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What will Nintendo do at E3 2014?
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Why on Earth are people moaning about the perception that Nintendo weren't at E3 last year?
E3 is literally all about the perception over the substance. No matter how noble the aims of the E3 Direct were, if the perception was that Nintendo simply weren't bothering it was a bad strategy.
Hell, if people only care about the info, just put it out in a press release and be done with it. E3's about more than that.
E3 is literally all about the perception over the substance. No matter how noble the aims of the E3 Direct were, if the perception was that Nintendo simply weren't bothering it was a bad strategy.
Hell, if people only care about the info, just put it out in a press release and be done with it. E3's about more than that.
IsntChrisL
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Wrong. If a stage presentation happened, a lot more people would have seen it. Especially on TV.
This also applies to your assertion that everyone that missed it did so by choice. We knew about it because we read about this shit all the time. There's a lot of gamers that don't go anywhere near message boards or Nintendo's facebook page. But they might stop by Gamespot a few times a week.
Is this why people bitch and moan if a new game isn't shown every 5 minutes?
E3 has nothing to do with perception. You either deliver the goods or you fail. Trying to do giant events has always been a failure. Just ask Microsoft who has some celebrity dancing each year ( or a Cirque De Sole piece of shit) how their perception has been for those.
And dates and times were on all major video game sites. As well as hands on and videos. Again if people missed it, it was by choice.
Bill Rizer
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Any thing announced at this point on WiiU can have at best the same effect anything announced for Dreamcast after january 2001 could ever have i.e.: nothing.
This is how I see it. To a lot of people who would only tune in for E3 and only vaguely follow gaming news, it sounded like Nintendo were admitting that they couldn't compete with Microsoft and Sony. That's not a good look. The problem was that last year it was true.
impetuous_silly
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Zelda Wii U will be anounced; it will be like an HD version of a Link Between Worlds. Nintendo phoning it in again.
I guess they will focus on 3 big things this year
Casual games for the 3DS and WiiU:
No matter how we twist and turn. That casual games haven't been big sellers like in the DS/Wii era, Nintendo will announce a slew of Casual games like Wii Party and more.
New 3DS revision AKA the "3DSi"
3DS hardware sales are all time low worldwide (especially in Japan) and the 2DS has seemingly failed to spur any big hardware sales in EU and USA. Now is the time to show a new 3DS revision that shows where Nintendo is heading with its next gen handheld.
QoL product:
It's inevitable and I'm wondering what they are going to announce.
This is what I guess they are going to focus more or less on E3 this year.
Has Nintendo said anything if they are going to have a conference this year or be like last year with a stream?
Casual games for the 3DS and WiiU:
No matter how we twist and turn. That casual games haven't been big sellers like in the DS/Wii era, Nintendo will announce a slew of Casual games like Wii Party and more.
New 3DS revision AKA the "3DSi"
3DS hardware sales are all time low worldwide (especially in Japan) and the 2DS has seemingly failed to spur any big hardware sales in EU and USA. Now is the time to show a new 3DS revision that shows where Nintendo is heading with its next gen handheld.
QoL product:
It's inevitable and I'm wondering what they are going to announce.
This is what I guess they are going to focus more or less on E3 this year.
Has Nintendo said anything if they are going to have a conference this year or be like last year with a stream?
IsntChrisL
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You're grossly underestimating how many people choose to watch something live on a whim.
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Because that perception was really only cause by misleading journalists apparently nursing sore ego's since they weren't invited or something.
I do think Nintendo needs to do a real conference though, because it's obvious the press will retaliate if they aren't given that ego stroke.
Entryhazard
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Given that ALBW was a masterpiece, all of my yes
I agree with with most. Nintendo isn't developing anymore games, no surprises coming just a very token E3 appearance consisting of the remaining games they have announced and not released. It was clear from last year that they don't care and Iwata has given every indication of transitioning the entire company over toward their QoL venture.
Honestly I like E3 better when it's about graphical trailers, if I can't play it might as well give me something to look at and compare on NeoGaf. Nintendo just cannot provide.
Honestly I like E3 better when it's about graphical trailers, if I can't play it might as well give me something to look at and compare on NeoGaf. Nintendo just cannot provide.
Kissenkopf
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Lol, these threads are alwasys the same it goes from "Nintendo will show some great games, could be fun" to "Nintendo don't care for the core gamers, they don't do anything right, Nintendo is doomed". Sometimes this is getting boring.
Watch Nintendo show the Wii U successor with 128 Gb ram and graphics like avatar 2.
Watch Nintendo show the Wii U successor with 128 Gb ram and graphics like avatar 2.
RobFox64tm
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Phoning it in? This would be amazing!
managing your fish journal, map, etc with next gen graphics with online multiplayer would be just perfect.
With a heavy focus on 4 player multiplayer.
I fear this, but I have hope Nintendo won't go through with it.
Spieler Eins
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A Link between 4 Swords, offline coop only - buy Hyrule Warriors if you want 3D Zelda (in the vein of ,,buy Soul Calibur for normal Link'' back in the day, lol). Defenders coming in on the next day already.
And that's exactly why they're moving resources away from gaming.
Really?..what were the viewing figures for the E3Direct in 2013..vs the press event in 2012.
You seem to have clear knowledge of the worldwide viewing figures ..so please tell us.
They're not moving resources away from anything. They've been expanding.
Plus, with their next console and handheld having similar architecture and the same OS, that frees up a lot of R&D manpower.
E3 2008 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo.
IsntChrisL
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Great point. Putting a Direct on one site compared to putting on a show that was streamed to dozens of sites and television- let's just assume that the audience count was pretty much the same rather than thinking something that makes some sort of sense.
I doubt it. The past few years we've seen Nintendo focussing on games only in their E3 conferences. I don't think they'll suddenly change that direction.
IsntChrisL
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Well Iwata said that they'd talk about it more in 2014. But the way Nintendo works, that could be any time. I could see them spending time on QOL at E3. I don't want them to, but I could see them doing it.
Are you saying that not having an E3 presentation resulted in more people seeing their products?
???
People are of the belief that the QoL platform is to be Nintendo's new complete focus, that they're shifting away from gaming etc. despite being told outright countless times that this isn't the case.
What the hell is this? "Absent from E3 2013", "Abandoning gaming for QOL"
The fuck are some of you guys on? They WERE at E3 2013, the only thing that changed is they didn't do a conference (which ISN'T technically part of E3, btw) and they never said they abandon gaming for their QOL strategy.
What the hell, seriously?
The fuck are some of you guys on? They WERE at E3 2013, the only thing that changed is they didn't do a conference (which ISN'T technically part of E3, btw) and they never said they abandon gaming for their QOL strategy.
What the hell, seriously?
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QOL product revealed - to release in the second half of 2015. Nintendo again looking to "change the industry" like they did with Wii.
Zelda U revealed - late 2015.
Metroid U revealed - late 2015.
Miyamoto's new WiiU game revealed, competitive card game heavily using the Gamepad, to release this October.
Animal Crossing U revealed, to release this November.
Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 HD revealed, to release this November.
Two new Smash U characters revealed (one is Bayonetta), to release this December.
X full reveal including new name, trailer / footage, to release this Nov in Japan, Spring 2015 in the rest of the World.
Bayonetta 2 new trailer / gameplay, to release this September.
Majora's Mask 3D revealed, to release this October.
Metroid 3DS revealed, to release this November.
Although it's hard to be a fan just now I think from MK8's release onwards it's going to be a very exciting time to be a Nintendo fan with a lot of new games and new ways of playing coming that are not available anywhere else
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Zelda U revealed - late 2015.
Metroid U revealed - late 2015.
Miyamoto's new WiiU game revealed, competitive card game heavily using the Gamepad, to release this October.
Animal Crossing U revealed, to release this November.
Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 HD revealed, to release this November.
Two new Smash U characters revealed (one is Bayonetta), to release this December.
X full reveal including new name, trailer / footage, to release this Nov in Japan, Spring 2015 in the rest of the World.
Bayonetta 2 new trailer / gameplay, to release this September.
Majora's Mask 3D revealed, to release this October.
Metroid 3DS revealed, to release this November.
Although it's hard to be a fan just now I think from MK8's release onwards it's going to be a very exciting time to be a Nintendo fan with a lot of new games and new ways of playing coming that are not available anywhere else
.The idea that Nintendo wasn't at E3 2013 is really frustrating. This was one of the situations where I like to point to where some ask if there really is a bias against Nintendo. Nintendo couldn't have been clearer when they announced the Nintendo Direct. They said there wouldn't be a stage presentation but they would be there on the show floor as they always have been. Gaming media people right away said that Nintendo was skipping E3. Period. This is where the idea came from that they were skipping or not even at E3. It was complete BS at the time and people were confused as to why it was happening. This wasn't a situation of Nintendo not being clear. They were as direct as one could get yet it was still spun into something else that produced confusion everywhere. The confusion did not come from Nintendo in this case but from the gaming media that watched the same announcement we did and purposefully spun it as something else on gaming sites, podcast, etc.
QoL, when it was talked about by Iwata was pitched in such a way to make on think it's non-gaming related. Or at least not focusing on gaming but another type of entertainment. Then there is the comment from Iwata that they will continue to make games. This new direction for the company is them moving resources away from video games. Be it talent or just money and focus.
QoL, when it was talked about by Iwata was pitched in such a way to make on think it's non-gaming related. Or at least not focusing on gaming but another type of entertainment. Then there is the comment from Iwata that they will continue to make games. This new direction for the company is them moving resources away from video games. Be it talent or just money and focus.
IsntChrisL
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Who is saying they were absent from E3? I used the search function for the thread and didn't get anything, but it might not have updated yet.
The QOL thing is jumping to conclusions though. Nintendo IS videogames. I don't think they're planning to abandon all of that any time soon.
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...well, never mind.
In other words, I don't expect them to blow our minds. Their offering will stay the same (ie games we already know about and more underwhelming things like Dr Luigi). I certainly don't expect them to put an end to region-lock or to speed things up on the Virtual Console front.
Maybe we'll finally get an account system but even that sounds like asking too much.
...well, never mind.
In other words, I don't expect them to blow our minds. Their offering will stay the same (ie games we already know about and more underwhelming things like Dr Luigi). I certainly don't expect them to put an end to region-lock or to speed things up on the Virtual Console front.
Maybe we'll finally get an account system but even that sounds like asking too much.
2DS is a bit recent really, but it's possible, especially as the 2DS never came in Japan.
Nintendo has been expanding, not contracting and so it's not them moving resources away but allocating resources to it.
Yeah, and it's quite a common thing. The confusion, misquoting etc. is why Nintendo came up with Nintendo Directs in the first place, so the gaming media wouldn't twist or ignore things and the consumer would get all the facts delivered directly to them.
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Nonsense. Sony had a decent showing last year that was heralded as a masterpiece because of the presentational flourish of stopping Microsoft's DRM strategy dead in its tracks. Microsoft unveiled more core games, but the perception was that they lost.
Do you think Nintendo's E3 last year was successful for them?
How that perception comes about is almost irrelevant. It just has to be avoided.
And, in fairness, I can well imagine journalists preferring a slick, Reggie-fronted stage show over a stilted Iwata Direct for reasons that have nothing to do with ego-stroking. Iwata's a charming presenter for most Directs, but the impact of some of Nintendo's reveals last E3 was sucked away by his presentation.
The reality of the situation is immaterial. If the press at large assumed that Nintendo skipped E3 and coverage suffered as a result, then it's on Nintendo to address that perception this year. That means a conference.
QOL product revealed - to release in the second half of 2015. Nintendo again looking to "change the industry" like they did with Wii.
Zelda U revealed - late 2015.
Metroid U revealed - late 2015.
Miyamoto's new WiiU game revealed, competitive card game heavily using the Gamepad, to release this October.
Animal Crossing U revealed, to release this November.
Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 HD revealed, to release this November.
Two new Smash U characters revealed (one is Bayonetta), to release this December.
X full reveal including new name, trailer / footage, to release this Nov in Japan, Spring 2015 in the rest of the World.
Bayonetta 2 new trailer / gameplay, to release this September.
Majora's Mask 3D revealed, to release this October.
Metroid 3DS revealed, to release this November.
Although it's hard to be a fan just now I think from MK8's release onwards it's going to be a very exciting time to be a Nintendo fan with a lot of new games and new ways of playing coming that are not available anywhere else
Pretty realistic except for the bolded. I don't think Bayonetta will be in Smash. Wonder-Red I could see, or even Viewtiful Joe if Capcom decides to let Nintendo have two mascots. And Metroid U would be awesome, but I don't think they would be developed for both Wii U and 3DS simultaneously. They probably wanna test the waters of Metroid's fan base after Other M, and 3ds has the userbase to get stronger sales
What's stopping them from just hiring new people or moving the Wii Fit/Brain Age people to this platform?
yeah it's first and foremost a trade show
That's what they're doing.
I was just trying to point it out to him lol.
LiberaTeExInferis
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Well, If John Harker is to be believed(and his tag is certainly a good point to start), then we should expect a Direct this year too...
edit:Last year,when did Nintendo firstly reveal their E3 plans?
edit:Last year,when did Nintendo firstly reveal their E3 plans?
Sure they are expanding but have we really seen any positive outcome of that? I haven't. Game releases on the WIi U have suffered as they still can not focus on their home console and hand held equally. It's one or the other. There also apparently seems like there is no marketing budget. Not when the Wii U released and for all of last year. Things are still bad. So if they're hiring new people its not freeing up people to handle other things better. Things have gotten significantly worse since the Wii's launch and continues to get worse so far this year.
So they could hire people specifically for this new QoL. However as a new form of business it will and should get more of their focus. If the gaming side of things were in a better position it wouldn't matter. However it's not and things likely could continue to get worse as it has in the past when it was suppose to be their main and only focus.
So they could hire people specifically for this new QoL. However as a new form of business it will and should get more of their focus. If the gaming side of things were in a better position it wouldn't matter. However it's not and things likely could continue to get worse as it has in the past when it was suppose to be their main and only focus.
I've no idea...but then I'm not stating as a fact that the E3 Direct got more or less viewers than the press conference usually does.
If people are claiming it as fact it had less viewers......then people should back that up with figures....rather that just making things up to suit whatever they believe.
What I do know is a pre-recorded Nintendo Direct was available in multiple languages at the same time.....meaning it had a larger potential live audience worldwide that could instantly view and understand it.
LiberaTeExInferis
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That is an excellent point.For how long have we been hearing about this expansion procedure?A year, maybe more..The thing is that we haven't yet seen something concrete coming out of this expansion.At least, some b-tier games, could have come out, in order to fill up this horrendous lineup or its lack of..
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