TacticalFox88
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I still hope Faora is still alive and can return from the Phantom zone
Captain America 3 to square off against Batman/Superman in 2016
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MisterHero
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Cap is riding on Avengers. Avengers viewers will see it even if just for a peek at Avengers 2/3.
Just because some people are talking like, "Captain AMERICA? But jingoistic propganda!!" doesn't mean Marvel can't eek out a good or amazing movie. Or that he isn't actually one of Marvel's top characters.
Zeyphersan
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I think the depressing truth is that Cap 3 will almost assuredly be a better film, but Bat/Supes will have more buzz/quite possible make more money.
I agree that I think it depends on the mainstream response of Cap 2 and Avengers 2. If both do gangbusters, the scale may tip towards Cap 3.
Now, I only really hang out with nerds, but what was the mainstream response to Man of Steel? Did it make a lot of money? Have some good press? I know critically it didn't do very well at all
Bobby Roberts
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It was discussed earlier in the thread, but mainstream response was overall positive. Not gushing, but it was generally liked. Critically it was about 50/50. It made 670 mil worldwide, which was a LITTLE light of what Warners was hoping for (around 750 mil worldwide or more).
MisterHero
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=superman.htm
I don't think this includes worldwide though. Man of Steel is on top there.
Razgriz-Specter
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Yes please,
I don't even care if they decide to stick her in to an eventual Wonder Woman movie.
She needs to come back, way better villain than Zod was.
Razgriz-Specter
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b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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MisterHero
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Zen_Arcade
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That fight scene was the best part of the movie.
BadAss2961
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Faora was definitely a standout. Her likeness in MoS has already been adapted in the comics.
She and Wonder Woman could easily carry a solo movie.
She and Wonder Woman could easily carry a solo movie.
Messypandas
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I wouldn't have minded if she were main adversary, considering Shannons lousy performance.
Razgriz-Specter
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Even something as small as that head turn at the first soldier.
Damn just an awesome intimidating character.
Zeyphersan
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Maybe I have to rewatch Man of Steel. Those gifs do look good, but I did not like that movie the first time around. At all.
Razgriz-Specter
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The movie? Eh it was low tier. Didn't hate it but didn't love it either.
Faora though(and her fight scene)? Loved everything about her.
Anticitizen One
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Green Lantern's Girlfriend (Carol Feris) is in the film. She's the one who smiles and says Supes is kinda cute at the end. There are also references to Aquaman, Booster Gold, Supergirl, and Wayne Enterprises.
Zeyphersan
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To be fair I probably won't rewatch it, unless it hits Netflix or something. The drive isn't that strong, mostly because I came out of the theater with bad impressions, that only got worse over time.
So they're making that Green Lantern movie canon? HA!
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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Not really... It's just the girl in MoS has the name of GL's GF. That could mean anything. It could even mean GL reboot incoming.
Was also the worst character in the avengers, sorry guys :-/ but a Capt America movie has no chance against batman/superman and I don't even like superman movies...
SonicMegaDrive
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Captain America is my favorite Marvel film to date and the second one looks amazing.
PhoncipleBone
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=superman.htm
I don't think this includes worldwide though. Man of Steel is on top there.
What is up with some recent movies' adjusted grosses actually going down? Noticed it on a few charts on there.
Discotheque
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black widow and hawkeye were worse. but yeah he looked like a fucking loser in avengers. until he teamed up with iron man in the end. that was his redeeming moment.
2 looks really fun though. no chance does captain america 3 beat world's finest unless the latter ends up being a disaster. but 2 already looks better than everything MCU except for Iron Man 3
Bobby Roberts
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I'm with this wholeheartedly. I fucking loved Captain America. Really fun movie.
Cap 3 has Cap 2+Avengers 2 behind, I'll be surprised if it doesn't do similar numbers to BvS.
Bobby Roberts
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You guys, what if Avengers 2 isn't great.
It's not a foregone conclusion, you know. Was talking with a friend about this other day - we were both excited to check out Cap 2, and he brought up "What happens if Whedon lays an egg with Avengers 2? Like, what happens to the cinematic universe at that point?"
(Not that I THINK that would happen, but it's a possibility. Whedon's been known to overreach before)
It's not a foregone conclusion, you know. Was talking with a friend about this other day - we were both excited to check out Cap 2, and he brought up "What happens if Whedon lays an egg with Avengers 2? Like, what happens to the cinematic universe at that point?"
(Not that I THINK that would happen, but it's a possibility. Whedon's been known to overreach before)
Zeyphersan
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Oh sorry, my bad. Didn't know that was just the character's name, thought it was her actress.
I probably should have googled that...
I think even if Avengers 2 sucks, it'll make its money back and still be financially successful, even if it doesn't make all the money in the world like Avengers 1 did. Plus, by this point, Phase Three movies (post-Avengers 2) should already be entering planning, so in the event that Avengers 2 is a relative flop, A) Phase Three isn't cancelled, and B) they have feedback to retool on.
One of them will change their date, I'm sure of it. They are both just holding their cards right now because nothing is known about Cap 3 yet and close to nothing is known about BvS. Lots of time for shuffling around. For two superhero films to launch on the same day is just madness on both sides and will hurt both films.
Bobby Roberts
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Them actually releasing on the same day isn't even a valid probability, really. Not enough screens, not enough exclusivity, too many deals would get fucked up. Warners will move World's Finest off that date. I can see them moving it back to June again, honestly. They like releasing their big bets in that month.
I think it's entirely possible that, should Guardians of the Galaxy land the way they're hoping, the hunger for cosmic Marvel might rush in to fill the void that a disappointing Avengers 2 might leave in its wake.
SonicMegaDrive
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Yeah. I actually really enjoyed each and every Marvel film for what it was, at least the first time watching them. But I think Cap 1 is the one that held up the best when I went back and rewatched it recently.
Mighty Chin
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Looking at these Faora gifs makes wonder. Did the Kryptonians even recognize that they now had powers? I don't remember.
TDLink
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In the unlikely event that happens, the MCU would still be strong enough to endure it I think. Marvel is making tons of money on each film they make at this point. By time A2 is released they will already have a few more too close to finished to call off...not to mention they wouldn't. One of these films is probably bound to fail at some point, possibly even an Avengers movie (though I doubt it), but they have proven that each of these franchises can stand on their own and make a lot of money. If GotG does well (which I expect) they also have the entire cosmic side of the MCU to mine.
Basically, if Avengers 2 fails nothing is going to change except possibly the budget for Avengers 3. But Avengers 2 has a near 0% chance of failing.
If Avengers 2 is a bad movie quality wise, people will still remember how good the other films were and continue to watch the ones they enjoy. Ie, people who enjoy Cap 2 are probably going to see Cap 3 regardless of what they think of A2.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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I think they acknowledge the effect of Earth's Sun to them. At least that's how it seems like in the movie.
I still would very much rather an actual Wonder Woman villain be used as the antagonist of any potential solo film - and I seem to be alone in this round these parts - but I wouldn't be mad at all if said WW villain used some magic to release Faora from the Phantom Zone.
I couldn't even follow the story line cause it was such a snooze. So much so that I didn't even understand when the tesseract was in the beginning of the avengers, I was like wtf is that and why was captain America linked to it?
Zeyphersan
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If you ask me, I think Guardians of the Galaxy has a much higher chance of failure than Avengers 2. Unknown group of people (no mainstream names for the general public to latch on to and go "Yeah, I know them!") combined with what seems to me like a more comedic and lighthearted approach, doesn't spell out great things. If they scaled back GotG's budget accordingly, it should be alright.
However, I've always been a big proponent of the idea that superhero films don't always have to be the same genre. You can have a superhero comedy (like GotG, or Ant-Man if that's supposed to be funny, it's directed by Edgar Wright), or a mystery film set in Gotham or something. I think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. had the right idea (if not questionable execution) that stories about things taking place in a world of superheroes, but not about those superheroes is ground currently unexplored.
But the main point: not every movie about superheroes needs to be a superhero action movie. I think doing some genre-bending could keep this bubble from bursting for a few more years.
MisterHero
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WB will consider it once Black Widow has had 3 solo movies.Faora will never have her own action spinoff.
I don't really care about BW in context of the Avengers
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Mighty Chin
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The theater really should have provided you with a connect the dots booklet.
MisterHero
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...prooobably not? It's not the same actress. Carol Ferris is a relatively major character in Hal Jordan's life in the comics. Her being in Man of Steel is just a nod to that character's existence.
That's literally the second scene in Captain America.
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