Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi

batfax said:
Saving time and money is one thing, but I wasn't really thinking of GC -> Wii model, but something like Gameboy Sprite -> Wii model. Seeing so many old characters from some of Nintendo's oldest games with a complete 3D visual upgrade in Melee's trophies was a real treat.
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I see what you mean now.
 
StreetsAhead said:
Original Wii U trophies be like damn!

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There were a few new models like the EBA but it really did feel like they were all GCN and Wii rips.

It also doesn't have to be old sprites getting updated, the old 3D models cleaned up is also nice to see. We have a Spirit Tracks stage so hopefully we'll get a nice Linebeck trophy because the Zelda DS games deserve a visual upgrade.
 
Going to bed after this but want to come back and say how dubious how sakurai posted phosphorus for the wiiU version, there isnt much of a reason for him to do that, unlike saria with OoT it was on the 3DS so while it is generally revered as a console game it is getting representation on 3DS, im thinking theres more to this trophy then we thought, and it might not be smash related.
 
foxuzamaki said:
Going to bed after this but want to come back and say how dubious how sakurai posted phosphorus for the wiiU version, there isnt much of a reason for him to do that, unlike saria with OoT it was on the 3DS so while it is generally revered as a console game it is getting representation on 3DS, im thinking theres more to this trophy then we thought, and it might not be smash related.
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You mean like a WiiU remake/sequel to Uprising?
 
foxuzamaki said:
Going to bed after this but want to come back and say how dubious how sakurai posted phosphorus for the wiiU version, there isnt much of a reason for him to do that, unlike saria with OoT it was on the 3DS so while it is generally revered as a console game it is getting representation on 3DS, im thinking theres more to this trophy then we thought, and it might not be smash related.
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maybe because kid Icarus as a series is not handheld exclusive being the first one on NES. But also OoT 3D is from a series with home installments. Maybe exclusive trophies can be transferred over?
 
soviet prince said:
a trophy really?
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YEAH! HOW DARE THEY SHOW US THE TROPHY OF PHOSPHORA WHICH IS ORIGINALLY BASED ON 3DS GAME ON WII U! THEY HAD TO MODEL RIPPED THE MODEL FROM 3DS JUST FOR WII U TROPHY! HOW DARE! (Sarcasm mode on)

Seriously, I think it's a great news that they are working on their best on trophies, so I guess it's possibly that we will see a lot of trophies that are not model ripped from the games. I can guess that it's because of Wii U being HD games, so they can't really ripped it from Wii Games because it's 480p right?

This update is so good and that trophy is gorgeous.
 
BGBW said:
Why wouldn't the news that trophies are not just model rips not please everyone?
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I wonder... is that really an original trophy though?

The polygon count seems fairly low for a Wii U original trophy meant to be seen only in the trophy gallery. It could still be a recycled asset from some other part of the game... Brawl had Silver appearing in a Sonic 1 stage, so it could be from a stage cameo or some other minor appearance, even if there isn't an Uprising stage in the Wii U version.

I can guess that it's because of Wii U being HD games, so they can't really ripped it from Wii Games because it's 480p right?
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That has nothing to do with it. The Skyward Sword stage is a model rip.
 
So since its not a trophy on the 3ds, that means Kid Icarus for Wii U at some point...right? Or maybe cross unlock for trophies?

I think Samurai can go master troll level and disable zoom from the trophies. No more looking for Daisy's third eye or zooming into Zero Suit Seamus lel
 
So anyone else think the reason we haven't seen yoshi yet is the same reason Bowser and Pit were in the initial reveal trailer?

Yoshi may have received big gameplay/design changes, like pit and bowser. Rather than try to explain it in a pic of the day, he can add them to the E3 2014 trailer/developer direct and explain the changes in a bit more detail. Maybe eggs are now his neutral B and his up b has changed to something useful. The tongue move is now just his throw, and if you throw them down, then they become eggs, or something. Maybe ganondorf is part of this as well.

I'm hoping the E3 trailer in May or whenever has 2-3 newcomers, and then 2-3 veterans that have received gameplay overhauls.

Besides Yoshi and ganondorf, who else needs one? Jigglypuff? Maybe make her sing be her taunt and give her a new fairy move.
 
spyroflame0487 said:
So since its not a trophy on the 3ds, that means Kid Icarus for Wii U at some point...right?
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Or maybe handheld/console focus doesn't mean handheld/console exclusivity...

I think Samurai can go master troll level and disable zoom from the trophies. No more looking for Daisy's third eye or zooming into Zero Suit Seamus lel...
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Dropping the camera controls would just make trophies more pointless.
 
REVEAL CALENDAR

2013:
June 11: E3, Smash 4 site opens, initial characters: Mario, Link, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Fox, Pit, Samus, Pikachu and Bowser as veterans and Villager, Mega Man and Wii Fit Trainer as newcomers. Stages: Battlefield, Boxing Ring, Wily's Fortress, Skyloft, Super Mario 3D Land., Wii Fit Training Room, Gerudo Valley, Arena Ferox, Nintendogs, Spirit Train, Smashville, weird adventure mode looking stage.

June 12: Smash Ball item.
July 12: Pikmin & Olimar, Garden of Hope Wii U stage.
Jul 23: Kid Icarus 3DS stage.
August 6: Pilot Wings/Wuhu Island Wii U stage.
Aug 7: Luigi.
Aug 16: X-Bomb item.
Aug 20: Pyrosphere Wii U stage.
September 10: Mario Galaxy Wii U stage (tease).
Sep 12: Peach.
Sep 26: Toon Link.
October 1: Sonic and Windy Hill Wii U stage.
Oct 18: Xerneas (likely to be a Pokeball).
Oct 31: Male Wii Fit Trainer (Status currently unknown - alt costume?).
November 4: Hocotate Spaceship item.
Nov 7: Marth.
Nov 11: Capsule item.
Nov 15: Mario Galaxy stage full confirmation.
Nov 26: Ray Gun item.
December 3: Find Mii 3DS stage.
Dec 6: Assist Trophy returns. Skull Kid as AT.
Dec 9: Steel Diver item.
Dec 11: Animal Crossing 3DS stage (tease).
Dec 13: Nintendog as AT.
Dec 18: Rosalina & Luma. Trailer confirms Fire Flower, Green Shell, Pokeball items.
Dec 24: Rainbow Road 3DS stage.
Dec 25: Stafy as AT.
Dec 26: Zelda.

2014:
January 6: Trophy item. Saria trophy.
Jan 10: King Dedede.
Jan 15: Ashley as AT.
Jan 20: Weird adventure mode looking stage. Might be the same as the one in the E3 trailer[/url].
Jan 23: Viridi as stage hazard on Kid Icarus 3DS stage.
Jan 24: Alfonzo replaces Toon Link on the Spirit Tracks 3DS stage when TL is played.
Jan 28: Beetle item.
Jan 29: Kid Icarus-related Wii U stage.
Jan 31: Lucario.
February 5: Palkia in Pokéball.
Feb 7: Mother Brain as AT.
Feb 12: Homerun Bat item.
Feb 13/14: Little Mac. Boxing Ring stage in 3DS version, with Punch Out!! version. Sandbag item possibly confirmed (not shown in-game).
Feb 18: Fairy in a bottle item.
Feb 21: Diddy Kong.
Feb 25: Confirmation Boxing Ring stage has 2 versions (Smash. Bros and Punch-Out!!).
Feb 27: Waluigi as AT.
Feb 28: Dedenne in Pokeball.
March 3: Kotake and Koume as stage hazard on Gerudo Valley.
Mar 4: Bumper item.
Mar 7: Tortimer Island 3DS stage (full reveal).
Mar 10: Little Mac from Captain Rainbow trophy.
Mar 11: Lumiose City 3DS stage.
Mar 13: Proximity Mine item.
Mar 15: Tomodachi Collection 3DS stage.
Mar 17: Smashball item in-game.
Mar 18: Super Mario 3D Land stage overview.
Mar 21: Phosphora trophy.
 
IntelliHeath said:
It would be a month today.
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But February is the shortest month. :)

The gaps between character reveals, so far (including weekend days):
E3 Trailer - Olimar: 31 days
Olimar - Luigi: 26 days
Luigi - Peach: 36 days
Peach - Toon Link: 14 days
Toon Link - Sonic: 5 days
Sonic - Marth: 37 days
Marth - Rosalina: 41 days
Rosalina - Zelda: 12 days
Zelda - Dedede: 15 days
Dedede - Lucario: 21 days
Lucario - Little Mac: 14 days
Little Mac - Diddy: 7 days
Diddy - ?: currently 28 days, but will be at least 30 days (since the weekend starts now)

This is give or take one, I might've counted the reveal day for some of these calculations.

I think it just seems as if it's been forever since the last reveal because we've been getting used to those 1-3 week character reveals.
 
georly said:
So anyone else think the reason we haven't seen yoshi yet is the same reason Bowser and Pit were in the initial reveal trailer?

Yoshi may have received big gameplay/design changes, like pit and bowser. Rather than try to explain it in a pic of the day, he can add them to the E3 2014 trailer/developer direct and explain the changes in a bit more detail. Maybe eggs are now his neutral B and his up b has changed to something useful. The tongue move is now just his throw, and if you throw them down, then they become eggs, or something. Maybe ganondorf is part of this as well.

I'm hoping the E3 trailer in May or whenever has 2-3 newcomers, and then 2-3 veterans that have received gameplay overhauls.

Besides Yoshi and ganondorf, who else needs one? Jigglypuff? Maybe make her sing be her taunt and give her a new fairy move.
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nahhhhhh
besides Bowser wasn't really changed that much
 
theprodigy said:
nahhhhhh
besides Bowser wasn't really changed that much
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He was changed graphically, which was worth showing off. Pit had new moves, which were worth showing off.

Maybe yoshi has a couple new moves. Maybe yoshi looks a little different. Every other veteran reveal has been a 'better graphics' version of existing models, except for bowser who got a mini showcase in the E3 developer direct. As far as we know (except maybe zelda), all the veteran's movesets are the same as well, except pit, who got a mini showcase in the E3 developer direct.

If anything about yoshi has changed, whether it be model or moveset, i think he'll get some extra love in another developer direct.
 
Yeah that model is different since the fingers are all separate, unlike in Uprising where most character had a index finger and the rest of the hand was textured for it to seem like fingers. So they are putting work into it instead of straight porting the assets from the game. Although they are probably just porting the original modeled asset into the game.

Anyways the updates he's been giving me have been good for me. I don't need to see Yoshi yet. I rather would like to see that Skyloft stage to get fixed up for those textures or at least add that water painting DOF that Skyward Sword had, to make it look good.
 
Red Arremer said:
But February is the shortest month. :)

The gaps between character reveals, so far (including weekend days):
E3 Trailer - Olimar: 31 days
Olimar - Luigi: 26 days
Luigi - Peach: 36 days
Peach - Toon Link: 14 days
Toon Link - Sonic: 5 days
Sonic - Marth: 37 days
Marth - Rosalina: 41 days
Rosalina - Zelda: 12 days
Zelda - Dedede: 15 days
Dedede - Lucario: 21 days
Lucario - Little Mac: 14 days
Little Mac - Diddy: 7 days
Diddy - ?: currently 28 days, but will be at least 30 days (since the weekend starts now)

This is give or take one, I might've counted the reveal day for some of these calculations.

I think it just seems as if it's been forever since the last reveal because we've been getting used to those 1-3 week character reveals.
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so what you're saying is
the thirst is real
character reveal 14 days from now confirmed
 
I just changed my avatar so people wouldn't have to get confused between me and superangelo.

If anyone still want smug Dedede avatar, then they can have it. :P
 
Does Yoshi really need a redesign though? He doesn't use Baby Mario in every game. Like even though I love Ganondorf and hope they don't give him a sword, he clearly isn't much like his Zelda counterpart. Bowser wasn't like his Mario counterpart because he was too dragon-y. But Yoshi? Yoshi seems pretty spot-on to me.
 
So the PoTD was a trophy that essentially showed that they will actually update the models for each version? That's rather neat.

Also, Sakurai is proving he's still got it in trolling people

w00tkins said:
Kid Icarus Uprising: Revengeance?
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Pit: Why won't you die?
Hades: Nanomachines, son!
 
Basically we have about 1800 posts to go, so once we get new page then we will discuss a future title for next OT. I know some people want Smash Meme reference for OT6 (Mostly Alfonzo)

Here is a possibly subtitle, Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 6 IH(OR OP): I QUIT! Alfonzo: Leave it to me!

theprodigy said:
Hey that's a nice new avatar you got there!
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Thanks!
 
Kriken said:
So the PoTD was a trophy that essentially showed that they will actually update the models for each version? That's rather neat.

Also, Sakurai is proving he's still got it in trolling people



Pit: Why won't you die?
Hades: Nanomachines, son!
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where's Rules of Nature
 
Let discuss with our next potential subtitle for OT6. I know some people want Smash Meme reference for OT6 (Mostly Alfonzo)

Here is a possibly subtitle, Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 6 IH(OR OP): I QUIT! Alfonzo: Leave it to me!
 
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