Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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I posted this earlier but it got (understandably) ignored because of new thread hype, so I'll repost it here:
Seriously, the items in this game are awesome.
Seriously, the items in this game are awesome.
number of items has me excited. Hope their distribution is done right so the most powerful ones aren't super common like Smash Balls in Brawl.
Most common argument against him being playable in Brawl. And every time people thought the argument was settled, someone would bring it up.
It started long before that. Here's what Sakurai said.
Forgot about that rumored number. If we take into account the solid 48 number: we've got the 29 confirmed characters + 15 unannounced Brawl fighters + 6 possible remaining leaked newcomers (Mii, Pac-Man, Shulk, Palutena, Chorus Men, Chrom) totaling 50 characters.
I'm not sure whether Pokemon Trainer's Squirtle and Ivysaur would count as one or two cuts, but either way, this could lead to maybe 2 unannounced characters... maybe Dixie Kong/Mewtwo/
Ridley
Fire Bar is the BEST item so far.
Because apparently the Japanese competitive scene really likes Final Destination.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
How old are you?
theprodigy
Member
FTFY
not really, but we might as well pick the two best Bravely Default characters
Agreed, haven't multiple people said they would start a campaign only to not follow through by now?
PadWarrior
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Old topic but it does involve Ridley
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/928518-super-smash-bros-brawl/55775695
ere are some things that Sakurai has said that I think the rest of this board might find interesting. This comes from the Sakurai interview in the May 2008 issue of Nintendo Power:
Nintendo Power: How did you go about choosing which characters to include in the final roster? Were there any characters that you really wish you could have included, but weren't able to for whatever reason?[/I]
Sakurai:Of course there were some characters that we couldn't include, but we've decided that we're not going to talk about them. [Laughs]
As far as choosing which characters, we had to really look at the series that would be represented in the game and create a balance that would make fans of all the series happy. We didn't want to have all Mario characters, all Pokemon characters... We looked at each series and tried to pick the characters that would have the widest appeal to the largest fan base. And of course, we looked at games like Animal Crossing and Nintendogs, where there aren't really any characters that lend themselves to fighting, and we decided not to include characters from those series as fighting characters.
One thing that was kind of a challenge is that we haven't had a lot of new characters from Nintendo since Captain Olimar [that could work well in a fighting game]; a lot of games have been Mario titles or new iterations of existing series.
Nintendo Power: There was a rumor at one point about Ridley being playable. Was that ever a consideration?
Sakurai: I think that would probably be pretty impossible. [Laughs] If we had put our best efforts into it, we may have been able to do it. But he might have been a little slow. Would that be all right? [Laughs]
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/928518-super-smash-bros-brawl/55775695
ere are some things that Sakurai has said that I think the rest of this board might find interesting. This comes from the Sakurai interview in the May 2008 issue of Nintendo Power:
Nintendo Power: How did you go about choosing which characters to include in the final roster? Were there any characters that you really wish you could have included, but weren't able to for whatever reason?[/I]
Sakurai:Of course there were some characters that we couldn't include, but we've decided that we're not going to talk about them. [Laughs]
As far as choosing which characters, we had to really look at the series that would be represented in the game and create a balance that would make fans of all the series happy. We didn't want to have all Mario characters, all Pokemon characters... We looked at each series and tried to pick the characters that would have the widest appeal to the largest fan base. And of course, we looked at games like Animal Crossing and Nintendogs, where there aren't really any characters that lend themselves to fighting, and we decided not to include characters from those series as fighting characters.
One thing that was kind of a challenge is that we haven't had a lot of new characters from Nintendo since Captain Olimar [that could work well in a fighting game]; a lot of games have been Mario titles or new iterations of existing series.
Nintendo Power: There was a rumor at one point about Ridley being playable. Was that ever a consideration?
Sakurai: I think that would probably be pretty impossible. [Laughs] If we had put our best efforts into it, we may have been able to do it. But he might have been a little slow. Would that be all right? [Laughs]
They need to stop pretending Smash is one of their anime games like Street Fighter.
Karsticles
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And I never said the characters would be exclusive.
This is actually a good point. The item balance in Brawl was horrible. Smash Balls and Dragoon popped up WAY too often. Hopefully they fix that this time around. Apparently item balance is a huge focus in MK8, so hopefully Sakurai takes note of that and does the same thing here.
Another thing I hated was the distribution for PokéBalls. Lord knows how many times I've seen fucking Gardevoir, yet I've only seen Manaphy once in the six years I've owned Brawl. But the whole PokéBall/Master Ball thing should help in that regard a lot.
It's common sense. Ridley will never be playable because he's too big.
I think we need to let go of the idea that For Glory is intended to be for what we consider to be competitive players anyway.
It seems like it's meant for kids who take the game way too seriously online moreso than someone who is actually familiar with the intricacies of the game and plays on a variety of fair stages in a tournament setting.
Chezzymann
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So the whole reason of the final destination-itized stages in for glory mode is because winy brats want all the stages to be the same in order for them to not blame the stage for them losing and instead of their skills?
Damn, I was hoping for an Animal Crossing character. Guess I'll have to wait for Smash 6.
I wonder what happened to the Japanese Melee scene. Are they keeping it alive?
This is actually a good point. The item balance in Brawl was horrible. Smash Balls and Dragoon popped up WAY too often. Hopefully they fix that this time around. Apparently item balance is a huge focus in MK8, so hopefully Sakurai takes note of that and does the same thing here.
But Smash Balls are one of the integral parts of the game..
BassForever
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The Ridley is TOO BIG meme started WAAAAAAAAAAAAY before Ridley was confirmed a boss in Subspace which IIRC wasn't until after the game launched
Olimar will never be playable because he's too small.
Like seriously, give the size argument a rest, there are better ones.
Ugh. It was really bad. Some items seemed to barely appear at all; Super Spicy Curry for example.This is actually a good point. The item balance in Brawl was horrible. Smash Balls and Dragoon popped up WAY too often. Hopefully they fix that this time around. Apparently item balance is a huge focus in MK8, so hopefully Sakurai takes note of that and does the same thing here.
There needs to be a way to set Pokemon rates. There were way too fucking many Munchlaxes, Gardevoirs, Bonslys, and Gulpins.
#BattlefieldForGlory on miiverse and twitter. I'm doing it as often as I can (no more than once per day). Send it to nintendo/sakurai.
Any hashtag works, just try to let it be known you want more than final destination. I'm pretty sure i'm the only one doing it, but the more people, the better.Don't get me wrong, I love Smash Balls, but I feel like they should be just a bit more rare. They appeared a bit too much for my liking. I mean it's a super powerful attack, don't you think it should feel special?This is actually a good point. The item balance in Brawl was horrible. Smash Balls and Dragoon popped up WAY too often. Hopefully they fix that this time around. Apparently item balance is a huge focus in MK8, so hopefully Sakurai takes note of that and does the same thing here.
But Smash Balls are one of the integral parts of the game..
ArchedThunder
Banned
That would be dumb, why would they do that.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Agreed with pokeball pokemon rates and dragoon.
That's another thing. Make the Final Smashes better. Donkey Kong's just looks pathetic.
ArchedThunder
Banned
It doesn't just look pathetic, it is pathetic.
I'll bring it up again, and I know a lot of people are opposed to it, but maybe once you see all of the pokemon/assist trophies once, you enable an item switch type thing for pokemon.
The inclusion of the 'master ball' tells me this likely won't happen (if you want rare pokemon, disable pokeballs and enable master balls), but it would be nice.
).Olimar makes sense because he's the only character from his franchise. Making Ridley only a little bit taller than Samus is going to look weird.
ShockingAlberto
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I get the feeling DK's has changed. I base this on nothing except everyone everywhere forgetting Donkey Konga has ever existed and the possibility people on the 3DS are not playing with sound.
Smashers need to be able to fight. What next, a character from Wii Fit?
It's not even that we want legendaries, it's that the normal Pokemon suck compared to Melee's. Too many gimmicks, not enough Pokemon that straight up attack.
SenorArdilla
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Granted, that article is now 6 years old. And Bowser from SSB4 looks way faster than his Melee and Brawl incarnations.
*dead*
TP better than OoT? SS better than WW? You gotta be kidding me, we can't be friends.
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ノ彡┻━┻Yes, it would.
Correct, that would be like making one of the pikmin bosses playable, but then scaling him down to olimar's size, when in his game they're much much bigger.
I liked that Donkey Kong's needed you to interact with it, if you know how you can do it and it's pretty fun. The one I never understood was Jigglypuff's.
Donkey Kong's FS should summon Funky Kong to fly in his plane over the stage and drop the banana hoard upon unsuspecting opponents
Pikachu is a bit over 1 foot tall, does he look that small next to the 5'7'' Charizard or the 6'7'' Mewtwo? Again, the size argument makes no sense.
ErrorMacro
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This is actually a good point. The item balance in Brawl was horrible. Smash Balls and Dragoon popped up WAY too often. Hopefully they fix that this time around. Apparently item balance is a huge focus in MK8, so hopefully Sakurai takes note of that and does the same thing here.
Another thing I hated was the distribution for PokéBalls. Lord knows how many times I've seen fucking Gardevoir, yet I've only seen Manaphy once in the six years I've owned Brawl. But the whole PokéBall/Master Ball thing should help in that regard a lot.
I'm hoping for individual frequency switchs for each item. Brawl had both the global switch, and individual switchs for on/off.
But really, so many awesome itens! And a lot more than Brawl. Until now, there's around 74 itens itens revealed while Brawl had around 50!
DisconnectD
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#BattlefieldForGlory on miiverse and twitter. I'm doing it as often as I can (no more than once per day). Send it to nintendo/sakurai.
Someone with clout in the competitive community should start a #BattlefieldForGlory social media campaign and petition so that Sakurai and Nintendo get wind of it.
I feel like the final smash should be huge and happen not every game. The fact that it was possible to have a smash ball appear, you kill everyone, fight for another minute and then another one appears is what killed it for me in brawl. Hopefully they get those fixed, i think smashes should not be happening that often.
took me a second to realize what i was looking at
so good
chorus kids is going to be an awesome character
Y'know, this picture kind of bothers me. In the video it looked like the shadows were facing away from the screen, but the main light source in the room (the lava) is projecting light towards the screen.
Jigglypuff's makes sense (She's the balloon Pokemon) but it always looked lame.
Donkey Kong's just looks lame (I've never seen someone play the bongos in such a boring way) and it's not that great even if you synch up perfectly.
Ridley is too big to be a boss, literally he's just a background character.
This argument is awful, if only because most of those bosses are unimportant whereas Ridley is an actual important character in his series.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Pikachu is a bit over 1 foot tall, does he look that small next to the 5'7'' Charizard or the 6'7'' Mewtwo? Again, the size argument makes no sense.
Bowser is also way bigger than Mario a lot of times.
Red Arremer
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Sakurai literally said in one of the Daily Pics that size and scale in Smash Bros. don't matter. So fuck off.
BassForever
Member
Ridley's tail has always been the biggest thing that I felt would screw him from being playable