Diprosalic
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That's really easy.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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That's really easy.
DisconnectD
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So with DK & Bowser both being a lot more powerful in Sm4sh, does anyone else think that Ganondorf finally has a real chance of being revamped and made viable this time around?
Will be hard since Palutena's Temple already HAS been revealed
Sakurai really hasn't been catering to some of his creations' anniversaries. He even shrugged off the anniversary of Smash 64, which I thought would've been a great day to show off something cool to celebrate the day the original came out and why most all of us are fans today. I'm not expecting anything significant, but it would be nice to be proven wrong.
Will be hard since Palutena's Temple already HAS been revealed
Oh I meant like a full reveal. He teased it like he did the Mario Galaxy stage last year.
New moveset hopefully.
DisconnectD
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Mr. Sakurai. Always the humble one. The most I would expect if anything is for him to actually show the entirety of the Wii U Kid Icarus stage but I doubt it.
I'm thinking they will probably save her for E3.
Weird way of spelling Yoshi.
Hades?
IdolM@ster?
Yeah, I'm totally thinking that as well
theprodigy
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The day Yoshi finally gets revealed will be a joyous day
So Happy :3
Maybe Sakurai will actually make Yoshi good this time.
DisconnectD
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Maybe we will actually get black and white Yoshi alts and he will be good this time!
One miracle at a time.
How can Yoshi be buffed though? I've played a little bit of Yoshi in Melee and always felt like he was lacking but never really thought of a way to buff him. He deserves to be though.
Hmm? Look like P - A - N - D - O - R - A.... Not much of a surpriae.
He's smash attacks should be stronger.
DisconnectD
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As much as I respect Diddy, I hope the beginning of the week isn't just him. New stage pls
foxuzamaki
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I woudnt put kid icarus in the same category as the smash 64 thing...
theprodigy
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....that does nothing to help Yoshi
DisconnectD
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For starters, his Egg roll shouldn't be absolutely abysmal crap.
Goldensun_it
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Yes it does, it'll make his smash attacks stronger.
I personally hate his recovery, it's not bad, it's more I'm not a pure vertical recovery type of guy and I seem to always forget about his lack of a B+up recovery
DisconnectD
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I feel like Yoshi needs Super armor for some of his moves, since he doesn't have any good approach moves.
TheLegendOfCap
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Easy. I'll do a new franchise and two much deserved additions to already included franchises.
Chibi-Robo
Ridley
Palutena
theprodigy
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that's the equivalent of giving Link's dair meteor smash properties, it's a buff that does nothing to address the underlying problem
edit:
....yeah I don't think you know what you're talking about
Excuse my ignorance but what do you mean by "approach moves".
oreomunsta
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He doesn't need it, his eggs give him tons of damage and mix ups and his Down smash has high priority.
He can approach and mix up with his double jump cancels as his flutter jump gives super armor.
The only thing Yoshi really needs is more priority on some of his moves.
His egg roll doesn't matter because a good amount of the cast have useless or situational specials anyway.
You can give him a different side-b but it's not like a new one would significantly make him better.
If we're talking Brawl Yoshi, he's a 50/50 matchup against Meta Knight.
Really he's not a bad character like the rest of the cast if people actually sat down and learned him.
There lies the problem, you have this competitive view of why Yoshi sucks. While I just see him as a character with weak attacks.
DisconnectD
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Np: it means he doesn't have any effective or safe way to close the gap between himself and an opponent. Much like Metaknight sort of, but MK has like a shit load of tools to make up for that and he is incredibly fast and has insane priority for all of his moves, etc.
Yoshi needs better aerials so he can close that gap without being punished for attempting it.
Akibastman
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tonyh24613
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Wonder if we're going to see something like "Pic of the day, this is DDD's up B, it can now move more horizontally".
The12thGripper
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I trust that E3 list with my heart, so Pac-Man and Mii are already in.
My picks are:
Chibi-Robo
Chrom & Robin
Dillion
theprodigy
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.....WHAT?!?
Out of curiosity, which characters have good approach moves competitively? I want to say Marth b/c of his speed+damage is greatest at the tip of his sword, but I'm not too well versed here
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
So, how would you guys react if Smash 4 had an "Edition Select" like what was just revealed for the new SFIV, i.e. you could choose 64 Mario, Melee Mario, Brawl Mario, and 4 Mario (graphically though they'd look the same basically, not actually the 64 model).
Obviously this is way too much work and won't happen, but hypothetically.
Obviously this is way too much work and won't happen, but hypothetically.
solomon
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Ridely - I have a strong feeling he will be in the game and honestly would be a cool pick.
Palutena- same as above
Shulk- Naw don't see this one happening
Chrom- I say yes to this but sadly I see Mii's getting in.
Mii- statement above sadly.
Pac-Man- eww, such a bland character. Namco have much better choices.
Mewtwo- Most people crying for Mewtwo to return will play him for a week notice he is still ass (unless you put in work, most people don"t) and drop him, just like in melee.
Chibi-Robo- nope
Hades- nope
Wonder Red- slim chance but for now no.
Dillion- no
Slime- no
Prof.Layton- no
Waluigi- is on that spectator life.
Palutena- same as above
Shulk- Naw don't see this one happening
Chrom- I say yes to this but sadly I see Mii's getting in.
Mii- statement above sadly.
Pac-Man- eww, such a bland character. Namco have much better choices.
Mewtwo- Most people crying for Mewtwo to return will play him for a week notice he is still ass (unless you put in work, most people don"t) and drop him, just like in melee.
Chibi-Robo- nope
Hades- nope
Wonder Red- slim chance but for now no.
Dillion- no
Slime- no
Prof.Layton- no
Waluigi- is on that spectator life.
DisconnectD
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Dude, approaching with aerials with MK is not his strongsuit, ask anybody. His aerials are very good but Brawls lack of momentum conservation and low air drift makes it difficult.
Marth is a spacing character and he's one of the easier characters to learn to play.
There's no universal way to approach someone, you learn your matchups and you work from there.
You wouldn't approach a Jigglypuff the same way you'd approach a Bowser if you were playing Marth.
If you want to learn how to approach a character, figure out your best tools. For Marth it's his sweet spot and his spacing, for Falcon it's dash dancing and taking advantage of grabs and stomps.
You just need to get in there and pull the momentum onto your side. Instead of turtling, go up and rush your opponent down. Take advantage of your lasers and your turnips to get your opponent into stun and capitalize that by starting a combo.
Rolling, dodging towards them is a means of approaching.
Do what works best for you and the character you play against as there is no universal approach for any character.
theprodigy
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you're crazy
that's a -2 matchup
just because he's better at other things doesn't make his approaches bad
I stopped following Brawl after the first couple years and from when I remember, Yoshi was considered an even match up compared to the rest of the cast.
Now Pikachu would be considered 50/50 since the metagame has changed.