you in some way to test if you're actually as confident as you seem to be. Apparently the best way to counter this is to ignore it and act like she didn't say anything.

As a woman I can say with confidence I have never done that, but do guys do the same thing? I would imagine people would want to be as nice to their potential prospect as possible...at least that's how I go about it, then comes their supremely random negativity. Maybe they just get bored that I am not asking to S their D, but I do give many compliments so I don't know anymore.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

As a woman I can say with confidence I have never done that, but do guys do the same thing? I would imagine people would want to be as nice to their potential prospect as possible...at least that's how I go about it, then comes their supremely random negativity. Maybe they just get bored that I am not asking to S their D, but I do give many compliments so I don't know anymore.

If someone does that, I classify them as a shithead and have no interest. I don't have time for mind games, and anyone entertaining that kind of bullshit test, sorry, I'm just not into it.

 

[Servbot24]

If someone does that, I classify them as a shithead and have no interest. I don't have time for mind games, and anyone entertaining that kind of bullshit test, sorry, I'm just not into it.

Everyone "tests" their potential partner in some way. Otherwise there's not much of a filter for who you'll be with.