Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

I dunno, the fact that she was shown as a trophy makes me think otherwise.

Pseudo-Palutena shown as a troll. ( I did actually shout at the screen when I saw her) and Pit's Final Smash is changed to remove her.

I still think that leak is fake, but unless she was being added, I don't see why Sakurai would change the Angel Army thing.
 
Well there you go then. If anything that strengthens the argument that Ridley is probably playable since in Other M it was normal Ridley in that room.

Ehh, i would love playable ridley as much as the next person but that is not mecha or meta ridley, thats other m ridley's tail. I demonstarted yesterday showing other m's ridley and pointing the shadow beneath being the tail. If you see the whole video and not only a screen you can teel his whole body passes and what you are seeing its the tail.

Here you have:
People who are saying Ridley in Pyrosphere is meta ridley. IS NOT.

Its not the wing, its clearly Ridley other m version's tail.

If you see the video, you can see his whole body pass and the screen is his last bit.
People who are saying Ridley in Pyrosphere is meta ridley. IS NOT.

Its not the wing, its clearly Ridley other m version's tail.

If you see the video, you can see his whole body pass and the screen is his last bit.
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Also, they should allow you to play Bayonetta 2 as Zerosuit Samus.

I'm expecting this. The first one had Sega costumes didn't it?

One word: DLC.

For the release of Smash Bros Wii U we will release 5 new challengers on both platforms!

Comes included on the Wii U version, $10 DLC on 3DS version a week or so later (to give people time to unlock them on Wii U and be surprised). Would be great!
 
So close to every character reveal I care about :)

I'm just missing Lucas, Falcon, Falco, and Shiggy.. Except for shiggy they all have a pretty high chance of making it in I guess.

And I'm still holding out for King K. Rool as a newcomer. Or at least a stage hazard for a DKC2 pirate stage. I could live with that I think.
 
SOOOOOOOOOOO

HOW DO ASSIST TROPHIES FEATURE INTO ALL-STARS MODE, GUYS?

Maybe they can be like Assists in the original Marvel vs Capcom? Chose one of them and then they can be summoned "x" number of times per battle, depending on how good they are? They did show that item selection screen for the Smash Run mode, which seemed to allow multiples of items too. So the mechanics for something like that are already in place.
 
Yes. We should know the entire roster when it comes out.

Yes, but we will still have things like stages and music as surprises.

I wonder if they'll add new characters to the WiiU version and then add them as free DLC for the 3DS once discovered or something?
I'm hoping they move maps across eventually, even if it is paid DLC/free for those who bought the other version and paid for everyone else.
I want my sector Z on WiiU:(
 
So close to every character reveal I care about :)

I'm just missing Lucas, Falcon, Falco, and Shiggy.. Except for shiggy they all have a pretty high chance of making it in I guess.

And I'm still holding out for King K. Rool as a newcomer. Or at least a stage hazard for a DKC2 pirate stage. I could live with that I think.

You mentioning Lucas made me realize that Ness is yet to be confirmed...Please don't do this to me Nintendo
 
You mentioning Lucas made me realize that Ness is yet to be confirmed...Please don't do this to me Nintendo

We've seen the two Earthbound items from Brawl already though. So it doesn't seem likely they're dropping Earthbound. I guess Ness might be getting tweaked, like Yoshi. They seem to be simplifying all "special" recovery moves, so maybe Ness' special attacks are getting revamped due to that.
 
I wonder if they'll add new characters to the WiiU version and then add them as free DLC for the 3DS once discovered or something?
I'm hoping they move maps across eventually, even if it is paid DLC/free for those who bought the other version and paid for everyone else.
I want my sector Z on WiiU:(

Whether DLC or unlockable I could totally see them adding classic versions of Sheik/Zelda and maybe Brawl ZSS if anything else could be part of the Custom Moveset system.
 
You mentioning Lucas made me realize that Ness is yet to be confirmed...Please don't do this to me Nintendo

How would he not after Nintendo made a big deal about Earthbound being in the Wii U VC.
 
With regards to characters now that Yoshi has been announced (and Marth too) I'm missing Ice Climbers (who will probably be in as the lone representatives) and Jiggly Puff (with 5 Pokemon I'm worried).
Ness is certain surely, after the Earthbound re-release last year?
 
Whether DLC or unlockable I could totally see them adding classic versions of Sheik/Zelda and maybe Brawl ZSS if anything else could be part of the Custom Moveset system.

That would be interesting actually.
I'd like to see them support MK and Smash in the long term, I'll buy ANYTHING for Smash (even costumes) and for MK I'd buy quite a few different things.
 
With regards to characters now that Yoshi has been announced (and Marth too) I'm missing Ice Climbers (who will probably be in as the lone representatives) and Jigglypuff (with 5 Pokemon I'm worried).
Ness is certain surely, after the Earthbound re-release last year?
She's one of the Original 12 & we technically had 6 Pokémon in Brawl counting Red's. Jigglypuff's fine.

There's also the Franklin Badge coming back, so Ness will definitely follow.
 
what the fuck did they do to Samus

what the fuck


In other news, I love the Greninja inclusion, though.
 
We still don't know much about the connection between Wii U and 3DS (except that the customizable movesets are probably cross save)
Maybe there will be cross-platform unlockable characters exclusive to people only who buy both games?
Mii - "Cross Save a customizable moveset 20 times"
Mewto - "Play at least 500 matches on each platform"

That would make the fact, that 3DS version is releasing earlier pretty much irrelevant (marketing-wise), right?
Well maybe not irrelevant.
 
Regarding the roster: Did I hear it right that he said that all characters currently on the site will be on both platforms?

I suspect there's nothing to it - it's just reassurance of the complete roster being shared - but that does sound a little like there may be some platform-unique unlockables.
 
She's one of the Original 12 & we technically had 6 Pokémon in Brawl counting Red's. Jigglypuff's fine.

There's also the Franklin Badge coming back, so Ness will definitely follow.

That's the reason that I'm holding out hope. I don't think they'd get rid of Jiggly, but I'd be sad if hey did.
She(?) may not be the best character, but is the most fun to play with/most adorable.
 
Wii U/3DS Roster as of yesterday - 29 total
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Missing from the N64 game - 3
Ness
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
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Missing from GC not including the ones from N64 - 9
Dr. Mario
Ganondorf
Falco
Ice Climbers
Young Link
Pichu
Mewtwo
Mr. Game & Watch
Roy
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Missing from the Wii game not including those from N64 and GC - 8
Meta Knight
Pokemon Trainer
Ike
Snake
Wolf
Wario
R.O.B.
Lucas
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Total of Missing Characters - 20

Sakurai already said that if he posted all the Final Smashes, it would take over a month worth of posts, so that confirms at least 30 characters, leaving at least 1 more reveal.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADMUKloNVHVtg
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But we know that can't be it! Brawl has 35 characters. This game must have more than that!

What I think

I think there could be about 15 more characters. If there is one more row of 9 than in Brawl, with one spot left for Random, that's 15 more for a total of 44.

Ness -
Captain Falcon -
Jigglypuff - 3 Original cast members. I doubt they would leave them out.

Dr. Mario - Maybe as a costume for Mario.
Ganondorf - Most likely in as an unlockable.
Falco - Most likely in as an unlockable.
Ice Climbers - Probably cut after hearing Sakurai's comments.
Young Link - Doubtul.
Pichu - Nope!
Mewtwo - Doubtful.
Mr. Game & Watch - Would be weird if he wasn't in after 2 games, but maybe he will be cut.
Roy - Probably replaced with Chrom.
Meta Knight - Definitely in.
Pokemon Trainer - Probably cut, since Charizard is now a standalone character.
Ike - Probably replaced with Chrom.
Snake - Gone! Snake?! Snake?! Snaaaake!
Wolf - Probably unlockable.
Wario - I think he'll be in. He's too big to leave out.
R.O.B. - Definitely coming back with a Virtual Boy strapped to his head and packing an NES Zapper.
Lucas - Probably cut.
 
I wonder if smash will see post release support from Nintendo.

I could imagine them doing at least one round of free DLC stage + character.
 
Sakurai already said that if he posted all the Final Smashes, it would take over a month worth of posts, so that confirms at least 30 characters, leaving at least 1 more reveal.

There's only ~20 weekdays/PotD every month, so he probably meant the roster he already revealed by that time. Unless 9 characters don't have final smashes now. xD

Pokemon Trainer - Probably cut, since Charizard is now a standalone character.

Isn't Pokémon Trainer definitely cut, since Sakurai mentioned to cut all of the transformable mechanics and make every character stand-alone?
I was like: "Ok goodbye Pokémon Trainer" at that point, so I was happy to see at least Charizard later on.
 
It is not like anyone has answers but this was something on my mind.

Sakurai mentioned the Nintendo Network ID is used for multiplayer. Being someone who NNID is unsuitable for their 3DS (because the idiots at NCL lock you into one country) does that mean I'm not able to play online multiplayer? My glimmer of hope is it was not specified either way yet (though if it was Wii U only he would have said).

Isn't Pokémon Trainer definitely cut, since Sakurai mentioned to cut all of the transformable mechanics and make every character stand-alone?
I was like: "Ok goodbye Pokémon Trainer" at that point, so I was happy to see at least Charizard later on.
I think transforms are cut for performance issues. Having to keep the character loaded in RAM or load them when you switch don't work. Also having the trainer in the BG uses up resources. I hope the Trainer makes an appearance as an AT. Even if all he does is throw a Pokeball and vanish.
 
I wonder if smash will see post release support from Nintendo.

I could imagine them doing at least one round of free DLC stage + character.

If absolutely nothing else, I suspect they might tweak the balance for the Wii U version based on feedback from the 3DS version and may well patch that back into the 3DS.
 
Wii U/3DS Roster as of yesterday - 29 total
7uoN3rq.jpg


Missing from the N64 game - 3
Ness
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
orcI74q.png


Missing from GC not including the ones from N64 - 9
Dr. Mario
Ganondorf
Falco
Ice Climbers
Young Link
Pichu
Mewtwo
Mr. Game & Watch
Roy
aBzIdV4.png


Missing from the Wii game not including those from N64 and GC - 8
Meta Knight
Pokemon Trainer
Ike
Snake
Wolf
Wario
R.O.B.
Lucas
BziLNyv.png


Total of Missing Characters - 20

Sakurai already said that if he posted all the Final Smashes, it would take over a month worth of posts, so that confirms at least 30 characters, leaving at least 1 more reveal.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADMUKloNVHVtg
aQVrqM1.jpg


But we know that can't be it! Brawl has 35 characters. This game must have more than that!

What I think

I think there could be about 15 more characters. If there is one more row of 9 than in Brawl, with one spot left for Random, that's 15 more for a total of 44.

Ness -
Captain Falcon -
Jigglypuff - 3 Original cast members. I doubt they would leave them out.

Dr. Mario - Maybe as a costume for Mario.
Ganondorf - Most likely in as an unlockable.
Falco - Most likely in as an unlockable.
Ice Climbers - Probably cut after hearing Sakurai's comments.
Young Link - Doubtul.
Pichu - Nope!
Mewtwo - Doubtful.
Mr. Game & Watch - Would be weird if he wasn't in after 2 games, but maybe he will be cut.
Roy - Probably replaced with Chrom.
Meta Knight - Definitely in.
Pokemon Trainer - Probably cut, since Charizard is now a standalone character.
Ike - Probably replaced with Chrom.
Snake - Gone! Snake?! Snake?! Snaaaake!
Wolf - Probably unlockable.
Wario - I think he'll be in. He's too big to leave out.
R.O.B. - Definitely coming back with a Virtual Boy strapped to his head and packing an NES Zapper.
Lucas - Probably cut.

Surely Wolf would make more sense to cut than Ice Climbers? They're the only representative, and unless they've changed up Wolf he is far too similar to Fox and Falco.
 
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