Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

ZSS is so attractive, but I can't put my finger on it... What could it be... Hmm...
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Who is that?
 
I've got them all. There's 72 different items confirmed as of right now. From Blue Shell to Bullet Bill to Franklin's Badge to a weird flag to a beehive to the Superscope

I already have those Wii U screenshots but I haven't seen 3DS screenshots from the press kit.
 
IT'S OKAY GUYS WE STILL GOT BAYONETTA, SHE'S JUST BLONDE THIS TIME AROUND.

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I still think even after the Nintendo Direct, tonight will have Blonde Bayonetta in it.
 
It's not like I believe the Gematsu leak either, I don't want Pac Man and would rather have a Tales rep but let's be serious here.

We've seen items come out and most of the things we've seen with SSB4 are going back to the Arcade and 8 Bit Roots.

Here are links for the predictions
Character Slot Predictions
Stage Slot Predictions

I'd like to at least keep this debate going seeing that the game is wrapping itself up.

Oh no, don't misunderstand me. Pac-Man is definitely the most likely Bamco addition. I just hate him.

I want to add something in about roster count though. If the roster is the same between both platforms, and the 3DS version is launching in (to be generous) late summer, how exactly are they going to be handling these reveals? Assuming a hypothetical 20 more to go, the pace is more than one a week. This is somewhat doable if you reveal a few at say, E3, but after that there aren't any other big gaming events. Tokyo Game Show is in the Fall. Maybe, maybe, EVO will get a reveal. Even if you had bi-monthly Smash Directs that's only six until you hit August, which is the deadline for the roster

It's not totally outlandish as they can just quietly reveal veterans like Falco just as they've revealed Diddy Kong and King Dedede, without any huge event or anything.

Who is that?

The recently appointed Attorney General of Crimea. She's cute so shortly after the press conference described people drew her anime style and generally did all sorts of fan art of her so she became super popular. Google "crimea attorney general" and go to town
 
It's not unthinkable that Pokémon could have eight reps:

- Pikachu
- Jigglypuff
- Squirtle
- Ivysaur
- Charizard
- Mewtwo
- Lucario
- Greninja

Reasons:

- Sakurai didn't specifically state that Squirtle and Ivysaur are gone.
- Squirtle and Ivysaur are unique and already designed.
- Pokémon is one of Nintendo's best-selling franchises and has 720+ characters -- might as well have eight reps.
 
The games share items, much like characters.

It'd be somewhat unusual for Maxim Tomato, Poison Mushroom etc. to be 3DS exclusive, but I have 28 3DS screenshots of items, several of multiple.

All Assist Trophy images are Wii U at this time

Can I see the 3DS shots?
 
There's no way Zelda and Pokemon get anymore reps. Mario has 5 reps and its Nintendo's biggest franchise, no other franchise is gonna surpass that. All that's left for character reveals for Zelda and Pokemon are Ganondorf and Jigglypuff.
 
For the record -- I said she looks "stripper-esque," but I like her design. ZSS looks great. And to celebrate the trio of ninja-like characters, I whipped up this:

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It's like they were deliberately posed to go together. :-D

They all look amazing in motion. Greninja is....I wanted Impa but this is probably the best alternative that could have happened. Can't wait to yell out random jitsu skills at my bro. AND I'll finally get to use a Shiny Greninja. I'm assuming that color scheme is in. lol.
 
Natalia Poklonskaya, Prosecutor General of the Republic of Crimea. She's kind of nuts and is listed as a wanted criminal in Ukraine.
I was under the impression she's against the wanton bloodshed, but I don't really know her deal. I just know she'd make a good Cammy to Putin's M. Bison in an eventual real-life Street Fighter, and/or a good Lt. Noin to Putin's Zechs in a real-life Gundam Wing.
 
Oh no, don't misunderstand me. Pac-Man is definitely the most likely Bamco addition. I just hate him.

I want to add something in about roster count though. If the roster is the same between both platforms, and the 3DS version is launching in (to be generous) late summer, how exactly are they going to be handling these reveals? Assuming a hypothetical 20 more to go, the pace is more than one a week. This is somewhat doable if you reveal a few at say, E3, but after that there aren't any other big gaming events. Tokyo Game Show is in the Fall. Maybe, maybe, EVO will get a reveal. Even if you had bi-monthly Smash Directs that's only six until you hit August, which is the deadline for the roster

It's not totally outlandish as they can just quietly reveal veterans like Falco just as they've revealed Diddy Kong and King Dedede, without any huge event or anything.



The recently appointed Attorney General of Crimea. She's cute so shortly after the press conference described people drew her anime style and generally did all sorts of fan art of her so she became super popular. Google "crimea attorney general" and go to town

No what's more likely is that we'll get reveals as we've seen and most of the characters we've seen up till now are starters and a few secret characters.

Once the 3DS comes out, it'll take a while to unlock a roster of 49 characters so I honestly think they will pump out Secret Character reveals and how to unlock them in the time remaining up till the Wii U release.

Everything else remains the same in terms of mechanics, stages, etc.

Seeing that the 3DS and Wii U play differently, I could also expect that we don't get anymore reveals at all bar maybe 2-3 newcomers. That way we can focus specifically on 3DS stages and mechanics and flesh those out until the 3DS releases.

After that you can work off the Wii U.
 
Oh, the Dragon elite four chamber. Looks nice. Would've loved the Water one but eh. Imagine how hardcore the Champion chamber would've looked. Shiny whiteness everywhere.

It appears to move. There's a bit in the trailer that's in the main hub of the Pokémon League
 
Gamexplain was talking about how the new master ball item is a guaranteed powerful pokemon attack but that's not necessarily true. You could wind up with a dud like Mew, Celebi, or Jirachi.
 
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Updated my roster with the new updates. ZSS and Sheik were easy to slot in with the removal of Ridley and Tom Nook, but I still want to have Mewtwo so I'm going to have to redo the whole thing to fit him with the other Pokemon. Might do that on the weekend.
 
The new direct as awesome as it was has gotten me a tinnnnnnny bit worried about the balance again...Really hope he makes everyone as good as he can :(
 
The recently appointed Attorney General of Crimea. She's cute so shortly after the press conference described people drew her anime style and generally did all sorts of fan art of her so she became super popular. Google "crimea attorney general" and go to town

Okay, JAST's April Fools joke makes a lot more sense now.
 
No what's more likely is that we'll get reveals as we've seen and most of the characters we've seen up till now are starters and a few secret characters.

Once the 3DS comes out, it'll take a while to unlock a roster of 49 characters so I honestly think they will pump out Secret Character reveals and how to unlock them in the time remaining up till the Wii U release.

Everything else remains the same in terms of mechanics, stages, etc.

Seeing that the 3DS and Wii U play differently, I could also expect that we don't get anymore reveals at all bar maybe 2-3 newcomers. That way we can focus specifically on 3DS stages and mechanics and flesh those out until the 3DS releases.

After that you can work off the Wii U.

by "a while" you mean "someone will unlock all characters within the first day and tell the internet how" right
 
So far, 2/3 "Zelda Trinity" characters have two character slots (Link with Toon Link, Zelda with Shiek.) Any chance they'll complete the set by adding Blue Pig Ganon?
 
You know, I'm taking a second look at ZSS and just... The boots are starting to look a bit gaudy now. They add a ridiculous amount of height on Samus, who is already pretty tall, and have that bright yellow glow on them. It just doesn't look good in the blue suit, you know? Maybe they should have went with the Hollywood approved blue and orange contrast.

Not that this will stop me from enjoying playing her.
 
Can someone make a list of all the songs they played during the Direct.
Sure, new arrangements are bold.

0:00 - 0:28 - SSB4 Main Theme [new arrangement]
1:55 - 2:27 - Menu 2 (Super Smash Bros. Melee) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLolVfuAyQY
2:31 - 3:08 - How to Play (Super Smash Bros. Melee) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnIZbWT4nY
3:10 - 3:48 - Battlefield ver. 2 (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lo_Losjsvs
3:56 - 4:24 - Dark Pit's Theme (Kid Icarus Uprising) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COgGsetFrCM
4:25 - 4:56 - Daytime Minigame (Animal Crossing: New Leaf) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBYi3WAGOGc
4:57 - 5:25 - Good Egg Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GurdjJOhsQs
5:26 - 6:09 - Ballad of the Goddess (The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword) [new arrangement]
6:10 - 7:28 - Mega Man 2 Title Theme [new arrangement]
7:33 - 7:35 - Melee Menu Theme (Super Smash Bros. Brawl remix) [this plays before every Trophy Quiz, I won't list them all] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6jOHCpFpXo
7:35 - 7:40 - Id ~ Purpose (Fire Emblem: Awakening) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOoWE7-dh5g
7:40 - 7:48 - Fire Emblem Victory (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0T4xx_Z4w8
7:55 - 8:36 - Menu 1 (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4OijX3OEGs
8:37 - 9:45 - Melee Menu Theme (Super Smash Bros. Brawl remix) [again]
9:53 - 10:04 - Menu 2 (Super Smash Bros. Melee) [again]
10:27 - 10:41 - SSB4 Main Theme [same new arrangement as before]
12:13 - 12:58 - Waiting Room (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgFHu-S4wi8
13:06 - 14:04 - Rocket Barrel (Donkey Kong Country Returns) [new arrangement]
14:12 - 14:17 - Ballad of the Goddess (Skyward Sword) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN1vFESbfZk
14:17 - 14:24 - The Legend of Zelda Victory (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYH5ZPP4s0
14:39 - 15:43 - Area 6 (Star Fox 64) [new arrangement]
16:21 - 17:18 - Pokemon Stadium (Super Smash Bros. Melee) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxIQWdPhmk0
17:33 - 18:00 - Brinstar (Super Smash Bros. Melee) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owxg-wH9Pdo
18:16 - 18:44 - Theme of Samus Aran, Space Warrior (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPkImiUzdBk
18:45 - 19:17 - Fairy Fountain (The Legend of Zelda series) [new arrangement]
19:19 - 19:43 - Gerudo Valley (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time) [new arrangement]
19:45 - 20:27 - Green Greens (Kirby series) [new arrangement]
19:46 - 21:03 - Poke Floats (Super Smash Bros. Melee - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPkImiUzdBk
21:05 - 22:04 - Map Music (Pikmin) [new arrangement]
22:05 - 22:45 - Boss Battle 1 (Kid Icarus Uprising) [credit to MrSaturn99 for identifying this one] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwPLsIP1AmI
22:53 - 23:23 - Yoshi's Island [new arrangement]
23:31 - 23:35 - Intro (Kid Icarus: Uprising) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts91h-WzVG4
23:35 - 23:40 - Kid Icarus Victory (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIeFTd-BeMk
23:48 -24:32 - Comet Observatory (Super Mario Galaxy) [new arrangement]
24:35 - 25:17 - Gusty Garden Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcZhJDUFb58
25:19 - 26:18 - Punch-Out!! Main Theme [new arrangement]
26:18 - 27:17 - Training Theme (Punch-Out!!) [new arrangement from Little Mac's trailer]
27:18 - 27:35 - Mac Down/Main Theme (Punch-Out!!) [new arrangement, likely part of the main theme arrangement before]
27:36 - 27:51 - Mac Down (Punch-Out!!) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3IZjfvXvIE
27:52 - 28:33 - Kapp'n's Song (Animal Crossing: New Leaf) [new arrangement]
28:34 - 29:17 - Spark Man (Mega Man 3) [new arrangement]
29:24 - 30:19 - Hula Hoop (Wii Fit) [credit to MrSaturn99 for identifying this one too, what a great guy] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q84FLyWDSAE
30:20 - 30:52 - SSB4 Main Theme [again, same new arrangement]
31:01 - 31:04 - Ridley's Theme (Metroid: Other M) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90f9wfZKF9o
31:05 - 31:10 - Metroid Victory Theme (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO4rf5ZuFoQ
31:27 - 33:40 - Melee Menu Theme (Super Smash Bros. Brawl remix) [again, this is like his favorite song I guess]
33:43 - 34:31 - SSB4 Main Theme [again, same new arrangement, though I think this is the longest version]
34:33 - end of Direct - SSB Credits Theme [new arrangement]

The new music in SSB4 sounds absolutely delightful thusfar, I have to say.
 
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