Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

Huh? What gave you that impression? The 3DS and Wii U versions are on different release schedules.
I'm guessing Olimar getting only three Pikmin has something to do with that being as much as the 3DS can handle. Also the reason Pokemon Trainer is gone as well. I'm a bit worried for the Ice Climbers, but I think if the 3DS can handle Rosalina and Luma then they should be fine.
 
I like how Sakurai trolled the idea of dropping a character (ZSS), but the same the direct pretty much tells us Pokemon Trainer isn't in, likely with Squirtle and Ivysaur gone.
 
3DS this SUMMERRRRRR!!

Hype has returned. Imma play Mario Golf and Kirby straight into Smash.
 
We'll probably get at least one vet before E3...at least I'd hope so. But E3 will probably be another reveal blowout just like this direct.

Most likely, we'll get a few newcomers, and the opening cinematic to the game.

O man, I hope we get to see the intro cinematic.

If its anything like Melee's, I'm happy.
 
Anyone have the new password for the press site? I would really like to get into the kit for the direct.

someone just post a link so you can download the press site. Look few pages ago.


Also I want to post my list of items again because you will be impressed how many items that are in the game

Newcomer Items
Back Shield
Bee Hive
Blue Shell
Bombachu
Boomerang
Bullet Bill
Chest
Cucco
Drill Arm
Fairy in a Bottle
Fire Bar
Galaga (Ship)
Gust Bellows
Hocotate Spaceship
Hook Beetle
Killer Eye (Turret)
Master Ball
Ore Club
POW Block
Rocket Belt
S Flag (Rally X)
Tanooki Leaf
Torpedo Gun (Steel Diver)
X-Bomb

Veteran Items - Confirmed
Assist Trophy
Banana Peels
Barrels
Beam Sword
Blast Box
Bob-omb
Bumper
Bunny Hood
Capsule
Crates
Curry
Deku Nut
Fire Flower
Food
Franklin Badge
Freezie
Gooey Bomb
Gold Hammer
Green Shell
Hammer
Heart Container
Home Run Bat
Hothead
Lightning Bolt
Lip's Stick
Motion-Sensor Bomb
Mr. Saturn
Mushroom
Pitfall
Pokeball
Ray Gun
Sandbag
Screw Attack
Smart Bomb
Smash Ball
Smoke Ball
Spring
Soccer Ball
Star Rod
Super Scope
Team Healer
Timer
Unira
Warp Star

Item Disconfirmed to be in Smash 4
Flipper

Items that haven't announced yet
Barrel Cannon
Cracker Launcher
Dragoon
Fan
Invisible Cloak Device
Maxim Tomato
Metal Box
Party Ball
Poison Mushroom
Red Shell
Starman
Super Mushroom
Superspicy Curry
 
OMG so many screens!

Direct thoughts:
- I don't know about Ridley being a Boss still. Could still be a red herring like they did with False Palutena trophy and her stage. Stranger things have happened.
- Uh... no female Villager? I hope they're just saving this for later or let each player customize the Villager including gender because this is a no-no news by itself.
- Why oh why did they Other M/waifu'ize Zero Suit Samus? The mole is pointless and just there to give "more character" like in Other M and the model is even more a generic sexy anime space female now. And jet heels? Really? Jet boots is a good idea, but making her run in jet heels is ridiculous when you already have the Brawl template. And oh god, the yellow glow is terrible.
- No transformations anymore is a double-edged sword. Good for ZSS/Samus/Zelda/Sheik, but probably bad news for Squirtle and Ivysaur. :(
- Pokemon Trainer, Squirtle, and Ivysaur probably means cuts now. :( I hope Jigglypuff isn't cut because of Original 12 status, being just as irrelevant as Sheik but still seeing high competitive Melee play, and the fact that Pokemon reps shouldn't all be all the "cool looking bipedal dude" types.
 
I gotta say, this was a great day for information on Smash Bros. Looking forward to when people find more hidden secrets in the videos and pics tomorrow.

Also, on the topic of new avatars, I claims dibs on this when my bet is over
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Pokemon Trainer not appearing in the game bums me out since his appearance as a "character" in Brawl was so damn cool. Although I don't think we should give up hope on Squirtle or Ivysaur still appearing.
 
How can people say there's too much pokemon in this game? Then say they don't like Greninja cause they don't like his design?......what.

I'm sure those same people will be thrilled when Mewtwo, Jigglypuff, Ivysaur, and Squirtle are later confirmed

"too many pokémon" = "too many pokémon I don't know/care about"
 
For the record -- I said she looks "stripper-esque," but I like her design. ZSS looks great. And to celebrate the trio of ninja-like characters, I whipped up this:

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It's like they were deliberately posed to go together. :-D
 
I mean when he was initially charging up his water shuriken you could only make out certain parts of his body. I think it wouldve been a fair guess for Mewtwo before they fully revealled he was upside down towards the end.

I thought it was just me, but I am pretty sure you could make out that the pokemon is upside down in the silhouette before the reveal.
 
someone just post a link so you can download the press site. Look few pages ago.


Also I want to post my list of items again because you will be impressed how many items that are in the game

Newcomer Items
Back Shield
Bee Hive
Blue Shell
Bombachu
Boomerang
Bullet Bill
Chest
Cucco
Drill Arm
Fairy in a Bottle
Fire Bar
Galaga (Ship)
Gust Bellows
Hocotate Spaceship
Hook Beetle
Killer Eye (Turret)
Master Ball
Ore Club
POW Block
Rocket Belt
S Flag (Rally X)
Tanooki Leaf
Torpedo Gun (Steel Diver)
X-Bomb

Veteran Items - Confirmed
Assist Trophy
Banana Peels
Barrels
Beam Sword
Blast Box
Bob-omb
Bumper
Bunny Hood
Capsule
Crates
Curry
Deku Nut
Fire Flower
Food
Franklin Badge
Freezie
Gooey Bomb
Gold Hammer
Green Shell
Hammer
Heart Container
Home Run Bat
Hothead
Lightning Bolt
Lip's Stick
Motion-Sensor Bomb
Mr. Saturn
Mushroom
Pitfall
Pokeball
Ray Gun
Sandbag
Screw Attack
Smart Bomb
Smash Ball
Smoke Ball
Spring
Soccer Ball
Star Rod
Super Scope
Team Healer
Timer
Unira
Warp Star

Item Disconfirmed to be in Smash 4
Flipper

Items that haven't announced yet
Barrel Cannon
Cracker Launcher
Dragoon
Fan
Invisible Cloak Device
Maxim Tomato
Metal Box
Party Ball
Poison Mushroom
Red Shell
Starman
Super Mushroom
Superspicy Curry

We already have 68 items revealed, 18 more than the 49 items that are in Brawl.
 
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Getting there...


While I think it's too early whether to say the Pokemon Trainer gimmick is gone from Smash 4, I think we can say goodbye to Squirtle and Ivysaur at this point =(
 
I do think it's pretty neat how instead of removing her heels, they were proactive about it, and decided to make them serve tangible and explicit purpose. "Heel rockets" that form the basis of her whole fighting system that just happen to look like high-heels? Aint nothin wrong with that.
I think Zero Suit's heels also serve as shock absorbers, much like Chell in Portal. Allows her to fall great distances without sustaining damage.
 
Items that haven't announced yet
Maxim Tomato
Super Mushroom
Superspicy Curry
These have been confirmed. Maxim Tomato was either in the Rosalina part or Greninja trailer. Super Mushroom was in the flickr set. Superspicy Curry can be assumed from the ZSS screenshot with a bunny hood since since there is fire around her and her mouth is open and she isn't reacting to damage
 
Anyone else jumping up and down about Donkey Kong's roll attack?!?!?!?! I was campaigning on miiverse forever! I'd like to think I made a difference!

And holy smokes at ZSS, her breasts have really filled out. Not sure how I feel about it actually but it's no big deal I suppose.
 
I think Zero Suit's heels also serve as shock absorbers, much like Chell in Portal. Allows her to fall great distances without sustaining damage.

I think they also propel her into the air like rocket-powered springs. It's a pretty good way to make them look like they could be practical.
 
I'm totally ok with ZSS's new look. They refreshed her to match the latest game just like Samus, while also giving the dumb heels an explanation and a purpose.
 
I think they also propel her into the air like rocket-powered springs.
Well, yes, I assumed that part was a bit more obvious, lol

On a side note, it's cool how these vets got title cards. But it feels appropriate: ZSS, Sheik and Charizard are now standalone characters, so they're like a half-step between "veteran" and "newcomer," in a way, while Yoshi has been overhauled so much visually that he might as well be a different character.
 
For people doubting Captain Falcon, Samurai Goroh was shown as a returning AT in the beggining of the video. If for any weird reason they were to remove Falcon as a playable character, they'd surely not keep Goroh as an AT...

Anyway, the Direct was amazing. These games will have so much content, it's almost ridiculous. We'll have like 50 Assist Trophies and like 100 items lol.

I'm glad Mother items are back. Go Ness!

GameXplain has a loooooooooooooooooooooooot of work to do haha

Sakurai, singlehandedly keeping gamexplain from taking a day off haha
 
Heath, I definitely saw a mushroom and a tomato.

These have been confirmed. Maxim Tomato was either in the Rosalina part or Greninja trailer. Super Mushroom was in the flickr set. Superspicy Curry can be assumed from the ZSS screenshot with a bunny hood since since there is fire around her and her mouth is open and she isn't reacting to damage

Alright I already adjusted original post with super mushroom and maxim Tomato. I would prefer to see solid evidence of Curry itself.
 
I sure do wonder what the difference between the Fairy and the Heart Container are gonna be. Just different amounts of health? Then what about the Maxim Tomato? THREE stages of health recovery?
 
Seeing that Greninja Pokemon is almost tempting me to buy Pokemon X now. But I need to hold off for Kirby Triple Deluxe.
200+ hours of Pokémon XY that never grew dull say, "Nah, just go for Pokémon."

Word to the wise about Greninja, though -- the one you want to raise competitively is the Protean variant, and you'll have to trade for it. Easy enough to obtain, though -- Poké-GAF breeds 'em by the bucketful.
 
I sure do wonder what the difference between the Fairy and the Heart Container are gonna be. Just different amounts of health? Then what about the Maxim Tomato? THREE stages of health recovery?

Maxim Tomato heals 50%, Heart Container heals 100%, Fairy heals an unspecified amount (Probably 999%)
 
Also, for pokemon, we have

Charizard Fire / Flying
Greninja Water / Dark
Lucario Fighting / Steel
Pikachu Electric
[Jigglypuff] Normal / Faerie

Which is 9 of the 18 types. Exactly half

You think we'll get any other types represented?

Mewtwo would bring psychic back!
Venusaur would knock out grass/poison

What other popular pokemon would cover the remaining types? I honestly have nothing for Ice.

Ice would be Mamoswine. Ice shard all the things.
 
ZSS was my secondary main in Brawl and I'm loving her newest design, probably my favourite suitless design for her ever. Still need to see Suited Samus's missiles better god damn, Brawl missiles were so worthless =/


Can't main Suited Samus anyways though since that's my brother's character. He's been Samus and I've been Link ever since N64 days.
 
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