Who do you find more compelling? Big Boss or Solid Snake?
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JimmyRustler
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After MGS4 I can't believe how anyone could prefer Solid Snake. The game pretty much ruined him forever. He used to be such a cool bloke. RIP David. One can only hope that Big Boss won't follow the same faith with MGS5.
Punished_Snake
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I love both, but I relate to Big Boss more, he feels more human and his story is more interesting in my opinion. Also, without Big Boss there is no Solid Snake .
PetriP-TNT
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They are the same dude.
For those saying they're identical, Big Boss in MGS3 lets Ocelot live after many confrontations, citing his age and attitude are reason enough to let him live. Solid Snake would've capped Ocelot from the get go.
Where does this sentiment come from?
The bolded applies to Big Boss as well, hell, it applies to most of the characters in the MGS series.
Where does this sentiment come from?
The bolded applies to Big Boss as well, hell, it applies to most of the characters in the MGS series.
entremet
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So funny and kinda true.
Punished_Snake
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Maybe the same voice over, but the same character/personality? I don't think so.
Tidus_Great
Banned
did you even play MGS2 LOL?
It had the best story in the series and gave snake proper character development. MGS4 was the terrible story that screwed everything up.
Auron_Kale
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Solid Snake.
I get that Big Boss is a tragic hero and all but man did he ruin lives along the way. On the other hand, Solid was never supposed to exist but he at least tried to make a life for himself though could never really do so.
I get that Big Boss is a tragic hero and all but man did he ruin lives along the way. On the other hand, Solid was never supposed to exist but he at least tried to make a life for himself though could never really do so.
Jawmuncher
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Hell that ending kind of ruined MGS in general. Was so out of place even when you consider how out there MGS can get. I remember my first playthrough thinking the ending was going to amount to something else but NOPE
Palette Swap
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^^ yeah, that. Fuck that zero, math on meth bullshit.
Big Boss. Everything has become about him anyway, and his character arc seems more interesting, despite that terrible nonsensical scene in MGS4 that should have been the climax of the series.
Big Boss. Everything has become about him anyway, and his character arc seems more interesting, despite that terrible nonsensical scene in MGS4 that should have been the climax of the series.
keltickennedy
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Big Boss for me.
MGS3 and Peace Walker are my favorite games.
MGS3 and Peace Walker are my favorite games.
Mr.Marston
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Solid Snake. I really dislike how Kojima has switched the focus of the series to Big Boss.
Snake has starred in one MGS game since 1998.
Snake has starred in one MGS game since 1998.
Lightning4Ever
Banned
Solid Snake.
Wonder what he's been up to since MGS4.
Wonder what he's been up to since MGS4.
MaximoffZero
Banned
Big Boss, though it may just be because of the way the series treats him. We get to see him evolve from a soldier just following orders to a commander of a rogue army.
I also like how he starts as the protagonist of the story but becomes the antagonist later in the chronology. They need to have more stories like that in games (or in any medium really).
I also like how he starts as the protagonist of the story but becomes the antagonist later in the chronology. They need to have more stories like that in games (or in any medium really).
ColourRevolt
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Ironically, Metal Gear Solid 2 provides us a fairly detailed glimpse at Solid Snake's true character. Raiden wouldn't have made nearly as much headway throughout the second half of the plot if Solid Snake weren't there to pull a majority of the strings for him.
That said, why not both?
That said, why not both?
akidnamededdy
Banned
Salad Snack. I liked Big Boss in MGS3 but Portable Ops and Peace Walker were both just flat out dumb. Thank goodness Kojima's closing the narrative gap between Big Boss timeline and MG1 with Phantom Pain's 9 year coma, I don't think I could stand yet another "okay this one will REALLY show you how Big Boss became a bad guy" story.
Snake... because I liked the original MGS the most. I was just the right age for that stuff when it came out and it shaped the very being I am today. I can only say I've really enjoyed MGS and the tanker portion of Sons of Liberty. The rest is just on another, lower, level for me.
Nose Master
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I haven't played Peace Walker, but Snake. Big Boss has like no personality at all.
CheDominik
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Trust me. Playing the games won't help at all. I tried to read up on the MGS story because it's been a while and I was confused back then and it just doesn't make any sense.
Just remember that Solid Snake is a clone of Big Boss and nanomachines.
PetriP-TNT
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No, they are actually the same dude.
Solid Snake. He's horribly underutilized thanks to Kojima's obsession with Big Boss though.
Seriously. The franchise is called Metal Gear Solid.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I'm partial to David. Solid Snake is human and prone to errors in battle and at times preparation. He left the battlefield for a long time voluntarily. He's human and actually capable of caring about someone else. His issues translate into the game well. Big boss doesn't have the same dialogue with Meryl as Dave.
Big Boss feels better to play through a game with. He's a battlefield genius that has explanations for everything from weapon mechanics to battle tactics. Having never played peace walker, with no intentions to do so, I'd love to explore rebuilding Mother Base. He headshotted enemies from a helicopter at night with no scope in the midst of an explosion. The problem with him is he's too good. He barely misses and that's cool but not human. With that said, I look forward to watching Snake's revenge in TPP.
Big Boss feels better to play through a game with. He's a battlefield genius that has explanations for everything from weapon mechanics to battle tactics. Having never played peace walker, with no intentions to do so, I'd love to explore rebuilding Mother Base. He headshotted enemies from a helicopter at night with no scope in the midst of an explosion. The problem with him is he's too good. He barely misses and that's cool but not human. With that said, I look forward to watching Snake's revenge in TPP.
Solid Snake.
MGS1 is so great.
MGS4 is shitted on too easily. Old Snake dealing with growing old is pretty great.
Big Boss is cool and all, MGS3 is basically MGS1 remade, with all the experience and benefits of doing MGS1 and 2.
But after that, I lost interest in the character that will end up building a mercenary nation and getting killed, just because he didn't understand his mentor's message. I mean, it'd be an interesting story, but has been spread over three games now? and maybe we will have a final BB game after TPP? That's too long.
MGS1 is so great.
MGS4 is shitted on too easily. Old Snake dealing with growing old is pretty great.
Big Boss is cool and all, MGS3 is basically MGS1 remade, with all the experience and benefits of doing MGS1 and 2.
But after that, I lost interest in the character that will end up building a mercenary nation and getting killed, just because he didn't understand his mentor's message. I mean, it'd be an interesting story, but has been spread over three games now? and maybe we will have a final BB game after TPP? That's too long.
Coffee Dog
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MGS2 Solid is a fantastic character.
Big Boss is goofy and naive, and while that can be fun, it hurts his character as a whole.
Big Boss is goofy and naive, and while that can be fun, it hurts his character as a whole.
Unknown One
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The original, Solid Snake. Big Boss is just a retcon/character clone.
Yeah I guess but I think it is important to point out that it was retconed in the game that really brought the series to mass significance.
entremet
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What's so special about Big Boss in Peacewalker? Game was pretty shit narratively. EmceeGrammr has an epic post showing why. Can't remember where it was though.
MGS1? That's Solid's game.
Bunch of confused souls in this thread.
Solid Snake:
- On his first mission, he rescued Gray Fox, destroyed Metal Gear, and defeated Big Boss.
- In MGS, he came out of an early retirement, saved the pansy that is Otacon, defeated FOXHOUND single handedly, fought a fucking ninja and won, saved the world again by taking care of another Metal Gear, and beat the crap out of his British twin brother.
- In MGS2, he helped Raiden grow some balls (miraculous feat), sank a goddamn tanker, inspired millions, and he swam down a Metal Gear Ray. That's right. That's how insane his skills are. He swims fast enough to keep up with a machine.
- He also has an IQ of 180 and is fluent in six languages.
Whilst we don't know what happened with this great man beyond the events of MGS2, we know he's due for a return.
Big Boss's resume includes killing his own mother figure (good job you ungrateful twat), crying about killing his own mother figure, sexually assaulting some loli looking girl, getting his ass tortured by Drago, being put into a coma (jesus christ), growing a dick on his head, then having the shit beat out of him by his own student of CQC when he tried the whole grandmaster villain reveal. He also has difficulty speaking one language, let alone six.
'Oh, I was forced to kill The Boss. Oh cruel fate, how you have abandoned thee!!'
If only Solid Snake could go back in time and kill his crippled ass.
Solid Snake:
- On his first mission, he rescued Gray Fox, destroyed Metal Gear, and defeated Big Boss.
- In MGS, he came out of an early retirement, saved the pansy that is Otacon, defeated FOXHOUND single handedly, fought a fucking ninja and won, saved the world again by taking care of another Metal Gear, and beat the crap out of his British twin brother.
- In MGS2, he helped Raiden grow some balls (miraculous feat), sank a goddamn tanker, inspired millions, and he swam down a Metal Gear Ray. That's right. That's how insane his skills are. He swims fast enough to keep up with a machine.
- He also has an IQ of 180 and is fluent in six languages.
Whilst we don't know what happened with this great man beyond the events of MGS2, we know he's due for a return.
Big Boss's resume includes killing his own mother figure (good job you ungrateful twat), crying about killing his own mother figure, sexually assaulting some loli looking girl, getting his ass tortured by Drago, being put into a coma (jesus christ), growing a dick on his head, then having the shit beat out of him by his own student of CQC when he tried the whole grandmaster villain reveal. He also has difficulty speaking one language, let alone six.
'Oh, I was forced to kill The Boss. Oh cruel fate, how you have abandoned thee!!'
If only Solid Snake could go back in time and kill his crippled ass.
WrenchNinja
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Solid Snake
What game is that? Because this isn't the case for MGS3, and Big Boss didnt become a clone until then.
Sub_Level
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I think Big Boss actually lacks a lot of his own unique identity. Snake's personality was essentially slapped onto him right down to copy-pasting Solid Snake's own lines:
"I have never been interested in other peoples' lives".
For this reason I prefer Solid Snake but I think Phantom Pain will really bring Big Boss into his own unqiue character. The new voice actor helps too.
"I have never been interested in other peoples' lives".
For this reason I prefer Solid Snake but I think Phantom Pain will really bring Big Boss into his own unqiue character. The new voice actor helps too.
LowEndTorque
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Big Bawsss.
MGS3 had the best story of the series. salute.jpeg.
MGS3 had the best story of the series. salute.jpeg.
Vincent Alexander
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Big Boss. We really didn't get to see Snake's journey. His beginnings were on NES, and his ending in MGS4 was garbage. If he had a stronger foundation to the beginnings of his journey, and to the end, it'd be Snake. As it stands now, he got nothin'.
Time for that Metal Gear remake
Time for that Metal Gear remake
Ladders were never the same after that.
MGS1
Yeah I know. I'm just saying that it being retconed into MGS1 was important cause that's when the series really picked up. If for example that story line was added to a game that started the decline of the series I think the fact that the clone thing was only added later would have been a better argument for Solid being a better character.