Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

Why the hell did Samus go from this and her MP1 appearance to this overly anime look that she has now.

As much as i hate the "because Nintendo" line that's really the only explanation i'm seeing for the change.

She went from looking like a believable person

To this fake plastic looking thing

I really hate this transition

I prefer anime Samus. I prefer stylised stuff in everything.

/shrug
 
Sakamoto probably didn't like the realistic (and vastly superior) MP1 Samus.

I doubt Retro would change it of their own accord.

:(

I really hope that if Retro does or is working on Metroid they return to their earlier idea for how she should look. After M:OM Sakamoto's views on how she should behave or look better take a back seat for a while.
 
Why the hell did Samus go from this and her MP1 appearance to this overly anime look that she has now.

That Metroid Prime 1 image wan't the first time that Samus took off her helmet. She does that in every game she has been in. Of all of those cases, Prime 1 is the outlier. What you call her "later" appearance was also how she looked in Metroid Fusion, which was released at the same time as Metroid Prime.

I guess for Prime 2 and 3 they just decided to settle on using a consistent look for the characters. As a whole, I suppose they just decided against using a realistic art-style, and opted instead to keep a consistent art-style among all of the Metroid games.
 
That Metroid Prime 1 image wan't the first time that Samus took off her helmet. She does that in every game she has been in. Of all of those cases, Prime 1 is the outlier. What you call her "later" appearance was also how she looked in Metroid Fusion, which was released at the same time as Metroid Prime.

I guess for Prime 2 and 3 they just decided to settle on using a consistent look for the characters. As a whole, I suppose they just decided against using a realistic art-style, and opted instead to keep a consistent art-style among all of the Metroid games.

Oh i'm aware of that, i've played through the entire Metroid series (2D + 3D). I just find the MP1 look to be a much better fit at conveying the entire idea of Samus as a person/character than her anime look.
 
Why the hell did Samus go from this and her MP1 appearance to this overly anime look that she has now.

As much as i hate the "because Nintendo" line that's really the only explanation i'm seeing for the change.

She went from looking like a believable person
then-zero-mission-came-along-and-fucked-everything-up.jpg


To this fake plastic looking thing
SamusAran.png


I really hate this transition
Samus_3D_endings.jpg
I was fine with animu Samus because the design matched the art direction of Fusion, Zero Mission, Other M, etc. Shoving it into the Prime series was a terrible choice though.

There was also a great depiction in Smash Bros. Melee. It sorta resembles a compromise between anime and Retro's look.

nohelmet12kekh.jpg


Now that I think about it, this might be my favorite "non-bikini" Samus.
Metroid II and Super Metroid Samus FTW

Edit: For the record I think SSB4 ZSSamus is fine.
 
Why the hell did Samus go from this and her MP1 appearance to this overly anime look that she has now.

As much as i hate the "because Nintendo" line that's really the only explanation i'm seeing for the change.

She went from looking like a believable person
then-zero-mission-came-along-and-fucked-everything-up.jpg


To this fake plastic looking thing
SamusAran.png


I really hate this transition
Samus_3D_endings.jpg





Transition ?

 
Why the hell did Samus go from this and her MP1 appearance to this overly anime look that she has now.

As much as i hate the "because Nintendo" line that's really the only explanation i'm seeing for the change.

She went from looking like a believable person
then-zero-mission-came-along-and-fucked-everything-up.jpg


To this fake plastic looking thing
SamusAran.png


I really hate this transition
Samus_3D_endings.jpg

samus has had a anime-ish artstyle look to her since they were able to put illustrations of her
 
Oh i'm aware of that, i've played through the entire Metroid series. I just find the MP1 look to be a much better fit at conveying the entire idea of Samus as a person/character than her anime look.

Then why did you call it a transition or change? If you know that the anime-styled look was the older and more constant style, why talk about it as if it was something new? You should pay more attention to your wording.

In any case, that comes down to personal preference. I have no issue with stylized or cartoon-style characters. I don't think a change in art style makes Samus any less or more believable as a character. That is a product of writing, not artstyle.
 
Hi I want this game. please tell Sakurai to give me this game now. thank you.
 
Then why did you call it a transition or change? If you know that the anime-styled look was the older and more constant style, why talk about it as if it was something new? You should pay more attention to your wording.

In any case, that comes down to personal preference. I have no issue with stylized or cartoon-style characters. I don't think a change in art style makes Samus any less or more believable as a character. That is a product of writing, not artstyle.

For 3D Metroid the MP1 look was the first view of Samus in 3D after a generational absence. The change back towards anime styling is what i disliked, not because i dislike anime but because i believed that the MP1 look was a better match for the person/character of Samus than the anime styled plastic and possibly generic look. Especially in the Prime trilogy, her anime appearance looked out of place in the subsequent games.
 
For 3D Metroid the MP1 look was the first view of Samus in 3D after a generational absence. The change back towards anime styling is what i disliked, not because i dislike anime but because i believed that the MP1 look was a better match for the person/character of Samus than the anime styled plastic and possibly generic look.

idk why people are so stuck on samus' MP1 face, that was a pretty generic face at the time, imo anyways, and it doesnt age well, doesnt look anywhere near as good as it use to, on the contrary the design of her face shown in the picture just below, the other M one, looks far better and gives way more personality to me, it is also aging alot better then MP1's.
 
Why the hell did Samus go from this and her MP1 appearance to this overly anime look that she has now.

As much as i hate the "because Nintendo" line that's really the only explanation i'm seeing for the change.

She went from looking like a believable person

... and that's where you lost me.

She fights a space pterodactyl, membranous nuclei with teeth and a disembodied brain functioning as an organic supercomputer with an emergency self-defense mechanism that involves turning it into what is essentially a cyborg T-Rex with a single eye that shoots laser beams.

Believability is for naught. And the MP1 face isn't even that believable to begin with.
 

Sakurai said that some of these Final Destination versions of stages will be on cliffs while others will be floating.

Watch one or the other form get banned from "official" Smash 4 tournaments for one arbitrary reason or another, leading to more than half of the Final Destination stages, and more than ¾ of the overall game stages, getting banned.




As for the 3DS Smash Tourney, normal stages, please.
 
Quick idea for the future Smash 3DS tourney:

Would prefer normal stages or FD?

All stages, non-FD versions. FD is so. Damn. Boring, especially all the time.

Turning every stage into FD or something close enough to it is one of the biggest reasons Project M is so dull compared to regular Brawl. Let's not turn Smash 4 into a snoozefest months before it's even out, please. :(
 
I think that Battlefield is more balanced than Final Destination, I am glad that Sakurai is doing this, but it would be cool if he acknowledged that platforms aren't bad. Probably not going to, oh well. Great pic.
 
... and that's where you lost me.

She fights a space pterodactyl, membranous nuclei with teeth and a disembodied brain functioning as an organic supercomputer with an emergency self-defense mechanism that involves turning it into what is essentially a cyborg T-Rex with a single eye that shoots laser beams.

Believability is for naught. And the MP1 face isn't even that believable to begin with.

No offense, but that's a super trashy argument. You know - or at least I hope to god you know - that the user is talking about believable designs. The user is not asking for Samus to be a police officer in 2007 era Albany.
 
Quick idea for the future Smash 3DS tourney:

Would prefer normal stages or FD?

Are we doing the tourney the day of release? Or are we going to wait a couple weeks where we could make a list of fair stages?

I don't want to do all FD, but I'd also be really disappointed if my tournament matches ending up on something like Mushroomy Kingdom.
 
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