Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi

In all seriousness, I don't think there's a particular character that SmashGAF would outright hate. Maybe Goku simply because of how ridiculous the requests for him are and it would just seem stupid. But even then, I would just laugh if he was included

Sure there is. Krystal
 
Brawl has the best soundtrack of any game, ever, bar none, period. It cheated maybe since the music came in with the baggage I had already given it, but best ever.

I have extremely high hopes for 4. I will be very let down if it isn't amazing.


Also, nearly every level in dktf could be a stage. I would probably most like the tornado.
 
Can Capcom let Nintendo use Marvel vs Capcom Mega Man themes and music from Mega Man Legends and what not.

I want Roll's Theme, 風よ伝えて, to be in the game.
Same with Glyde's Theme from Mega Man Legends.
Prismatic from MegaMan Zero 3 as well.

I don't care if the vocals are in or not but each stage deserves a melodic song rather than a repeat of Boss/Wily themes.

I liked what they did with Distant Planet but each stage should get a variety of music and not stuff that's mashed together just cause like we see in the F-Zero stages.

I'd like to see jazzy themes as well.

If Snake/Lin is in the game, I'd also like the tranquilizer to be a move instead of the nikita. It's just so useful. Stickies should also not be transferrable for Snake's C4s and he should have more CQC moves. It'd be cool if he piloted a Metal Gear for a new Final Smash like how he was going to near the end of Peace Walker.

Project M Snake is such a great utility character and I love playing on Skyworld and Smashville since my down smash is invisible. Other than that I really wouldn't change anything with Snake.

Seeing the changes with ledge mechanics, what are your thoughts on how sweet spotting will work? Characters like Pikachu rely immensely on sweetspotting the ledge when recovering.
 
I think most people are indifferent with the thought of Pac-Man being included and just don't want a bad design of Pac-Man to be in the game.

Yeah, that's the general consensus SmashGaf has reached after debating over Pacs so many times. Personally, I'd prefer him to not be in the game - I hate that yellow Gobstopper.

However, there are many good reasons for his inclusion and there are a fairly substantial amount of people who'd like him in, so he should be in. I'll just cover his face up with sticky notes on the tv when at the character select screen =p
 
Sure there is. Krystal

Krystal's in my current top five for most-wanted newcomers and I continue to not understand the hate regarding her. I think she'd be an interesting addition with her staff and telepathic powers... certainly more interesting than Wolf, AKA Fox 2.5.

If her being an oversexualized anthropomorphic female fox thing is an area of concern, just put her in her more conservative outfits from Star Fox Assault and/or Command instead of her Adventures outfit. Problem solved.
 
Can Capcom let Nintendo use Marvel vs Capcom Mega Man themes and music from Mega Man Legends and what not.

I want Roll's Theme, 風よ伝えて, to be in the game.
Same with Glyde's Theme from Mega Man Legends.
Prismatic from MegaMan Zero 3 as well.

I don't care if the vocals are in or not but each stage deserves a melodic song rather than a repeat of Boss/Wily themes.

I liked what they did with Distant Planet but each stage should get a variety of music and not stuff that's mashed together just cause like we see in the F-Zero stages.

I'd like to see jazzy themes as well.

If Snake/Lin is in the game, I'd also like the tranquilizer to be a move instead of the nikita. It's just so useful. Stickies should also not be transferrable for Snake's C4s and he should have more CQC moves. It'd be cool if he piloted a Metal Gear for a new Final Smash like how he was going to near the end of Peace Walker.

Project M Snake is such a great utility character and I love playing on Skyworld and Smashville since my down smash is invisible. Other than that I really wouldn't change anything with Snake.

Seeing the changes with ledge mechanics, what are your thoughts on how sweet spotting will work? Characters like Pikachu rely immensely on sweetspotting the ledge when recovering.




I honestly think it is a time will tell scenario. We just don't know enough about the new mechanics for ledges and what sakurai told us is pretty vague. I for one hope the changes give more importance to the ledge game.
 
While on the subject of amazing composers, I'd like to say that Yoko Shimomura is my personal favourite =3 However, I can't really think of a good enough reason why her music should show up in smash other than "cuz it's soo gud"
Shimomura composed the Mario and Luigi series! :3 There is hope yet!
=O .... you're right.... and looking at her Wikipedia page... she's already worked on Brawl!!

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She also did a fair chunk of Xenoblade's soundtrack (including the title theme, "Colony 9"/"Night", "Hometown"/"Night", "Time to Fight", "Unfinished Battle"... those last two most egregiously, since they sound like lost Kingdom Hearts tracks).

In all seriousness, I don't think there's a particular character that SmashGAF would outright hate. Maybe Goku simply because of how ridiculous the requests for him are and it would just seem stupid. But even then, I would just laugh if he was included
Sure there is. Krystal
Also Geno.

I want both of them, if only to spite those who don't.
 
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I would contribute to the rage. I'd rather them take out some other character than corrupt it with partially available characters right off the bat, regardless of who they are. They could announce downloadable Ridley, I'd still be annoying.

And yes, I'm aware I'm being ridiculous. Don't even really care.
 
For Brawl I sorta wanted Geno since he'd represent the RPG spin-off of games, had moveset potential and most of the other likely Mario newcomers sounded really boring.

Now that we have Rosalina he's sort of pointless, though I'd be lying if I wouldn't still dig him somehow popping up somewhere in the game, though I'd expect Fawful/Paper Mario partners as well. I agree that the fanbase he brings with him is sort of awful though.

Same thing with Krystal, who I similarly would've chosen over Wolf pre-Brawl for moveset potential but since she wasn't, she'd be overkill if they kept the previous 3 in SSB4 and there's no point scrapping a perfectly legit and fun character for someone else
who will probably be retconned out of existence if/when Starfox gets rebooted anyway.

Goes without saying anime/superhero demands on Miiverse are simultaneously hilarious and awful. Secondary Sonic characters requests only slightly less so, and I say this as a (sorta) fan of that series.
 
Krystal's in my current top five for most-wanted newcomers and I continue to not understand the hate regarding her. I think she'd be an interesting addition with her staff and telekinetic powers... certainly more interesting than Wolf, AKA Fox 2.5.

insert boothisman.gif =/

You're right that Wolf isn't as interesting as he, a newcomer, could have been. I do like the option of a "weightier", heavy-hitting space animal, though

She also did a fair chunk of Xenoblade's soundtrack (including the title theme, "Colony 9"/"Night", "Hometown"/"Night", "Time to Fight", "Unfinished Battle"... those last two most egregiously, since they sound like lost Kingdom Hearts tracks).

Oh wow. I haven't played Xenogears, but these are great!
 
Geno is a character I love but know we'll never see again and it makes me sad

I seriously doubt that we will get him since his chance is pretty much zero.

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I'm pretty sure Krystal would play like a cross between Fox and Zero Suit Samus if she was playable. The staff only appears in one game -- the least Star Fox-y entry in the series -- and Krystal barely uses it.

With that said, Smash Bros. already has three Star Fox characters, and it's not getting a fourth.
 
Geno and Krystal would be perfect AT's going off the logic behind Ashely/Skullkid/Waluigi TBH, though I question if Sakurai would go to the effort of buying the SMRPG character-rights just for such a small cameo. Superstar Saga's devs could be bothered to do so for even less I guess.
 
Nonono, only Yasunori Mitsuda (of Chrono Trigger fame) did Xenogears. (Technically he did the credits theme for Xenoblade, too, but I've never listened to it; I want to reach the credits myself.)

And yes, Xenoblade's soundtrack is awesome. For not-Yoko Shimomura awesomeness, this is the best track in the game.

Oh derp >< You're right. Having not played the game makes it kind of easy to interchange the two series' names. Can definitely see why Gaur Plains would be a contender for the best song in the game! Given the right environment and pacing, it seems like this would be like listening to Gerudo Valley for the first time all over again
 
Who needs Geno when you have Japan's Ridley, Tiki.

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Plus Lin, best Days of Ruin character.

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Now lets apply sakuray crazyness and make Tiki takes double knockback from marth and chrom :P
 
I have a feeling combos will feature heavily in sm4sh, based on what we know and have seen so far. Obviously conjecture, but still sticking to it.
 
If you're not into Dragons I guess Rabbits can scratch that itch.

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into this

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btw, for some reason Geno reminds me of Digimon. I remember seeing something similar but I can't put my finger on it.

Digimon in Smash, Digimon in Pokken. ReDigitize for 3DS.
 
If you're not into Dragons I guess Rabbits can scratch that itch.

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into this

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btw, for some reason Geno reminds me of Digimon. I remember seeing something similar but I can't put my finger on it.

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Wouldn't mind her or yarne lol.

And you're thinking of that pinnicco digimon. pinocchimon
 
I hope we see Ness and Captain Falcon soon. I'm getting antsy about them.

No kidding! Wonder why Sakurai has held them back if they've been around since Smash 64. He's only done that with characters who have new games coming out...oh my... F-Zero/Mother crossover confirmed!

Ness goes off to investigate a meteor that has crashed near his house in the middle of the night. Upon inspecting the smoldering wreckage, he notices the meteor resembles some sort of vehicle from a science-fiction movie. The vehicle is blue in tinge and has it's cockpit window intact. Ness approaches the window, step by step by step. Peering in through the glass, he sees a glowing fist-shaped object heading straight for the glass! A mighty "FFAALLCCOOOWWWNN PPPAAAUUNNCCHH!!!" comes from inside the ship and out bursts a human being through the glass! The tall, blue-clothed stranger peers down at Ness. However, Ness did not have to guess his name; somehow, he knew the stranger's name was Captain Falcon. Then they go solve mysteries in the Mystery Machine.

Did I do this fanfic stuff right?
 
Can Capcom let Nintendo use Marvel vs Capcom Mega Man themes and music from Mega Man Legends and what not.

I want Roll's Theme, &#39080;&#12424;&#20253;&#12360;&#12390;, to be in the game.
Same with Glyde's Theme from Mega Man Legends.
Prismatic from MegaMan Zero 3 as well.

I don't care if the vocals are in or not but each stage deserves a melodic song rather than a repeat of Boss/Wily themes.

Megaman music alone is the biggest reason why I hope Sakurai goes way over 10 to 12 tracks per stage. Seriously, the breadth and depth of excellent music this series has is impressive:

Classic Series: Cut Man Stage, Guts Man, Wily Castle Boss (MM1), Metal Man, Air Man, Flash Man, Wily Castle (MM2), Title (MM3), Shadow Man, Boss (MM3), Bright Man, Dr. Wily Stage 2 (MM4), Opening Stage (MM7), 8 Big Bosses (MM7), Bass' Theme (MM7), Stage Select (MM8), Tengu Man, Frost Man, Dr. Light's Lab, Astro Man, Search Man, Aqua Man, Wily Stage 1 (MM8), Opening Stage - The Robot Museum (Megaman & Bass), Boss (MM&B), King's Castle Stages (MM&B), EVERYTHING. IN. MEGAMAN. 9. (Specifically Concrete Man, Thunder Tornado, Splash Blue, Magma Burning, Galaxy Fantasy, Flash. In. The. [Motherfucking] Dark, We're The Robots, & Strange World), Future World (MM10), Menu (MM10), Blade Man, Pump Man, Commando Man, Nitro Man, Silent Rain (Wily Castle 1 Entrance) (MM10), Abandoned Memory (Wily Castle 1) (MM10), Against The Pressure (Wily Castle 2) (MM10), No Turning Back (Wily Stage 3), Deep In Space (Wily Stage 5) (MM10)

X Series: Broken Highway, Boomer Kuwanger, Launch Octopus, Sting Chameleon, Storm Eagle, Boss Theme, Flame Stag (MMX2), Bubble Crab (MMX2), Counter Hunter Stage 1 (MMX2), Opening Stage (MMX3), Zero (MMX3), Blast Hornet, Gravity Beetle, Toxic Seahorse, Doppler Stage 1, Opening Stage X (MMX4) Boss (MMX4), Double Boss Theme (MMX4), Boss (MMX5), X vs. Zero (MMX5), Blaze Heatnix (MMX6), Infinity Mijinion (MMX6), Gate's Laboratory Stage (MMX6), Noah's Park (MMX8), Ride Armor CYCLOPS (MMX8), VS 8 Bosses (MMX8), Jakob (MMX8) VS. Final Sigma, VS. Lumine (The Second Form)

Zero Series: Theme of ZERO (MMZ1 & MMX1), Infiltration, Crash, Enemy Hall, Neo Arcadia HQ, X The Legend, FAKE, For Endless Fight (MMZ1 & MMZ2), Area of ZERO ~ Main Theme of ZERO (Ending Theme), Departure (MMZ2), Ice Brain, Platinum, Gravity, Power Bomb (Bombing Mission), Combustion (Theme of Elpis), Cool Water, Passionate, Flash Back, Melt Down, Cool Hearted Fellow, The Cloudy Stone, Supreme Ruler (Elpizo Battle), Neo Arcadia March (Prologue MMZ3), Break Out (Opening Mission - Fallen Spaceship), Prismatic (Resistance Base) [One of my favorite bits of game music ever], Volcano (Agnis Volcano Base), For Endless Fight III (Neo Arcadia Ambush 1 - Twilight Desert), Infiltration II (Neo Arcadia Ambush 3 - Ice Front Line Base), Cold Smile (Energy Facility), Submerged Memory (Submerged Library), High-Speed Lift (Gigantic Elevator), Scrapped Beat (Boss Battle), Judgement Day (Omega Battle 2), Cannon Ball (Omega-Zero Battle), Caravan - Hope for Freedom - (Opening Stage MMZ4), Esperanto (Opening Stage 2 - Area Zero MMZ4),
, Magnetic Rumble (Mino Magnaxe Stage), Straight Ahead (Ragnarok Control Room Stage), Kraft (Theme of Kraft), Power Field (Kraft Battle), Ragnarok (Ragnarok Core - Final Stage), Nothing Beats (Boss Battle MMZ4), Falling Down (Final Battle MMZ4)

...you get the point.
Honestly, I just had to mandate a hard limit before I drove myself mad looking through Legends and EXE's good music. Also, "MMX7 never happened™". :lol
 
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Hey, even the shitpile that is Mega Man X7 can boast a couple of memorable songs... the opening theme, Flame Hyenard's stage, the battle with Red, and both final battle themes (especially the first one) are all pretty great. That's about it, though...

Great lists by the way, though I hope (and think) Sakurai will stick with Classic series tunes for any Mega Man music in Smash. I say this not because I don't love the music from the other series (I very much do!), but because people get the various Mega Mans confused enough as it is from a character standpoint... it's specifically the original Mega Man who's in Smash and not X, Zero, Trigger, MegaMan.EXE, or Shooting Star Mega Man, so it seems most appropriate to just include music from the various Mega Man Classic games in Smash.
 
Krystal's in my current top five for most-wanted newcomers and I continue to not understand the hate regarding her. I think she'd be an interesting addition with her staff and telepathic powers... certainly more interesting than Wolf, AKA Fox 2.5.

If her being an oversexualized anthropomorphic female fox thing is an area of concern, just put her in her more conservative outfits from Star Fox Assault and/or Command instead of her Adventures outfit. Problem solved.

But she didn't even use her staff and her psychic powers are barely elaborated.

Also how dare you call Wolf a Fox 2.5? Fox doesn't wear leatherman cowbow outfit and do werewolf attacks!
 
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