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[IcyRhythms]

Forza was already 1080p 60FPS on XB1, though, correct?

 

[aeolist]

Assuming XBox One 's current card is capped at dx11.1 feature level that is...

Spoiler

secret sauce

you don't have to assume anything, GCN is a well-understood architecture

 

[Newlove]

Would be interesting to see if they could have kept Forza 5 at the E3 level of fidelity if they had access to this at the time.

 

[DJSebolski]

Will the visuals be improved in Forza 5 then just because of DX12?

Improved performance in general so it could be anything resolution, FPS etc...

 

[Chettlar]

Forza was already 1080p 60FPS on XB1, though, correct?

Perhaps it dipped at times? I don't own it.

 

[ElTorro]

I expected that some features are already present on the XBO. I guess it's more of a port from the console to the desktop/mobile world, in addition to new features.

 

[justsomeguy]

you don't have to assume anything, GCN is a well-understood architecture

Yeah, but for example there's still speculation about whether xbo is a dx11.2 card rather than dx11.1

 

[UpsideDownAce]

Forza was already 1080p 60FPS on XB1, though, correct?

Yes. It's one of Microsoft's cited examples of 1080p 60fps games on the console

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Is the port running on XB1 or a PC?

 

[Chobel]

Perhaps it dipped at times? I don't own it.

It didn't.

 

[ekim]

Perhaps it dipped at times? I don't own it.

It's not dropping one frame but maybe they now have room to increase IQ or get that 3D crowd back in

 

[Ricerocket]

Porting X1 games to PC will be easier and vice versa if they threw in X1 optimizations into DX12 if this is what the example of Forza is. Game development between pc/x1 much easier.

 

[VisceralBowl]

No?

 

[bishoptl]

I wonder if the cut out cardboard crowds in Forza look better with DX12?

troll

 

[Chettlar]

I expected that some features are already present on the XBO. I guess it's more of a port from the console to the desktop/mobile world, in addition to new features.

Yup. I still stand by my theory that Xbone was originally designed with DX12 in mind, but DX12 was not finished by the time the Xbone was, so they patched it up with DX11.1.

 

[Frayne Daddy]

Don't care about crowds. Take them out and focus on weather and night and day modes please.

 

[Broken Hope]

Is the port running on XB1 or a PC?

XB1

 

[jem0208]

Perhaps it dipped at times? I don't own it.

Nah, it's very solid framerate wise.

 

[Naminator]

I wonder if there was a reason to port that game to Dx12, was just for the sake of the Demo? Or will they be patching this in to the retail version?

 

[justsomeguy]

Cmon Turn 10... where was the "... so now we can enable XYZ anti aliasing", or "so we can run at a higher res and downsample" type comment??

 

[JaggedSac]

XB1

How do you know that?

 

[GeoMatrix]

Most of this is to show PC development, some of what we saw on Xbox already was using DX12 (I am assuming)

 

[SEGAvangelist]

XB1

For real? I wonder if it'll get patched.

 

[VisceralBowl]

"Ryan Shrout: AMD has been working very closely with DX12. Heh."

Mantle is DX12? Conspiracy? lol

 

[GreyWind]

According to the live chat AMD has been working very closely with DX12.

 

[ekim]

10:26
Ryan Shrout: And now back to info. Will you have to buy new hardware? I would say no since they just showed Xbox One... lol

. so it was running on XB1?

 

[cyberheater]

Is there not even a audio stream of this?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

awww shit.

 

[coldfoot]

If Forza 5 is coming to PC, I'm buying a new GPU. Finally I can use my T500RS on the thing...

While that's probably not going to happen, correct me wrong but these types of API optimizations are already on consoles, right? PC gaming should benefit the most from DX12?

 

[Chettlar]

I wonder if there was a reason to port that game to Dx12, was just for the sake of the Demo? Or will they be patching this in to the retail version?

Well, they spent 4 months of man power porting the core engine over. I suspect they wouldn't let all that work go to waste. Why not use some other game to show this off?

 

[Broken Hope]

How do you know that?

Because there was no mention of them porting to different hardware? Just from DX11.x to DX12.

 

[Hoo-doo]

So what did it actually improve upon, porting it to DX12?

 

[VisceralBowl]

 

[aeolist]

oh wait, i forgot that they limited dx11.1 to windows 8 and 11.2 to 8.1

so yeah, this will be windows 8.1 exclusive, thus it will have an extremely slow uptake (similar to how vista bombing really hurt directx 10 adoption)

 

[GreyWind]

 

[dollartaco]

What is the point of porting an already locked 60fps game and showing that it remains at 60fps?

 

[EternalTruth]

AMD lead engineer accepting defeat? Raja Koduri unveiled Mantle last year!

This just proves competition is good for the consumers...

 

[BenouKat]

So what did it actually improve upon, porting it to DX12?

Yes I don't really understand what's the actual and visual improvement but I'm sure they will share a DX11/DX12 video soon.

 

[justsomeguy]

AMD: "Benefits of Direct3D 12 will extend to Xbox One"... HMmm..... do they just mean better thread use / cpu use?

 

[TC McQueen]

Is there not even a audio stream of this?

Nope. Text live stream is the only thing they allowed for some retarded reason.

 

[mercenar1e]

seems like we don't have to upgrade our GPU

 

[UpsideDownAce]

If Forza 5 is coming to PC, I'm buying a new GPU. Finally I can use my T500RS on the thing...

Playing forza with a gt wheel, awesome haha.

It would be great if forza could escape the walled garden of the xbo to have better support for wheels

 

[ElTorro]

AMD lead engineer accepting defeat?

DirectX 12 has taken up the mantle.

 

[JaggedSac]

Cool, current hardware gets benefits.

 

[Dr.Schlomo]

What is the point of porting an already locked 60fps game and showing that it remains at 60fps?

The 60fps is to show it's stable and didn't drop in fps.

 

[cyberheater]

Nope. Text live stream is the only thing they allowed for some retarded reason.

Thanks.

 

[Chettlar]

What is the point of porting an already locked 60fps game and showing that it remains at 60fps?

That's what I want to know. Maybe it's nothing more than just saying, with the improvements, it doesn't take a hit in performance, so it is indeed improving?

 

[justsomeguy]

What is the point of porting an already locked 60fps game and showing that it remains at 60fps?

Wondering the same. "LOOK! It didn't get any worse!".

 

[gruenel]

The 60fps is to show it's stable and didn't drop in fps.

But it didn't drop before either?

 

[chadskin]

Funny no one mentions Mantle. Dat big red elephant in the room.