...I really wonder how this got through into the final game.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun
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...I really wonder how this got through into the final game.
How is he an asshole for teasing Ridley as a stage boss, exactly? The only ones thinking it would make him an asshole are reading too much into it.
The game ain't finished. Probably didn't want to show him off because he's (like the game) not finished.
"Oh boy, those Metroid fans are gonna be so excited when I reveal the Pyrosphere stage has the most popular boss in the series in it. I bet they're already speculating on what sort of moves Ridley's gonna have and what the reward is for beating him... No longer will Smash have a reputation for lousy Metroid stages!"
Yoshi still retains his "Dinosaur" stance in Smash 4. Guess it was just imported and edited for SSB4. It's pretty rough in how it transitions to the newer stance. I'm sure they'll polish it up. Just thought I'd point it out.
Could be because this is from Youtube at 30fps though.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I don't know if I'd say THAT's the reason, but yeah. I felt like it was an artistic choice to just show the shadow, any SSB/Nintendo fan knows that was Ridley. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if he IS playable.
Not putting in Ridley wouldn't make him an asshole, not putting in Palutena after all the teasing would make him an asshole.
Beelzebufo
Banned
The person who defeats Ridley is seemingly thrown to their death (actually saved by a lava serpent) while the remaining fighters are immobilized by guilt.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Ugh, honestly? If it's the Other M design then I'd prefer Ridley just stay out of the game entirely. It is just a terrible design.
Probably for the same reason Ness and Lucas can hug walls from the left during their PK Thunder recovery, but instantly hit the walls and go into a helpless fall state regardless of angle if they try to hug one from the right.
Yea, it seems Toon Link is bouncing off and the legs seem to be at that place. It's similar to how Bowser's Down Air into Yellow Devil caused it go left of the Yellow Devil instead of going straight through.
The rest of the battle is then narrated over by Slowbeef and Diabeetus.
ShockingAlberto
Member
There's only, like, two Metroid characters besides Samus he could add. One is Ridley, the other is Dark Samus. Dark Samus isn't in, so the only other option for a Metroid character is Ridley.
Or there could just be no extra Metroid character at all.
Or there could just be no extra Metroid character at all.
I don't see it at all.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
People are reading too much into a tail. It could be an amalgamation of all the Ridleys or it could be a unique "smash" Ridley.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Are there examples of design amalgamations of other characters in Smash? I'd love for this to be true.
Mr. Smiley
Member
If Zero Suit Samus is anything to go by, I wouldn't be surprised if Ridley, if playable, was some sort of weird amalgamation between a previous appearance and Other M.
Guy that hates bugs, pedophile, Samus, "Remember me?", glasses, who cares, Adam.You didn't think these guys were memorable?
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What if Nintendo and Sakurai decided to add this kind of unlockable situation to honor Pokemon Trading system concept.
3DS would have Jigglypuff being unlockable; and Wii U would have Mewtwo being unlockable but you couldn't unlocked Mewtwo on 3DS by itself; visa via with Jigglypuff on Wii U.
So you have to purchase both games, and activate some kind of connectivity to unlock the opposites pokemon on the systems. How people would feel about this situation?
Its happened in like split seconds (or couples)
3DS would have Jigglypuff being unlockable; and Wii U would have Mewtwo being unlockable but you couldn't unlocked Mewtwo on 3DS by itself; visa via with Jigglypuff on Wii U.
So you have to purchase both games, and activate some kind of connectivity to unlock the opposites pokemon on the systems. How people would feel about this situation?
Its happened in like split seconds (or couples)
I'll continue holding out hope for Dark Samus ;_;
I would be mad that I would have to buy a 3DS just to get one character on the wii u.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Link
Also, the new character is obviously going to be Adam. He's the second most important protagonist in the series that ends up saving and one-upping the original protagonist in a later game. He'll be added before Ridley just like Lucas before Porky, Diddy before K. Rool, Falco before Andross, etc.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
But what if we could play as THE BABY?
On a serious note, it's a shame there was never a notorious named Space Pirate, they'd fit in well in Smash. Too bad.
On a serious note, it's a shame there was never a notorious named Space Pirate, they'd fit in well in Smash. Too bad.
Mr. Smiley
Member
Wouldn't that tie into the whole exclusive console character deal that plenty of people got all uppity about?
I don't know, I plan on buying both versions but essentially paying 100 bucks(?) to unlock the full roster on both versions doesn't sit well with me.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
meh, I dont care for game of thrones
Boomstick (Coffee Crazy)
Banned
Well I thought it was fairly obvious that it wasn't literally Demise as is Skyward Sword (hence why he is known as Ganondorf and not demise), but he is basically the core essence of Demise. In other words, a malevolent being with immense power who will always desire the destruction and subjugation of the world. Its clearly not Demise himself, as Ganondorf's final speech in Wind Waker seems to indicate that he is not entirely motivated by pure hatred. However, his abnormal power and strength in wielding the part of the Triforce does seem to indicate that Ganondorf is not entirely human, and his extreme resilience to death (he is sealed away rather than killed in pretty much every situation), as opposed to Link and Zelda, also indicates the same.
You don't know Sakurai. He knows that fans want Ridley, and he also knows that we think Ridley might be a stage hazard on Pyrosphere. I can assure you with 100% certainty that he is trolling us (and I can also assure you that he loves doing it).
I mean, this is the same guy who openly mocked his employer twice.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Technically the characters will be in the files but you can't unlock those characters unless you have to activate the connectivity. The answer is that it wouldn't tied it into exclusive console characters because you have an ability to unlock those characters.
Chance of this situation would happening is pretty slim to none; but I want to see how people felt about it.
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not but if it isn't I have my doubts about the feasibility of this. The only explicit combat equipment that Adam seems to have is an assault rifle of sorts, and unless I'm misremembering things, Sakurai had to avoid using such weapons when designing Snake in Brawl, hence why his arsenal became oriented around his explosive weapons.
I wouldn't expect any of the supporting cast from Other M.
If Hunters ever had it's lasting impact on the canon that could have been a reality.
That was really one of the only things that game did right - give Samus more rivals, one of which I think was even described as an augmented Space Pirate.
EDIT: Yep, his name was Weavel.
I like this guy.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Maybe blue is Tabuu, red is a new "original super-boss"?
I mean, this is the same guy who openly mocked his employer twice.
you seem to be confusing mocked with referencing.
You don't know Sakurai. He knows that fans want Ridley, and he also knows that we think Ridley might be a stage hazard on Pyrosphere. I can assure you with 100% certainty that he is trolling us (and I can also assure you that he loves doing it).
I mean, this is the same guy who openly mocked his employer twice.
Everyone at Nintendo jokes with Iwata. Did you see the Tamadochi Direct? Specifically the US one. Bill gives no fucks.
Beelzebufo
Banned
It was, but I wouldn't be surprised, as that's how he's depicted in Other M, and this game seems to be taking pretty much everything from that game. He has a freeze gun, and probably knows karate. Maybe a snake replacement with ice properties?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
His final smash is deauthorizing the other characters' special moves.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Pokey doesn't have a moveset. Diddy is WAY more important than K. Rool to the series. Andross doesn't even make sense. You might want to come up with some better examples.
Also, would Pokey be the most pure evil character in SSB if he was added? Although I still don't know if I'd describe him as chaotic or evil.
If he is trolling, it's a double-troll and he's making you think that. He's so skilled at trolling, you're taking phantom bait.You don't know Sakurai. He knows that fans want Ridley, and he also knows that we think Ridley might be a stage hazard on Pyrosphere. I can assure you with 100% certainty that he is trolling us (and I can also assure you that he loves doing it).
I mean, this is the same guy who openly mocked his employer twice.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Pokey is less evil than lots of characters, like Ganondorf and even boss characters like Ridley. He's just a by-product of poor parenting. He also has a moveset, he's a boss character in Brawl.
I agree about Diddy being way more important, Adam is important as well. Without Adam, there's no Samus. He taught her to be who she is, and inspires her to always do the right thing no matter what.
Andross makes perfect sense as a boss character, but is too large and irregularly shaped to be playable, despite his role as major antagonist.
Perfect analogies.
Someone pointed out how the shadow of Ridley simply stopped midway, and then kept going. If that was a stage hazard, that was strange.
And why even tease it like that? We know it's supposed to be a Ridley. No reason to do that, unless....
...he wants us to think he is simply a stage hazard, and not playable.
And why even tease it like that? We know it's supposed to be a Ridley. No reason to do that, unless....
...he wants us to think he is simply a stage hazard, and not playable.
Maybe that's what he wants you to think. Get on my yomi level Sakurai.
Adam playable are you kidding me? What would his final smash be denying everyone permission to use their moves? Lets stop for a moment to consider his status of the Metroid series. In Other M he died, and is now a computer AI program in Samus' ship.His only possible moveset would be stealing more attacks from Samus, it's too bad that Other M had no original items whatsoever. I would rather have two versions of Samus as the representatives for Metroid rather than Adam. Our only real hope is that if we ever get a new game they give us an enemy that would be a perfect Samus rival.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Did I misunderstand your post? I thought you were implying that Sakurai would rather have less important protagonists playable than more important antagonists, hence the Adam>Ridley choice. This is why I thought mentioning Pokey and Andross was weird, as neither would fit in well. Pokey's works as a boss but never as his own character.
And I kind of forgot the brainwashing element in Earthbound, Pokey's not as bad as I initially thought, but his actual actions were monstrous.