Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

I really hope Captain Falcon returns. I love to use his falcon punch move with Kirby. Pretty adorable when Kirby said "Falcon Punch!"
 
So are the Mega Evolutions for Lucario and Charizard their Final Smashes? The way they rolled out Mega Lucario seems more like an Aura tie-in. And Mega Charizard X doesn't appear to glow like a Final Smash. Are they possibly transformations triggered under other conditions, I.E. sustaining a certain amount of damage?
 
Man, rewatching the Direct might have bumped Sheik up to a mainstay for me. The new Side B screams gimmickry of the highest order combined with her needle game.
 
So are the Mega Evolutions for Lucario and Charizard their Final Smashes? The way they rolled out Mega Lucario seems more like an Aura tie-in. And Mega Charizard X doesn't appear to glow like a Final Smash. Are they possibly transformations triggered under other conditions, I.E. sustaining a certain amount of damage?

If it required that then Lucario's aura mechanic is even more pointless than ever before.
 
I absolutely love what they did to Zero Suit Samus. She looks amazing in HD and the kick attacks are such a cool idea! Also, it was obvious Yoshi would come back, still cool to see him confirmed. I like his new stance.

The Jigglypuff cut though. That hurt. :(
 
I don't get it. If Ridley is too big then there are other options.

How about just fucking split Zero Suit Samus off of regular instead of making the awful final smash transformation. It fucks the character. I literally have to get the smash ball when it comes up or I am at an extreme disadvantage. Then I'm stuck playing with her even if I die until I can get it again to swap back.

Fuckin pisses me off to no end.

How about dark Samus? How about a space pirate?

I would be okay if she transformed, hell even off the final smash if when I died I reset into the suit.

Sure.. but the point is that I can't play as regular samus. Not ZSS.

Also I have no choice but to switch who I'm playing as or let my opponent use a smash attack.

There is no other character who has this disadvantage. It also makes no sense that it doesn't reset upon death. Samus was fucked by final smashes.

Quoting myself to just go ahead and say YES!

This is EXACTLY what i wanted. Posted those like a week ago lol. It was bullshit the transformation, it's not fair to either character, and I'm very VERY happy they fixed this.

So excited to play as both iterations of samus now!
 
Please stop keeping the Issac hype alive =( and we have golden sun coming to Wii U VC soon....>.>

Wii U VC Golden Sun is exactly why you keep the Isaac hype alive!

Well considering what we've seen in the direct, I'm going to assume that we get 49 character slots + Random, for a nice and even 50 unique characters slots across both systems.

That is believable enough I guess.

We have 29 characters revealed so far, 6 of which have been newcomers. There are 14 characters left to add from Brawl assuming that Squirtle and Ivysaur are cut. Assuming there are no more cuts, that brings the final roster to 43 characters with a maximum of 6 more newcomers to reveal.

However, cuts are imminent and will happen as much as I'd like all the characters to stay. If we take that into account, we can further cut down the list by morphing Ness and Lucas into a single character with a combined moveset. We can do the same with both remaining Star Fox Characters.

I don't think it's possible that one of Wolf or Falco will get cut (likely Wolf if I go along with this scenario.) We had Star Fox 3DS. As for a Lucas cut, it sounds believable on the surface but I really don't think this is likely, even without Earthbound on the VC.

That brings the number of returning characters to 12. However we can further cut down this list assuming that Ike and Snake get cut, which I really hope doesn't happen. This cuts the list to 10 veterans, 6 cuts. The final stretch, improbable as it may be, is an Ice Climbers cut. People brought this up because of possible limitations from the 3DS version.

Ike and Snake are gone. Ice Climbers not likely. Where's this 3DS speculation--are people saying the 3DS couldn't handle them or something? I thought the 3DS was at least as powerful, if not more so, than the Gamecube. I don't think ROB is coming back, much as he totally captures the Nintendo banner. Was cut from Mario Kart after DS, for whatever reason. I think Game and Watch is returning. Everyone else is back.

From that we can assume at WORST we get 9 veterans left and 7 cuts.

Now going off of the Gematsu leak, the remaining characters that they've listed out are Palutena, Shulk, Chrom, Rhythm Fever, and Pac-Man and Mii (I don't want Pac-Man in the game, I don't care about the Mii).

Man, fuck the gematsu leak. Pac-Man fucking sucks. eShop Pac Man compilation got axed too, and the Ghostly Adventures seems to have failed to gain traction. I can't help but be skeptical of these leaks, besides wanting Isaac. What happened to the leak that claimed Layton when like Smash 4 wasn't even revealed?

We need Klonoa. The People demand Klonoa. It is the only way.

Plus, ware my waifu Isaac/Robin

Anyway, Palutena is definite, Chrom is likely (or at least, a 2nd Fire Emblem character,) Shulk I'm honestly not too sure about, couldn't comment on Rhythm Fever, Mii is depressingly understandable.

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Just wanted to comment on Marth's new Neutral B. It lunges forward depending on the charge. noooooooooo
 
I for one, am glad as hell that the 3DS version is coming first. I want the U one to be as excellent as Sakurai can make it, so more time in the burner is not an issue to me. Plus, I'll be able to scratch dat Smash itch with the 3DS version. I want this on my hands NOW.
 
So are the Mega Evolutions for Lucario and Charizard their Final Smashes? The way they rolled out Mega Lucario seems more like an Aura tie-in. And Mega Charizard X doesn't appear to glow like a Final Smash. Are they possibly transformations triggered under other conditions, I.E. sustaining a certain amount of damage?

Giga Bowser and Wario Man (from Brawl) don't have that Final Smash glow either.
 
The greatest and worst thing about this is that as soon as the 3DS version gets out, we'll know who all the playable character are.
Very aptly put. Which means the WiiU has the odd distinction of being the "massive upgrade" and "definitive edition" while also missing out the magic and mystery that comes with discovering the main attraction -- the characters -- for the first time.

Giga Bowser and Wario Man (from Brawl) don't have that Final Smash glow either.
Ah, good point. I guess they're probably Final Smashes then. Shame, since I always turn off Smash Balls but I really want to play Mega Charizard X, lol.
 
Isn't the whip a major invention? Most of her attacks use it and it's completely out of thin air.
A lot of Smash Bros. characters have mostly invented move sets. For instance, Pit splitting his bow into two blades was created for Brawl (though Sakurai reused the concept in Uprising, so now it makes canonical sense). The Ice Climbers have one attack in their source game, but Sakurai managed to create an entire move set for them. R.O.B.'s attacks are all original. And of course, there's also Captain Falcon and the Star Fox characters.
 
The game looks gorgeous in the native 1080 screenshots.

I assume you guys don't need me to upload these (there are like 300)?

Since Charizard is apparently standalone now I think Ridley is even more likely to make the cut.

Wasn't Ridley essentially confirmed as a stage hazard in this?
 
of course he will return



definitely not, given that Mega Lucario always has max aura

If it requires super high damage to become Mega Lucario then its just as bad as the old aura mechanic, and if it doesnt then the aura mechanics is waste since youll just power up at the earliest opportunity and get max anyways.
 
If it requires super high damage to become Mega Lucario then its just as bad as the old aura mechanic, and if it doesnt then the aura mechanics is waste since youll just power up at the earliest opportunity and get max anyways.
If by "the earliest opportunity" you mean if by chance you get the smash ball. And it only lasts for however long.
 
The greatest and worst thing about this is that as soon as the 3DS version gets out, we'll know who all the playable character are.

Yeah, that's gonna be kinda weird.

I'm sure there will still be some cool, Wii U exclusive secrets, though.



I wonder if the 3DS version will be compatible with the circle pad pro... might need to get one.
 
Have we seen 3DS Final Destination?

Every 3DS stage is a final destination... :v

I really really hate myself for not pre-ordering 3DS Smash at E3 last year when I coulda gotten it for $27. I never in my wildest dreams expected the differences to be so stark.
 
Wii U VC Golden Sun is exactly why you keep the Isaac hype alive!



That is believable enough I guess.



I don't think it's possible that one of Wolf or Falco will get cut (likely Wolf if I go along with this scenario.) We had Star Fox 3DS. As for a Lucas cut, it sounds believable on the surface but I really don't think this is likely, even without Earthbound on the VC.



Ike and Snake are gone. Ice Climbers not likely. Where's this 3DS speculation--are people saying the 3DS couldn't handle them or something? I thought the 3DS was at least as powerful, if not more so, than the Gamecube. I don't think ROB is coming back, much as he totally captures the Nintendo banner. Was cut from Mario Kart after DS, for whatever reason. I think Game and Watch is returning. Everyone else is back.



Man, fuck the gematsu leak. Pac-Man fucking sucks. eShop Pac Man compilation got axed too, and the Ghostly Adventures seems to have failed to gain traction. I can't help but be skeptical of these leaks, besides wanting Isaac. What happened to the leak that claimed Layton when like Smash 4 wasn't even revealed?

We need Klonoa. The People demand Klonoa. It is the only way.

Plus, ware my waifu Isaac/Robin

Anyway, Palutena is definite, Chrom is likely (or at least, a 2nd Fire Emblem character,) Shulk I'm honestly not too sure about, couldn't comment on Rhythm Fever, Mii is depressingly understandable.

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Just wanted to comment on Marth's new Neutral B. It lunges forward depending on the charge. noooooooooo

It's not like I believe the Gematsu leak either, I don't want Pac Man and would rather have a Tales rep but let's be serious here.

We've seen items come out and most of the things we've seen with SSB4 are going back to the Arcade and 8 Bit Roots.

Here are links for the predictions
Character Slot Predictions
Stage Slot Predictions

I'd like to at least keep this debate going seeing that the game is wrapping itself up.
 
I gotta say though, the only bad thing I took away from this Direct is that Squirtle and Ivysaur are probably gone. A shame, but you can't have it all.
 
I've got them all. There's 72 different items confirmed as of right now. From Blue Shell to Bullet Bill to Franklin's Badge to a weird flag to a beehive to the Superscope
The weird flag is a Namco arcade thing

Also, what's he E4 stage I've heard people mention?
 
Did anyone notice that, before Sakurai introduced the Assist Trophies, he mentioned how they were important to "All Stars".

What did he mean?
 
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I love that.
 
I gotta say though, the only bad thing I took away from this Direct is that Squirtle and Ivysaur are probably gone. A shame, but you can't have it all.

Pokemon Trainer is gone, I can see why people are worried about the other two but I don't see the need to jump to conclusions. If we apply the "no teams" rule, Brawl had 6 Pokemon. (Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Pokemon Trainer's team)

For Smash 4 we have Pikachu, Charizard, Lucario, and Greninja. Jigglypuff is extremely likely to still happen, but even then we are still below Brawl's overall number of Pokemon at 5. I assume if Squirtle or Ivysaur make it in, then so too will the other one, and at that point we are at 7 which is just above Brawl's number. We'd also be back at square one regarding Mewtwo.
 
ZSS is so attractive, but I can't put my finger on it... What could it be... Hmm...

Wait a second...

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THE HUNTER HAS DEFECTED TO THE RUSSIANS
 
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