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What will Nintendo do at E3 2014?
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DrForester
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Which only reinforces the notion of a butthurt press who didn't get their ego stroked with an invite to a press conference. You had guys on G4 trying to say that Nintendo wasn't even there.
SomethingInTheSea
Member
I just think that E3 is the one gaming event of the year where what's said / shown has a chance of bleeding over into the rest of the market (call them casuals or whatever) and the perception that you aren't trying as hard as the other manufacturers can be damaging even if it isn't strictly speaking true.
Herb Alpert
Banned
I don't think Nintendo is going into VR. the technology needed doesn't match their traditionnal way to create and sell hardware.
Aww yeah!
Virtual Boy 2, now comes in blue. Japan only.
I can see Nintendo jumping into it when they can include something unique and Nintendo-y about it. Like spearheading thought control with VR.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Non wearable = special contacts that have VR power OR microchip in humans idea
that's a good point but it's one that I don't care about and in a perfect world it wouldn't matter anyway. that shouldn't really reflect poorly on Nintendo imo, even if it actually does. for me personally that reflects more on the state of the gaming industry and games journalism, if anything. the fact that some people actually believed Nintendo wasn't going to E3 last year put a big spotlight on that because some gaming journalists perpetuated that notion for unknown reasons. there was some willful ignorance going on and I think that was the biggest problem honestly. I mean look at all the drive-by posts in this thread saying things like "they probably won't even show up". I'd wager that those posters know full-and-well what the reality was last year they just choose to perpetuate these ignorant talking points to continue the never-ending Nintendo narrative as they choose to see it
I got burned the last few years by Nintendo's E3s, I also have very low expectations for this year.
Yep. It's different for me this year in that I know what to expect, and there wont be much surprises since they have enough ot cover E3 with all their currently announced games.
Yep. Last year we were riding off the january direct hype to give us more, expecting grand reveals of HD mario and metroid or a zelda tease but got a poor reveal trailers of SM3DW and another 2D DK instead which was disappointing for some. There were even a bunch of rumors that were gaining some hype.
This year we pretty much know what to expect on the games/announcements side so I want to be blown away by good trailers or gameplay videos to avoid a repeat of last year (i.e. more like the october SM3DW trailer or X or smash trailer etc that showcases the games well).
I'm just talking in terms of wii u, though I do expect some suprises for 3DS.
It doesn't help when the lagging, constantly freezing stream was barely watchable for some directs.
I think they're better off saving a ton of money and doing a direct instead of a live show, even though I enjoy the live stage shows more. They could have more grand, memorable reveals for certain game and some of those funny E3 moments (not forced like reggie's E3 2012 antics felt) and genuine excited audience reactions make it more hype (when they're not fake recorded ones). Also, It feels like the games media focus more-so on covering conferences before and after since they are much less common than a direct, or maybe that's just me.
Sammy Samusu
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Endless Ocean 3
I don't think we'll see their QOL products at E3. It's not aimed toward gamers, like at all. Not even casuals. E3 is not for that. E3 is for gamers. I mean, they apologized for the E3 2008 conference not being geared enough toward gamers.
If they take time on-stage or in a Direct for that, it's E3 2008 all over again.
If they take time on-stage or in a Direct for that, it's E3 2008 all over again.
They will show us the remaining games for the Wii U and whatever NFC game(s) they have coming out for the system granted they aren't canceled before then. I'm sure we'll get a handful of 3DS games as well.
Nintendo could show of Zelda U as their closer. I'm not sure what format they'll be going with this year but I hope it's not a Direct.
Nintendo could show of Zelda U as their closer. I'm not sure what format they'll be going with this year but I hope it's not a Direct.
If it connects with their gaming devices in anyway they're more than likely to show it in some form at E3. I haven't been following their QoL stuff so I don't know when it will be ready for release but if they have something to show, I wouldn't doubt them taking some time during their E3 conference to show it.
Forgottonone
Member
Had a dream that the Wii U was announced that it was being discontinued. A lot sooner then everyone was predicting.. good thing I woke up.
Ohh and Zelda U will be the game you want to see at E3
TheSlySoul
Member
Cranky Kong in Smash Brothers Wii/3DS!
In all seriousness, probably Smash Brothers will be the highlight. Probably a new Mario game, maybe another Wii ___ game. One game that we don't expect will probably show up. I expect them to do a showcase of indie games like they tend to do each year.
In all seriousness, probably Smash Brothers will be the highlight. Probably a new Mario game, maybe another Wii ___ game. One game that we don't expect will probably show up. I expect them to do a showcase of indie games like they tend to do each year.
RobFox64tm
Member
I don't mind if it's a Direct again, but that shit needs to work this time.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Yea their booths were awesome!
I thought their whole road apperances were done well in 2013.
I really don't think them doing a Nintendo Direct instead of a conference is that big of a deal.
I mean, I've been to over 10 of these E3 jams. I thought leading up to E3 last year it sounded bad they weren't doing one, but at the end of the day - they probably get more coverage with an ND anyway. And they launched the playable demos and kicked off the best buy kiosk program immediately after, I'd argue that was a more impactful deal than just having closed demos at their booth.
That said, I dunno if they are doing a press conference or not this year...
I just know where they aren't doing one.
Kissenkopf
Banned
Smash Bros. and Zelda will be their highlights and if they doit right, they can turn around some heads with these games.
Even if the last console Zelda didn't met the expectations of the fans and Nintendo themselfs, I doubt anyone could ignore the next entry of one of the best franchises ever created. If it looks good, sounds great and seems to change the old formula...we could have an instant hit there, which would dominate the show.
I mean...what do you remember from E3 2004 instead of Zelda and the DS?
Even if the last console Zelda didn't met the expectations of the fans and Nintendo themselfs, I doubt anyone could ignore the next entry of one of the best franchises ever created. If it looks good, sounds great and seems to change the old formula...we could have an instant hit there, which would dominate the show.
I mean...what do you remember from E3 2004 instead of Zelda and the DS?
Nintendo is not going to announce QOL at E3. Iwata specifically said that QOL is a completely different division from gaming. That would be like Kaz Hirai coming to E3 to announce a new Sony Bravia. E3 is a gaming convention. The casual shit Nintendo has shown in the past still had to do with gaming. QOL is completely separate.
MakeMeFeelAlive
Member
I can easily see Nintendo having a conference at the very beginning, or doing something outside of e3 before the event. They have to know that Sony and Microsoft are going to bring the big guns and show off anything and everything they have for the new consoles. If Nintendo does not have anything huge to surprise people, they should just step aside or they'll get crushed and it'll look even worse for them.
so that sounds like Nintendo has not booked the main room where most of the conferences are held, yes?
Every year I get excited for the next E3.
Every year I board the hype train.
Every year I shake my head at half the stuff at Nintendo's E3 conference and wonder why they can't get their shit together, and yet...
Every year I still think Nintendo won.
Every year I spend too much money on Nintendo products.
And then I start this crazy ride all over again.
Every year I board the hype train.
Every year I shake my head at half the stuff at Nintendo's E3 conference and wonder why they can't get their shit together, and yet...
Every year I still think Nintendo won.
Every year I spend too much money on Nintendo products.
And then I start this crazy ride all over again.
I was thinking they could do anything, which is why we always get excited. Nintendo has been screwing up a lot lately, but we still get hyped because if they do it right, they have the potential to dominate E3. If they hit all of the right surprises, nothing MS or Sony could announce would matter besides HL3 exclusivity. But that hasn't been the case in a while.
So while I though they could make a ton of surprises, this thread reminded me of all of the games they have announced but not shown.
Zelda U
Hyrule Warriors
Smash
Bayo 2
X
Yarn Yoshi
SMT X FE
Sonic Boom
NFC/Miyamoto new IP(maybe same thing?)
Possibly HD remakes
MAAAYYYBBBEEE Retro new project
And they'll probably spend some time on MK, maybe announcing DLC courses are in development after a successful launch. Plus whatever 3DS games they have in development. That's a pretty full list of games and I don't see how they'll have time for surprises.
That said, I would be pretty satisfied, especially if most come out this year. Obviously no Zelda, probably no X and SMT X FE, but that's not a bad lineup. It sucks that there won't be any megatons, but they have a pretty decent lineup from a variety of genres
So while I though they could make a ton of surprises, this thread reminded me of all of the games they have announced but not shown.
Zelda U
Hyrule Warriors
Smash
Bayo 2
X
Yarn Yoshi
SMT X FE
Sonic Boom
NFC/Miyamoto new IP(maybe same thing?)
Possibly HD remakes
MAAAYYYBBBEEE Retro new project
And they'll probably spend some time on MK, maybe announcing DLC courses are in development after a successful launch. Plus whatever 3DS games they have in development. That's a pretty full list of games and I don't see how they'll have time for surprises.
That said, I would be pretty satisfied, especially if most come out this year. Obviously no Zelda, probably no X and SMT X FE, but that's not a bad lineup. It sucks that there won't be any megatons, but they have a pretty decent lineup from a variety of genres
Biggest megaton: Nintendo actually did buy Devil's Third exclusivity
Ghost_Protocol
Member
Now that they actually have a couple of solid games coming up, I think they'll have a stage show. I don't think they want to reveal Zelda through a direct.
I definitely expect to see:
WiiU
Zelda U + release date (2015)
X (full reveal) + release date (2014)
Big new Smash Bros. character + release date (2014)
Bayonetta 2 + release date (2014)
Hyrule Warriors + release date (2014)
One big new IP
Lots and lots and lots of indie titles
Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (2015)
Also, they will absolutely drop the price of the system.
3DS
Majora's Mask 3DS
Monolith Soft's 3DS game
Dragon Quest VII
Monster Hunter 4
Pokemon something
Casual something
I hope to see:
Metroid sidescroller on 3DS
Star Fox Wii U
F-Zero Wii U
a Zelda for Wii U that isn't a OoT/TP/SS clone, and doesn't have any sort of control gimmick.
I definitely expect to see:
WiiU
Zelda U + release date (2015)
X (full reveal) + release date (2014)
Big new Smash Bros. character + release date (2014)
Bayonetta 2 + release date (2014)
Hyrule Warriors + release date (2014)
One big new IP
Lots and lots and lots of indie titles
Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (2015)
Also, they will absolutely drop the price of the system.
3DS
Majora's Mask 3DS
Monolith Soft's 3DS game
Dragon Quest VII
Monster Hunter 4
Pokemon something
Casual something
I hope to see:
Metroid sidescroller on 3DS
Star Fox Wii U
F-Zero Wii U
a Zelda for Wii U that isn't a OoT/TP/SS clone, and doesn't have any sort of control gimmick.
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
I am expecting a 3DS XL price drop too. With the 3DS going away, the price gap between the 2DS and 3DS is quite large.
friskykillface
Banned
Kissenkopf
Banned
The Miyamoto thing could be the biggest thing ever or just another Wii Music...I think Miyamoto still got it but I wish he would show something we would never expect. Give the man the money and time to make the most ambious project ever. Somtimes I hope he will make some kind of slice of life game with a good and tragic story, with characters so well designed, we would think they are real and combined with a fantastic gameplay and the most interactive world ever. You know...Shenmue just with Miymoto gameplay.
And no way we will see something from Retro...don't expect it before 2016.
IsntChrisL
Member
Yes, but that was scraps compared to an on-stage show.
I don't think Nintendo will do another Wii U price cut even though it's a hard sell to get such an overpriced and underpowered product to do well ... and the glaring lack of third party support only makes things look worse. However, even if they do a price cut, without the expanded audience's support, Nintendo's still pretty much stuck between a rock and a hard place. They simply don't have enough fans in the home console market to get Wii U to do any better than potentially 20 million and at this rate, that may even be a fairly generous assumption. Third party ports are practically worthless because Nintendo home consoles have the smallest portion of the target demographic that are willing to buy them on. Heck, GameCube had more going for it than Wii U does, and we all know what happened to that platform. Anyway, Iwata stated in January that there were no current plans to do a price cut for it.
How is it "scraps", exactly, when all the same content was provided that would have been at an on-stage presentation?
It sounds more exactly like I thought, people just miss the spectacle and fabricated hype machine.
Kissenkopf
Banned
iamvin22
Industry Verified
post above yours.
Yeah I know he's still got some magic in him, it just depends on what he decides to do. When was the last time he took a Director/Designer role? He's been producing mostly. Even Pikmin 3, his last series, he just produced on. So it'll be interesting to see where he goes. I can see 1 of scenarios.
A mind-blowing new game with incredible atmosphere and story (probably least likely)
An insanely addictive multiplayer game that's kid and adult friendly (this would be great)
Or Wii Music 2 or something along those lines.
Actually, a fourth one, and probably most likely if it's a core title. A well-made, mechanically fun, simplistic game, like Pikmin was back in the GameCube days
Like with the rest of Nintendo, it's so unpredictable. And I'm not really expecting anything from Retro, but they've been working on something recently, so I could see like a tease with concept art maybe.
Sorry, could'nt resist.
Somebody should put Iwatas head there instead of Homer.
I wish we could find out Iwata's e-mail so we can send him that picture (with a Wii U logo on the swinging ball).
I very much doubt that these new NFC titles are going to be mind blowing announcements. That's not to say that they won't necessarily be fun, but I remain skeptical about the creativeness and quality of such titles. Same can be said of their free-to-play titles.
Pretty much the best to expect. It's. 95% likely to happen and if we hit the other 5% we'll be happy.
spookyfish
Gold Member
Monolith isn't developing a 3DS game. They helped out with some of Nintendo's 3DS projects, but that was it.
IxmagicmanIx
Member
I'm expecting a repeat of everything they've talked about or shown over the past year that still has yet to be released. I'm genuinely not counting on any major surprise. Nothing Metroid, Star Fox, etc or anything core gamer related. Would like to be proven wrong but I think Nintendo has moved on from the Wii U and no more major investments will be done.
I think we'll get more detail on Zelda Wii U but the cynic in me says we'll know more about Hyrule Warriors (will learn it's real name) then the main game. Simply because Nintendo will think that will do better in Japan and that really is all they care about in the end. Expect a name for X and a story trailer. Another trailer for Bayonetta 2. Another push for Mario Kart 8 (even though it will have just been released) and another trailer for Smash with possibly a date and a new character. Maybe....maybe something on Sonic Boom.
Indies will get their sizzle trailer (both Wii U and 3DS will be combined) and no spotlight when they should. Especially if they are the "third party" support the Wii U will get as it limps along. No third party games at all save for possibly Sonic Boom. Even if they exist Wii U versions won't be acknowledged.
I will not be surprised to see SMT x FE moved from the Wii U to the 3DS. As well as Yarn Yoshi not being talked about. If sales of recent platformers have been bad I will not be surprised to see that game dropped or turned into something completely different. I also think the NFC stuff will be a one and done type of thing with only one game idea talked about. Nothing they will follow up on or make a primary focus going forward.
Now I can see a stage presentation if they're ready to talk about a replacement for the Wii U. Or actually going to make actual changes to how they operate and surprise us all with a doubling down on the Wii U to make it work. However since the QoL stuff is likely them trying to move away from gaming I doubt it.
A live stage show vs a Nintendo Direct I think tells us where they are and if any noteable surprises will take place. Higher if there is a live stage show to get audience reaction, major buzz, and be carried live on places like Twitch without any issues. Much lower if a Nintendo Direct is streamed via ustream and youtube and they only have their booths.
I do know this for certain. I'm not taking time off work (which I did in the past so I could enjoy things comfortably. Time off I have to take or lose it.) if it clearly looks like more of the same leading up to it. I didn't bother last year because it was just a Nintendo Direct. Another Nintendo Direct will result in me not even bothering to try it watch it live. I'll wait until I get home that evening or just following twitter. Won't even bother with Gaf.
I think we'll get more detail on Zelda Wii U but the cynic in me says we'll know more about Hyrule Warriors (will learn it's real name) then the main game. Simply because Nintendo will think that will do better in Japan and that really is all they care about in the end. Expect a name for X and a story trailer. Another trailer for Bayonetta 2. Another push for Mario Kart 8 (even though it will have just been released) and another trailer for Smash with possibly a date and a new character. Maybe....maybe something on Sonic Boom.
Indies will get their sizzle trailer (both Wii U and 3DS will be combined) and no spotlight when they should. Especially if they are the "third party" support the Wii U will get as it limps along. No third party games at all save for possibly Sonic Boom. Even if they exist Wii U versions won't be acknowledged.
I will not be surprised to see SMT x FE moved from the Wii U to the 3DS. As well as Yarn Yoshi not being talked about. If sales of recent platformers have been bad I will not be surprised to see that game dropped or turned into something completely different. I also think the NFC stuff will be a one and done type of thing with only one game idea talked about. Nothing they will follow up on or make a primary focus going forward.
Now I can see a stage presentation if they're ready to talk about a replacement for the Wii U. Or actually going to make actual changes to how they operate and surprise us all with a doubling down on the Wii U to make it work. However since the QoL stuff is likely them trying to move away from gaming I doubt it.
A live stage show vs a Nintendo Direct I think tells us where they are and if any noteable surprises will take place. Higher if there is a live stage show to get audience reaction, major buzz, and be carried live on places like Twitch without any issues. Much lower if a Nintendo Direct is streamed via ustream and youtube and they only have their booths.
I do know this for certain. I'm not taking time off work (which I did in the past so I could enjoy things comfortably. Time off I have to take or lose it.) if it clearly looks like more of the same leading up to it. I didn't bother last year because it was just a Nintendo Direct. Another Nintendo Direct will result in me not even bothering to try it watch it live. I'll wait until I get home that evening or just following twitter. Won't even bother with Gaf.
OldKingDoran
Banned
Just because you feel that way doesn't mean everyone else does.
The 3DS has one of the best gaming libraries available and still has some good upcoming games.
The Wii U is clearly in trouble but wii u owners are excited about upcoming games coming to their system like Smash Bros, Bayo 2, Mario Kart, X, SMTxFE, etc.
IsntChrisL
Member
Sure, that's part of it- but you're not seeing the big picture. Having a show meant that more press would cover them. It also meant that they could get featured on live TV like their competition was. Several gaming sites would have given Nintendo more coverage if they could have live-streamed the show too.
A lot of people missed out on Nintendo entirely last year because of the choice to skip the conference.
Which was the individual's choice and had nothing to do with that Nintendo did or didn't do.
We knew weeks ahead of time that the Direct was happening, what time and where to watch it. It was promoted on major gaming sites and social media.
If people missed it, it was because they wanted to. A stage presentation wouldn't change that.
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