shinobi602
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Been told you guys will be waiting a little while. Full gameplay reveal at E3.
The Order 1886 Gameplay Footage
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Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
It's not about harshing buzz (at least not for me) but it's kind of silly to actually put things like a flat wall texture out there as primary criticism and not acknowledge the amazing animation or physics. This cloth stuff is really groundbreaking. It's rare to see. I think, deserves acknowledgement. The lighting and models... it's incredibly impressive.
Because it has about as much atmosphere as a shoping channel commercial?? And when atmosphere is a big element of your game it doesn't work all that well now does it. Great if you're an open world game with lots of menial tasks to do and explain. Not so great if you're not.
Gaf doesn't play games, just console wars
HORRORSHØW
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so many Ryse comments. can we get Senjutsu to go hard in the paint for The Order?
Than they probably should have focused on showing the graphics. Trying to talk up the qte moment didn't do them any favors
Always-honest
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Ah, okay thanx. Well, make it Great
No, calling Sony's marketing pathetic is pretty apt. Has been for years. People are excited for their stuff but they never manage to show them off correctly with few exceptions.
Even if you don't offer as much as GTAV, the style of trailer can work for any game of any type anywhere.
Umm they did focus on that.
Any chance of them showcasing some of the physics before then? I'd love to see some of the stuff the press saw at E3 last year that was showcasing the engine.
swazzyswess
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Yeah, it's almost like these things released by companies solely to allow gamers to form an initial impression of a game are causing gamers to form an initial impression of a game.
Well that was obvious.
I'm not one to bitch about this kind of stuff, but does Titanfall have to be brought up in every single fucking PlayStation 4 game thread? The inFAMOUS: Second Son details thread also had Titanfall mentioned over, and over, and over again.
I don't have a problem with TF, and thinks it looks pretty cool (just not my cup of tea), but god damn, it's like all everyone talks about, in particular in PS4 game threads. YES, I've seen Titanfall. Enough already! /half-serious rant.
When it comes to gaming and originality, that is low priority to how fun and enjoyable the game is for me, personally. I don't need every game to reinvent the gaming wheel, and sometimes, I just want a fun game. Third person shooters are hardly as rampant as FPSes, but even moreso, gothic Steampunk themed games are also in short supply. The theme and setting of The Order is incredibly intriguing to me. The originality/generic argument feels incredibly subjective, not to mention biased, in that usually the game having that criticism thrown at it is in a genre with a much more popular game that doesn't suffer from the same criticism, even when it's not the originator of the genre.
After playing something like The Last of Us, a linear, cinematic, third person shooter set in Victorian London with a supernatural bent sounds fuckity fuck awesome. Not every game needs to be a sprawling open world full of procedurally generated content to be good. I love those games as well, but it's clear RaD has a vision for this game, and it's shaping up rather nicely.
I admit I don't know much about Titanfall (since I don't follow games I have no interest in), but the little bit I've seen of it from a gameplay trailer looks pretty fun, especially for people that like competitive multi-player (I'm not a fan of MP, to be honest). I don't think it's particularly original or breaking new ground just because it has mechs, but I don't see why it needs to be as long as it's fun.
I don't have a problem with TF, and thinks it looks pretty cool (just not my cup of tea), but god damn, it's like all everyone talks about, in particular in PS4 game threads. YES, I've seen Titanfall. Enough already! /half-serious rant.
When it comes to gaming and originality, that is low priority to how fun and enjoyable the game is for me, personally. I don't need every game to reinvent the gaming wheel, and sometimes, I just want a fun game. Third person shooters are hardly as rampant as FPSes, but even moreso, gothic Steampunk themed games are also in short supply. The theme and setting of The Order is incredibly intriguing to me. The originality/generic argument feels incredibly subjective, not to mention biased, in that usually the game having that criticism thrown at it is in a genre with a much more popular game that doesn't suffer from the same criticism, even when it's not the originator of the genre.
After playing something like The Last of Us, a linear, cinematic, third person shooter set in Victorian London with a supernatural bent sounds fuckity fuck awesome. Not every game needs to be a sprawling open world full of procedurally generated content to be good. I love those games as well, but it's clear RaD has a vision for this game, and it's shaping up rather nicely.
I admit I don't know much about Titanfall (since I don't follow games I have no interest in), but the little bit I've seen of it from a gameplay trailer looks pretty fun, especially for people that like competitive multi-player (I'm not a fan of MP, to be honest). I don't think it's particularly original or breaking new ground just because it has mechs, but I don't see why it needs to be as long as it's fun.
Looks rather like a 60 dollar movie then a game.IAmRandom31
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Thank you for that. I was saying that earlier. The initial knee jerk reaction to The Last of Us was nearly identical to this. A bunch of people going way overboard with the generalization of how the game will be or trying to make a final judgement based on .000000001% of the product being shown.
Fully expected. This was just a small tease to let people know last E3 was not a CG movie trailer lol.
Hey, could you possibly try and find out if these videos will be uploaded onto PSN? I love watching videos on PSN at full HD. I don't know how many times I have sat back and kicked on the 3 amazing Destiny videos up on PSN and just gawked at the whole thing.
It's just so amazing the totality of the package they've put together visually. And I actually like the way the game looks at the 2.40:1 ratio, whether it was used to up the technical might or not. Since it's all native, it still looks super crisp, but there is something to be said about the way the action plays out at that size.
This is the type of game I'll pick up and probably enjoy as a visual feast for my eyes even if I don't buy into the gameplay in the end. Although I'll wager I'll know more about how much I should anticipate once we find out about the destruction.
This is the type of game I'll pick up and probably enjoy as a visual feast for my eyes even if I don't buy into the gameplay in the end. Although I'll wager I'll know more about how much I should anticipate once we find out about the destruction.
NullPointer
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Good to know. I'm sure they'll manage to do better by then.
Until then I'm going to assume the point of the trailer was this:
So, basically (basically awesome):
Gotta admit, my gut kept giving me Max Payne 3 vibes watching this footage. I know that probably sounds weird, but I mean it in terms of cinematic approach.
Oh I agree. Really bad gameplay reveal for this game. If they weren't ready to bring the big guns, then they shouldn't show gameplay until they are. It needs to make a big impression on people.
shinobi602
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Pretty much, this was more of a "graphics reveal" than gameplay.
You can show graphics without showing direct gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpNV3V_-9h4
This was just an very odd way of revealing the gameplay
People complaining of gameplay? There is enough footage to understand the style of gameplay and what they are trying to achieve. If your expecting fast action packed pace around the clock then this game is probably not for you.
Use your brain a bit. Too many kids around GAF these days.
Use your brain a bit. Too many kids around GAF these days.
funkystudent
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Thats some narrow level design.
swazzyswess
Member
No, it was not identical. Go through that whole thread and see what percentage of people were let down by TLOU's reveal (the one that included gameplay footage) compared to The Order so far.
Not sure i agree. Max payne could have done with a cinematic trailer more so then a run-through of it's gimmicks. I think it works when you have too much to show in a very short time frame (see: open world GTA games) but for a basic third person shooter with bullet time it's a bit...Needless.
That's pretty interesting. The game was announced last E3 right? That's like..."hey check out this game! stay tuned until next E3 for a full gameplay reveal!"
Dunno, just seems weird to me. I'm sure others have done the same though.
FFXV.
Coolade
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Reading those posts now is hilarious !
luca_29_bg
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guys but the event in london was a demo long 40 minutes, for the press ?
RedAssedApe
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if the gameplay reaches Max Payne 3 levels...hrnnng
Marc
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So what... exactly? Are you supposed to ignore it, are people not allowed to comment? And why is it if you get a positive view of those "15 seconds" it is acceptable? Don't see you quoting people saying its the best thing since sliced bread telling them to stop jumping to conclusions.
Very odd, positive stuff is all good, negative stuff... wait until the game is out FFS or for 15 minutes of footage at least.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, it always looked more exciting in trailers. Overall, found the game to be pretty mediocre. Max is moany bugger.
Did he mention Titanfall?
DragoonKain
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I didn't follow rumors or anything leading up to this, so this is the first I've seen that it is a third person shooter. I think visually it looks great, but I am so tired of third person shooters at this point. Especially ones that rely on a cover-based system. I hope it offers something unique in gameplay.
BadAss2961
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But you still have a number of people with identical criticisms of both games.
demosthenes
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Not once.
BotoxAgent
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ReplacementPelican
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Well if the gameplay doesn't look amazing then how would it lend itself to multiplayer?
GameSeeker
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That would be a good thing, given how bad the marketing was around today's reveal.
If RAD is not ready for full gameplay reveal at E3, better to wait for Gamescom or TGS and do it correctly.
vpance
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Open world JRPG platformer would be Gaf's favorite new IP. 1886 is pretty much the opposite of that, so this thread makes sense.
IAmRandom31
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2 farts are not identical either, but they both are still farts.
Whether TLOU had a 60/40 ratio or it had a 70/30 or whatever, what I mean is when people are knee jerking, it was exactly the same type of thing.
Too scripted
Looks like your typical shooter
looked like a movie not a game
Yadda yadda. Same type of thing. I mean the comparisons to Ryse and Heavy Rain and absolutely hilarious considering we saw a single button press on a single combat sequence and that single button press was the only interaction seen. Was not like you were moving the stick around to make your character strike like Heavy Rain, or there was combo button presses like GoW. Just a single button hit.
But because of that single button hit, the game is a Heavy Rain or Ryse clone. Because we only saw a fight inside an alleyway, the game is now a corridor shooter ( ignoring the E3 trailer in a wide open city square ). Because of a few cinematics showcasing the best graphics engine yet seen .. the game is just a long interactive movie.
Same thing.
Oppo
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The gameplay isn't even 2 minutes, it's like 10 seconds. If you're just counting the shooting section. He shoots like 2 guys and that is the entirity of it. What is shown is certainly uninteresting, it is just the standard go into cover and shoot a guy, but when that very little section of gameplay is all that is shown, it is very hard to actually get a sense of how the game will actually play. It's that lack of context from people. How 10 seconds of gameplay footage is enough for them to judge the entire game is beyond me. Which itself isn't even finished.
It's so short that it is like judging a character running on screen and nothing more. How can you judge a game based on that? Well you can't it's just a character running on screen. In the actual footage the character runs to some cover and shoots a guy. It could be that the whole game is just running into cover and shooting the same guy over and over again in the same fashion in the most uninteresting monotonous game ever. It's fairly unlikely however, what was shown is anywhere near the most interesting aspect of gameplay in the game.
This is something I have been curious about too. It is a TPS. Surely you would expect that actual shooting would take place in a TPS. How would you make shooting a gun more next-gen than simply just going into cover and shooting a gun? What amazing new mechanic would you need to make that gun shooting next-gen?
Not that I wouldn't want something interesting a new. I imagine it would be very difficult to come with something that hasn't been done before though.
LightofRohan
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So, basically (basically awesome):
Gotta admit, my gut kept giving me Max Payne 3 vibes watching this footage. I know that probably sounds weird, but I mean it in terms of cinematic approach.
That scene was so awesome. It is too bad you have to wait through a literally 6 minute cutscene every time to play it...
Is there any Max Payne 3 mods out that is just pure gameplay scenarios?