Captain America 3 to square off against Batman/Superman in 2016

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We're living in a world where a Thor movie (The Dark World) was only $44 million away from beating a Superman movie (MoS). That's insane to me.
 
We're living in a world where a Thor movie (The Dark World) was only $44 million away from beating a Superman movie (MoS). That's insane to me.

the first Iron Man outgrossed Batman Begins, which was in a very similar position to Man of Steel. It's not that crazy to think a movie coming off the hype of an established IP and property like Avengers would perform closely. The interesting thing will be how WB goes from here, much like TDK and TDKR dwarfed Begins once people bought into the character again.
 
Because as of their first film, they appear to be better at the directing of movies than he is?



Sure you can. I'm confused as to how what you just said is at all axiomatic. Most of the best films I've seen don't feature a guy who both wrote & directed the movie. You'd have to be able to prove that the best movies are made by a guy who wrote and directed the picture.

Now, if you wanted to argue that writing/directing is the best way to ensure purity of personal artistic vision across the board, that's something else - but since we're talking about SUPERHERO MOVIES tying into a shared continuity, personal artistic vision isn't anywhere near as much as a factor.

At that point, it's a matter of who is coming up with a great story, and who can execute it well. That doesn't NEED to be the same person.

Co-signed.
 

FTF

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Cap3 will move its release date up a couple of weeks now that they know it can hit $100m ow in April. Plus they obviously want it to have the spot light and the weekend to itself.
 

ReiGun

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Nailed what???
Wasn't she an original character created for the movie?

I don't get the love this character gets.

Nope.

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First appearance in Action #472.
 

Sacrimoni

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It's insane that Cap3 can be considered to be able to witstand Superman vs Batman. Who would have thought just few years ago...insane.


The dark knight was the last decent dc movie

Marvel pumps decent movies out on a monthly basis.

Hell even the non-marvel ones with marvel characters shame dc movies
 

LaNaranja

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Because as of their first film, they appear to be better at the directing of movies than he is?

Nah. The Russo brothers are good but they are not Joss Whedon good. I don't know what they were thinking with the sporadic use of shaky cam. That said Whedon could stand to learn a few things from the way every hit and bullet had a real sense of impact in Winter Soldier.
 

Shaanyboi

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The Russo Brothers should replace Snyder and Singer.

Snyder can be good with a good script. What needs to happen is Goyer needs to be partnered with better writers who understand... well, people. Snyder's great at visual execution and mood. He's fine when given decent footing to lift off from.
 
Snyder can be good with a good script. What needs to happen is Goyer needs to be partnered with better writers who understand... well, people. Snyder's great at visual execution and mood. He's fine when given decent footing to lift off from.

Didn't another writer go over BvS when Affleck signed on?
 

Shaanyboi

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Didn't another writer go over BvS when Affleck signed on?

Yeah, his screenwriter from Argo is reworking Goyer's script for MoS2. Which is great. But I hope this happens more often and Goyer is given purely an "ideas-man" role at most while more talented writers tackle putting it to the page.
 
I'd like to see another good Superman movie someday. It's been over 30 years.

That's pretty dependent on there being a good Superman script more than there is a good Superman director.

Snyder's a good enough director to tell a Superman story. Goyer's maybe not the best writer to be trying to WRITE one.

And now Goyer's not doing that anymore :)
 

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Either Cap moves up to this time in April or S/B move back to mid July. There are no other options, there's 3 other marvel movies that summer after Cap, there's no other spot for it. As the Avengers 2 follow up it can do $120+ OW easily. I think S/B moves to July personally and WB will say "it's to make the movie the fans deserve" or some BS like that.

They will not release the same day, both companies are just dick waving.
 

Blader

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Is the excitement over Terrio rewriting Batman/Superman less because of Terrio and more because it's not Goyer? Because iirc a lot of people here hated Argo.
 
Not sure what a video from almost a decade ago is meant to prove, especially considering Affleck's recent work. I look back at who I was 8 years ago and am not proud of who I was.

LOL that was my way of saying that Affleck doesn't always exercise the best judgement. The other way is posting a Daredevil picture, but that's played out.
 
The dark knight was the last decent dc movie

Marvel pumps decent movies out on a monthly basis.

Hell even the non-marvel ones with marvel characters shame dc movies

There's a lot wrong with this. Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel were both decent at the very worst.

DC has dropped the ball though with releasing movies. There's no denying that.
 

Tobor

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That's pretty dependent on there being a good Superman script more than there is a good Superman director.

Snyder's a good enough director to tell a Superman story. Goyer's maybe not the best writer to be trying to WRITE one.

And now Goyer's not doing that anymore :)

We'll see. He had a crack at one of the greatest comics of all time with Watchmen and couldn't knock it out of the park.
 

LaNaranja

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Are you talking about his direction or his writing?

Because his direction is good, but he's never made anything that looks as assured and moves as well as Winter Soldier.

Directing. Every scene in Winter Soldier that had multiple people on screen ended up with all but two characters being nothing more then flower pots. The Russo's seemed unable to balance multiple characters interacting at the same time.

If anyone should replace Whedon in the event of his departure it should be someone like Justin Lin who can handle scenes with several characters.
 

Shaanyboi

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LOL that was my way of saying that Affleck doesn't always exercise the best judgement. The other way is posting a Daredevil picture, but that's played out.

Except there's a lot of problems with that...

Firstly, no one always exercises the best judgement. Secondly, he was hardly the sole problem with Daredevil. And thirdly, as I said, I'm not sure how a video from 2006 is meant to be relevant to our perception of a person today.

I don't get what it has to do with anything.

We'll see. He had a crack at one of the greatest comics of all time with Watchmen and couldn't knock it out of the park.

there are people on this board that would argue otherwise
 
Except there's a lot of problems with that...

Firstly, no one always exercises the best judgement. Secondly, he was hardly the sole problem with Daredevil. And thirdly, as I said, I'm not sure how a video from 2006 is meant to be relevant to our perception of a person today.

I don't get what it has to do with anything.

Shaany, it was a joke, buddy. I thought it would be funny. No need to prod deeper than that.
 
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