John Harker
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When did he say that?
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What will Nintendo do at E3 2014?
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When did he say that?
I think Miyamoto was talking about the company overall rather than he himself working on a flagship title for the QOL platform. It wouldn't really matter to me either way but he has probably already been working on something for a while.
megabytecr
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ok. It is a lovely corpse then, I love the rotten smell of MK8, Bayo 2, X, SSB. Hyrule Warriors and Zelda U.
Aquamarine
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Refreshment.01
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Hopefully to entirely skip the activity.
E3 is a paraphernalia of stupid proportions to waste develper's and gamer's time for no substantial reason, save for the benefit of the mass and speciality media.
A monumental waste of money, in the case of Nintendo even more serious, since they have been in the red for a lot of quarters.
Would prefere 2 big directs, one a month before the other athe following one.
It feels me with grief seen people invested in videogames supporting this monstrosity one way or the other.
Didn't know that. Thanks for the information. Will keep an eye on any potential youtube streams the next time.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
the reality is those games you mentioned will most likely still be shown at this years nintendo e3 because other than mk8, those games have no release dates.
GetemMa
Member
Don't get your hopes up.
Super Smash Bros (3DS)
Advanced Wars (3DS) *maybe
Monster Hunter 4 (3DS)
Contra 5 (3DS) *whatever happened to this?
Sonic Boom (WiiU/3DS)
Hyrule Warriors (WiiU)
Bayonetta 2 (WiiU)
Xenoblade 2 (WiiU)
Yoshi Yarn (WiiU)
Legend of Zelda (WiiU)
Outside of those obvious ones, I think they will delve into F2P more, perhaps with Animal Crossing F2P on the WiiU.
It won't be much. Nintendo is in a bad state right now. All they can do is put on a smile and try to sell people on their good games on their underwhelming hardware for a couple more years and then try again with new hardware. I expect no good surprises.
The amazing thing is that it is still questionable if they even have learned their lesson from the WiiU. They need a mobile/console combo system. They need partners. Big ones like Disney. They need all their software teams working on one system. Most of all, that system needs to be a good quality build, or nobody will want it.
Super Smash Bros (3DS)
Advanced Wars (3DS) *maybe
Monster Hunter 4 (3DS)
Contra 5 (3DS) *whatever happened to this?
Sonic Boom (WiiU/3DS)
Hyrule Warriors (WiiU)
Bayonetta 2 (WiiU)
Xenoblade 2 (WiiU)
Yoshi Yarn (WiiU)
Legend of Zelda (WiiU)
Outside of those obvious ones, I think they will delve into F2P more, perhaps with Animal Crossing F2P on the WiiU.
It won't be much. Nintendo is in a bad state right now. All they can do is put on a smile and try to sell people on their good games on their underwhelming hardware for a couple more years and then try again with new hardware. I expect no good surprises.
The amazing thing is that it is still questionable if they even have learned their lesson from the WiiU. They need a mobile/console combo system. They need partners. Big ones like Disney. They need all their software teams working on one system. Most of all, that system needs to be a good quality build, or nobody will want it.
I kinda agree. Some "special event" E3 Nintendo Directs with a higher production value than the regular Directs would actually be pretty cool. Like it's been said, if they do those (one for 3DS + one for Wii U) the white background needs to go. It would also be cool if all of them - Reggie, Iwata, Shibata and Miyamoto - were present at the same time, doing live demos and shit.
Almost all companies at E3 have been in the red for quite some time, and most don't have the war chest Nintendo has. Money isn't really the issue.
RPGCrazied
Member
Show off the new Zelda would be nice. Also, where is Metroid? Surely they wont abandon Samus.
If they did the Nintendo Direct of last E3 with the Developer Directs, either as a live conference or as one whole thing, I honestly can't see how anyone would have been disappointed.
The Developer Directs were very good, akin to the on-stage demos that happen at E3.
I also feel like E3 is increasingly not the type of venue for Nintendo. For the last half decade I think they've been moving into their casual space but I think while it worked early on to showcase some of this at E3 (Wii riots of 2006) the industry has been moving in a different direction getting Nascar-like sponsorships from Dew, Doritos and Taco Bell, and plastering AAA ultra-violent properties across skyscrapers. You could practically rename it "shooter-con" and it wouldn't be too off-base.
At the same time most of the truly big players have moved away from large tradeshows. Apple, Google and Amazon don't rub elbows with the plebs at CES or E3. It makes sense financially too, why spend a boatload of money to share the pie with several other people? Why not spend that same money and have a show to yourself? Even Nintendo understands it's at this point more of a ritual than a necessity and when the ritual is not performed the natives get restless. So they will go but I think they're perhaps more interested in other things. Especially with QoL stuff it perhaps makes more sense to have their own little presser sometime in October tied to an ND.
At the same time most of the truly big players have moved away from large tradeshows. Apple, Google and Amazon don't rub elbows with the plebs at CES or E3. It makes sense financially too, why spend a boatload of money to share the pie with several other people? Why not spend that same money and have a show to yourself? Even Nintendo understands it's at this point more of a ritual than a necessity and when the ritual is not performed the natives get restless. So they will go but I think they're perhaps more interested in other things. Especially with QoL stuff it perhaps makes more sense to have their own little presser sometime in October tied to an ND.
The best thing Nintendo could do at E3 is have Iwata on stage announcing his resignation and introducing some forward-thinking, innovative and renowned leader from the gaming/tech industry as the company's new President. This would be far more exciting than any individual game announcement they could possibly make at this point and much more effective at restoring my faith in the company.
And whatever they do needs to be ON the trade show's floors. Nintendo Direct is awkward and embarrassing.
And whatever they do needs to be ON the trade show's floors. Nintendo Direct is awkward and embarrassing.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
I think a round of seppuku would top off the resignation nicely. Maybe the new president could bath in his blood too.
That would be awful
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Stop using your name in the third person!!!
You've never seen an E3 press conference have you?
Refreshment.01
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1. Money is always an issue. And no, im not implying Nintendo doesn't have the funds to expend a couple of mills on the show. But since even the presient got a pay cut, then keep up with the example by cutting this unnecessary expense.
2. Related to the above. Not all companies invest equally in the event. Nintendo rents quite a big area ($), needs to accomodate more visitors than maybe 90% of the other companies ($) and also do a lot of specific asset stuff like montages, sets, statues, etc. ($).
3. Yea, a lot of now bankrupt comapnies attended the show and that didn't help their fortunes.
4. Related to the above, having a good E3 or "wining" E3 means nothing. Just ask 2 times back to back champion Sega.
5. Lot's of promising stuff gets lost in the sea of over saturation of information. Is just a contest of who holds their blow the longest to suddenly burst into a gigantic orgasm. Except is in an orgy when everyone else is doing the same thing.
6. Lot's of over worked dev teams to have the stupid E3 demo ready.
7. The true winners are the parasitic side of the industry. Not devs or gamers. Even gamers could benefit for having a more even spread of unveilings through out the yaer.
And like i said, is not like there's a real benefit of the big exposure you get at the show. Wii U been at every E3 since 2011 hasn't influenced the console in a positive or negative way. Or whatever it doesn't matter.
Now go ahead and list the vast amount of positives for attending the show my friend.
Yes, Iwata is that guy. Nintendo is just some adjustments away of greatness and that starts with them been less "cheap" and more long term thinking.
But i agree, Iwata is probably the CEO with the best understanding of gaming in the entire world.
Actually, it seems Iwata is that guy, but the board of directors holds (or held) him back. Him resigning wouldn't change a thing - in fact, he's probably more capable to change the basic structure than any outsider, especially after the Wii U failure.
Seen numerous. I'll even take Nintendo in '08 over another one of these. There's something far worse, depressing and dreary about the Directs than any momentary oddness or goofy announcers from the past. It's like they've resigned themselves to last place loser status at an outside corner, babbling at anyone who will listen, instead of being in the party with all the big players.
the press conferences aren't usually on the trade show's floors, no?
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
Hopefully another Direct. E3 is a joke and Nintendo Directs focus on what people want to see, games.
So basically talking about games makes you a loser?
Indignation
Neo Member
PLAY THE GAME!
This is basically what I get from everyone that bitches about Nintendo not doing a stage presentation.
They'd rather see pseudo celebrities dancing for 10 minutes or pretending to play Football like Microsoft and Sony do.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
People seem to still hold E3 in high regard. After the past few years they have absolutely no reason to. It's an extended commercials with some game trailers thrown in. I would just like someone to explain to me why it matters so much that Nintendo attend.
I agree, but Nintendo should revive SpaceWorld or create a similar annual press event for that. The way they're currently doing things isn't working out terribly well for them.
They've been doing a fall conference that is exactly that pretty regularly. Complete with journalists getting hands on with new games.
I feel like sometimes this is the prevailing narrative:
If Nintendo does or doesn't do X, they're terrible and Nintendo is doomed.
If anyone else does or doesn't do X, they're amazing and it's understandable.
For this Wii U owner, the only one out of those I'm mildly interested in is MK. The rest I couldn't care less about.
Hell, why should Nintendo hype their games up at all? What's the point of Nintendo Directs or trailers since they're just extended commercials for their games anyways? They should just release their games without trying to get people excited for them or get people outside of enthusiasts to learn about them, they would save more money that way.
Outside of the 10 min where they talk about games most E3 press conferences are terrible.
But everyone remembers the biggest moment of E3 2013, Sony fires shots at MS over DRM. Huge applause. We applauded the maintaining of the status quo, a complete non-announcement (for Nintendo anyway), a game console that plays used games, amazing! But a well paced video showing new games, pfft, I want Media Molecule modeling vaporware dicks.
A shark was jumped last year. It was not about software at all.
This angered me so much. Sony "won" E3 because they didn't try to fuck people over like Microsoft. Good for them, I suppose?
Oh, Nintendo showed a bunch of new trailers that looked awesome? BOO! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A WOODEN STAGE! THEN WE WOULD CARE!
Sony's show last year was shit. Outside of the announcement of ff15 and kh3 there wasn't anything groundbreaking or new.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
Only press and enthusiasts watch E3. It's not like it's the Grammy's or whatever people seem to think. Nintendo Directs ALWAYS trend on social media and related articles make the rounds online.
I think there's a misunderstanding here. Your post sounded like they wouldn't do a show because they couldn't afford it, I think they won't do it because they don't think it's worth it. And they're probably right.
Yeah, well, Iwata even said that Nintendo hardware would look quite different if it was his call. And that was years ago. He was already president at the time, which means it wasn't his call even though he was president of the company. And that, to me, means the board had way too much influence and held him back. The foundation of NERD, the fact that the team in Seattle is apparently developing their future hardware, him becoming CEO of NoA - I'm pretty sure he would have taken all those steps long ago, but he couldn't. Because the board didn't play along. But now that the Wii U failed, the 3DS struggles, and with the QoL thing on the table, he might finally have the leeway and trust (internally) to do what's necessary.
You are delusional if you think people pay more attention to Nintendo Directs than they do E3.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Exactly this. Plus, add in the irony that at the same time everyone was praising them for being pro-consumer and being better than MS, Sony also snuck in the fact that they were now copying the Xbox Live model and you now had to pay to play online.
We literally have people saying they want Nintendo not to go to E3 because it wouldn't serve them any good.
We also have people here that are questioning whether the Nintendo Directs, which are only known among hardcore enthusiasts and hardcore Nintendo fans, had more vies than their E3 press conference would have, a press event that is known to even the most "casual" of people and is globally recognized.
Wat.
Nintendo please go to E3. Nintendo, you're directs and line of thinking are only driving your fan base away.
It's honestly frustrating when a company is so full of themselves that they believe they're in a higher position than their competitors and don't need to try.
It's even more frustrating when it's a company you've grown up with and is in the exact opposite position of "best".
I could careless what anyone has to say, Nintendo should be dominating the marketshare of consoles and should be loved by game developers. They shouldn't have only dedicated fans who believe passing/subpar offerings are great.
We also have people here that are questioning whether the Nintendo Directs, which are only known among hardcore enthusiasts and hardcore Nintendo fans, had more vies than their E3 press conference would have, a press event that is known to even the most "casual" of people and is globally recognized.
Wat.
Nintendo please go to E3. Nintendo, you're directs and line of thinking are only driving your fan base away.
It's honestly frustrating when a company is so full of themselves that they believe they're in a higher position than their competitors and don't need to try.
It's even more frustrating when it's a company you've grown up with and is in the exact opposite position of "best".
I could careless what anyone has to say, Nintendo should be dominating the marketshare of consoles and should be loved by game developers. They shouldn't have only dedicated fans who believe passing/subpar offerings are great.
The faq. My friends and family, hell my friggin' grandparent, know what E3 is, and always mention when a new console is announced. Even news outlets are quick to have E3 wrap-ups. I don't know one person who talks about Nintendo Directs or are literally hyped with their Cranky Kong sticks.
yeah that rustled my jimmies a bit. Sony's whole conference was a damn travesty imo and they just topped it off with "hey guys, we're not MS!"
I actually thought MS had a better conference than Sony because they showed compelling exclusives for their new console
I don't understand the internet sometimes and the hive-mind mentality that takes it over
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
The info gets passed around the internet regardless, so if the same goal is achieved then why is E3 necessary?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
haha, I've only done it one time! I happen to be reading the thread at the time, felt like one of those 'hey guys, you're talking about me and i'm standing right in front of you!' moments
velvet_nitemare
Member
Ah there's that nintendo fan persecution complex at work again
Do you honestly believe that Nintendo games and consoles wouldn't have sold any more than if they were at E3? No wonder this company is spiraling out of relevancy, good God. Do you think it's a coincidence that their game/console sales were so bad that every thread on GAF was thinking console gaming as a whole was doomed when Wii U hardware/software sales were out post-E3?
Or maybe, just maybe, people arr honestly concerned about Nintendo's well being as fans of Nintendo? Every little negative thing they do only hurts them worse. Sony shouldn't be receiving worry for not being at PAX East because they'll do fine and they're so relevant that it isn't needed. Nintendo,who's nearly the lowest in sales despite being launched a year early, needs every little press they can get so they can get back their market share and offer more quality systems/games as a result. There is persecution or narrative, they're just things Nintendo needs to do so they can achieve that same success.
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