ShockingAlberto
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I was thinking that I hope there is a traveling Kid Icarus stage that zooms and swoops through things like the parting ocean and up in to space.
...I should really play KI again.
...I should really play KI again.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
As guy that love to play with random button, I haven't seen any characters that I would dislike to play as for now. Every characters in Smash; so far look fantastic and fun to play with. Also their moveset changes made me even more exciting for veterans.
I'm so eager to trying out few of my old mains; Pit, Olimar and Bowser. Newcomers look fantastic as well, since Wii Fit Trainer look hilarious to play as.
I'm so eager to trying out few of my old mains; Pit, Olimar and Bowser. Newcomers look fantastic as well, since Wii Fit Trainer look hilarious to play as.
ShockingAlberto
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Two of those three don't apply to one of the rumored characters!
Same mate, same.
Well WFT was neither combat capable nor has a name.
Should chorus kids be true - also neither a name nor combat capable.
Your sources suck
They'll stand on each other's shoulders like an adorable totem pole. Each punch activates a different height that's stronger if done in an even rhythm. All I got lol.
I'm thinking about another playthrough myself. Just a wonderfully positive feel-good game. So much heart and spectacle.
And yes, yes, SO YES to all of those ideas. Who knows, maybe we'll get a second Kid Icarus stage in the WiiU version to complement the (huge and stationary) Palutena's Temple. Something like you suggested -- basically Lylat Cruise through various KIU scenarios -- and with guest appearances by the various gods and goddesses, commentating on the match.
Hmm, now I'm wondering how Hades will be incorporated...
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
and announced characters too such as Wii Fit Trainer, Villagers and Rosalina.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I usually didn't hit random but I'd just move my cursor to other characters on a whim between every match.
The only ones I'd actually avoid were ROB, Ganondorf, and Ice Climbers because I didn't really find them fun to play.
The only ones I'd actually avoid were ROB, Ganondorf, and Ice Climbers because I didn't really find them fun to play.
Baron von Loathsome
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Oh snap!
To me, the concept of not trying out all the characters is just strange in any fighting game and it applies even more to Smash.
Of course you don't have to play as them if you don't like it after you have tried them out, but not even trying characters is just strange.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Of course you don't have to play as them if you don't like it after you have tried them out, but not even trying characters is just strange.
Yea, this is my stance as well.
We'll just have to wait and see.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I usually do that when my friends and I want to do "all characters must be selected" sessions which is pretty blast for most of us.
I can imagine that it would be same case for me and my friends when we picked up Smash 4 for first time so we can play all available characters in one sitting.
I played everyone in Brawl, although my favorites were definitely Mr. G&W and Bowser, followed by Pokémon Trainer. The characters I played least were probably Lucario, Ness and Lucas. Something about their shape/silhouette makes them feel "less dynamic" as they move around. Although I really like what I'm seeing with Lucario in SSB4. Brightening his color scheme, making him more expressive and powering up his aura effect make him stand out a lot more this time around. I'm also interested to try the improved Sonic since I really enjoyed spinning around as him in Brawl and now he looks like he can more reliably KO opponents.
Yeah, My goal is always to play every single character first. Then I settle down on a handful, and then, after a while, it's all random, all the time.
Well if I'm to believe the leak I think they mistook Marshal for the Chorus Kids as he makes more sense as a rep.
His recovery would be his Night Walk balloons. Unlike Villager these would slowly pop one at a time like the intro to Night Walk. I believe like Mr.G&W his moves would represent different games i.e. his basic special could summon one of Karate Man's items (bucket, ball, bulb) from the foreground. You can time a punch to shoot it across the stage. I think many of his attacks could be like that; a primary input and then a timed secondary input to represent the rhythm aspect. His final smash however can be like DK's and change the music so the rhythm will be music based.
I see his model being 3D just like Mr Game & Watches as making sprites for all his moves will be too much effort. Perhaps they could use cel shading to give him a flatter look.
chaobreaker
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Everyone, please, you're misunderstanding my post.
When I say combat capable I mean they can be easily turned into a fighting game character. WFT went from being a yoga instructor to solar manipulating yoga fighter, ergo she is combat capable.
A title can also be seen as having a name.
When I say combat capable I mean they can be easily turned into a fighting game character. WFT went from being a yoga instructor to solar manipulating yoga fighter, ergo she is combat capable.
A title can also be seen as having a name.
NeonZ
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I think it's a mistake to add up the two leaks and consider the second one just as valid as the first one. The first one certainly seems real at this point, but the second one hasn't proven itself yet. The only thing really corroborating it is the site's claim that it came from the same source, but it's not like there's a way to verify that, or we even know if the site's source was a primary or secondary source.
The Pokemon X/Y issue isn't just the lack of a specific name. If the leaker visually saw the characters, but didn't have their names, and didn't know about that Pokemon, how did he even know that it was a Pokemon from X/Y? He seemed to know about the identity of all other characters, even from less famous franchises like Fire Emblem and Rhythm Heaven, and yet couldn't name a starter Pokemon that he apparently at least partially recognized?
Of the characters they've shown so far, I think I'd try Greninja first. I adore the character, so much so I raised two of them in X/Y (including a specimen with perfect IVs bred by DaBoss -- thanks again for that, pal!). I was so ecstatic after Greninja's reveal that, in a moment unusual for me, I couldn't describe my hype here so I didn't post much. Instead I paced around the room like I did after the Season 4 finale of Breaking Bad. 
The thing with Greninja is he's one of those "dream characters" I'd wish for if I allowed myself to wish for anyone, regardless of how unlikely they seemed... but when trying to temper my expectations, I would've never guessed him since The Pokémon Company never pushed him more than the other starters. So for him to be singled out for Smashhood... It just never occurred to me as a possibility. But I'm stoked it's happening.
The characters I'd probably try next are Little Mac and Rosalina & Luma. I'm fascinated by both of their playstyles. R&L's puppeteer shenanigans are refreshing. And Little Mac... I'm eager to see if he'll wind up being broken once someone masters his fancy footwork enough to stay on the ground the majority of the time. With the right prediction, zoning and dodging, Little Mac could dominate the battle.
The thing with Greninja is he's one of those "dream characters" I'd wish for if I allowed myself to wish for anyone, regardless of how unlikely they seemed... but when trying to temper my expectations, I would've never guessed him since The Pokémon Company never pushed him more than the other starters. So for him to be singled out for Smashhood... It just never occurred to me as a possibility. But I'm stoked it's happening.
The characters I'd probably try next are Little Mac and Rosalina & Luma. I'm fascinated by both of their playstyles. R&L's puppeteer shenanigans are refreshing. And Little Mac... I'm eager to see if he'll wind up being broken once someone masters his fancy footwork enough to stay on the ground the majority of the time. With the right prediction, zoning and dodging, Little Mac could dominate the battle.
Benzychenz
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Of the characters they've shown so far, I think I'd try Greninja first. I adore the character, so much so I raised two of them in X/Y (including a specimen with perfect IVs bred by DaBoss -- thanks again for that, pal!). I was so ecstatic after Greninja's reveal that, in a moment unusual for me, I couldn't describe my hype here so I didn't post much. Instead I paced around the room like I did after the Season 4 finale of Breaking Bad.
This sums up my thoughts well, right down to raising a perfect one in XY. He's been my lead in battles since I put him in my party
Never thought he'd get in, but I'm stoked to play as him!
Aaronrules380
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Perhaps the leaker got the information ages ago when X and Y were still in development. He knew it was a pokemon he hadn't seen, and thus put two and two together. He thus recorded it as XY pokemon. Now, months later he can't remember exactly which XY pokemon it was. Or perhaps he just isn't that interested in pokemon, but heard someone mention it was an x y one. Or perhaps the leaker got the info at a time when it had been decided there'd be an x y pokemon, but not WHICH x y pokemon it would be
Baron von Loathsome
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Maybe he recognized Greninja or had been told it was from Pokemon X & Y, but didn't remember the name. It took me a while to internalize Greninja's name after it was revealed, at any rate.
I'll concede that's a reasonable stance. I'm trusting the second leak is from the same source. If it is, I'm very much inclined to believe it's real and that we'll see Chorus Men, Chrom, Shulk, Palutena, Mii and Pac-Man in the final game.
This one's easy. The guy leaking these details might not be seeing them firsthand. He might be hearing them from someone else himself. And perhaps that insider has seen enough of X/Y to know it's a new character, but didn't know enough to say more than that. Greninja was among the first Pokémon leaked in the run-up to X/Y, so I can see how people would have the association.
Regulus Tera
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Or maybe the leak is fake. #OccamsRazor
Beelzebufo
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Chorus men only fit one of the three lol
OccamsRazor is in favor of the leak at this point.
Aaronrules380
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Occams razor really doesn't apply to this situation, since there's stuff involved that seems highly unlikely to be pure coincidence
You're already making excuses. That was a very bad leak. Good leaks need no excuses.
Occam's Razor is actually in favour of the leak being true: Greninja is a pokémon from X/Y, it's actually the people who are trying to disprove the leak with complex theories about it being fake, while Occam's Razor would imply it's easier to just accept it's true.
Aaronrules380
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This assumes he was a primary source and isn't actually getting the info from someone else. Or as I've said, maybe he got the info before it was finalized which XY Pokemon would get in (All three starters could've worked in Smash, and the decision would probably have been made before X and Y were out and popularity could be gauged.)
A Greninja with the Protean ability is just about the most fun Pokémon you can use in X/Y. For those who don't know, Protean changes your Pokémon's type to the move you're using. So say your opponent is going to launch a hard-hitting Fighting-type move at you, to exploit Greninja's low physical Defense stat. You beat him to the punch with Shadow Sneak, a Ghost-type move that has priority and goes first, and in the process you become a pure Ghost-type thanks to Protean, and thus the Fighting-type move misses you due to the Ghost-type's immunity to Fighting.This sums up my thoughts well, right down to raising a perfect one in XY. He's been my lead in battles since I put him in my party
Never thought he'd get in, but I'm stoked to play as him!
That's just one example, and not even one pertinent to my Greninja since I don't use Shadow Sneak. You can use Ice Beam to turn into a pure Ice-type to resist an incoming Grass-type move... Or you could use Grass Knot to become a Grass-type and inflict more damage to a Water-type opponent who thinks they can resist you. You could even use Spikes to become a Ground-type and become immune to Electric-type attacks someone might try thinking you're a Water-type. The list goes on and on.
So far, it doesn't appear the Protean ability will factor into Greninja's Smash move-set. But the point is, he's just as fun to use in X/Y as he looks to be in Smash. Just a great character all-around, before you get to how cool he looks from a conceptual design standpoint.
Regulus Tera
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You guys are assuming that predicting a pokemon from the latest gen is somehow a far fetched idea.
InvincibleAgent
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The astronomer in me is trying to make sense of the background. Either it's a planet that has about the same volume as its parent star (nigh impossible), or it's a twin star system, and one of them is so hot it burns blue (would require either different elemental make-up or vastly different size), or else the two bodies are at very different distances and only appear to have the same magnitude because their distances are in direct proportion to their sizes (Unlikely, considering it appears they have some matter exchanging in the middle).
TL;DR they're two stars from different systems colliding... Like what the Smash Bros series is all about.
Beelzebufo
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That's not how Occam's razor works though. He also got everything else.
dryuriev7777
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Protean was also crazy popular it seemed. I remember getting a bunch of Protean Froakies from Wonder Trade and just giving them away to people on Gaf.
Greninja looks alright. I think I'm more excited for Rosalina & Luma and the Wii Fit Trainer. The only one that I can't really get much hype for is Little Mac.
Greninja looks alright. I think I'm more excited for Rosalina & Luma and the Wii Fit Trainer. The only one that I can't really get much hype for is Little Mac.
ShockingAlberto
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If Sakurai had picked any other character to reveal from either list aside from Greninja, there'd be no questioning it's a legitimate leak.
Bad Luck Leaker.
Bad Luck Leaker.
Aaronrules380
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Honestly, I think the leaker knows more than they've said and has had their info for a while. For the e3 one they shared what they did because they knew at the very least that those were the likely e3 picks. For the second leak, I assume they put it out because of the smash direct being pretty much guaranteed to have at least one new character, but not really knowing which character it might be
Baron von Loathsome
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I've added more icons to my 48 character roster to make it easier to visualize:
That's kind of a bare minimum roster for me. I'm hoping for a few more characters.
May as well post my roster, finally figured out how to export it.
Replace Rhythm Heaven Girl with Chorus Men or Marshall or whatever they'd call it.
And I see one more character appearing in the game at most, probably either Dixie Kong, Mewtwo, or Takamaru. I'm not confident enough to put any of them on my roster, though.
User 73706
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Anyone else notice we got something old, something new, something borrowed, and something blue in the Smash direct? Sheik, new Zero Suit Samus moveset, Charizard (borrowed from Pokemon Trainer's roster) and Greninja?
I wouldn't mind Chorus Kids just because they look like they're a good mix of cute and original design. If they had more mainstream appeal I could easily see them fitting in with the likes of Kirby, and I don't doubt that they'd play to Sakurai's strong suits moveset-wise.
I'm hoping to use Wii Fit Trainer because she's got Game and Watch levels of screwy animations and disjointed hitboxes. Little Mac looks fun, and I can see him being a high-level character, but I'm worried he's going to be Ganondorf 2.0 tier-wise because of his poor aerial game. It all depends, though. I also really want to be able to use Greninja, but I'd feel cheap if he ends up being the new Meta Knight.
I wouldn't mind Chorus Kids just because they look like they're a good mix of cute and original design. If they had more mainstream appeal I could easily see them fitting in with the likes of Kirby, and I don't doubt that they'd play to Sakurai's strong suits moveset-wise.
I'm hoping to use Wii Fit Trainer because she's got Game and Watch levels of screwy animations and disjointed hitboxes. Little Mac looks fun, and I can see him being a high-level character, but I'm worried he's going to be Ganondorf 2.0 tier-wise because of his poor aerial game. It all depends, though. I also really want to be able to use Greninja, but I'd feel cheap if he ends up being the new Meta Knight.
I've added more icons to my 48 character roster to make it easier to visualize:
That's kind of a bare minimum roster for me. I'm hoping for a few more characters.
Even though this isn't the actual final roster, this image makes me happy.
Baron von Loathsome
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Very high.
Just like Pokémon, I love how different people look forward to different characters in Smash. You don't feel hype for Little Mac, but I'm the total opposite -- I keep rewatching his portion of the latest Direct, because it's just so hype seeing him bob up and down to the Punch-Out remix. SO HYPE.
Guaranteed to return.
Aaronrules380
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Pretty much as high as possible without being confirmed
Let's just say I won't be happy if he doesn't make a return.
I don't think he'll ever be cut.
Loving that roster, Ryce. Wish it had Snake but I can see him going either way at this point.
I suspect Greninja will be incredibly quick and mobile but rather weak when it comes to knockout power. Like Sonic, they'll make you work to win with Greninja. But that's fine, because like Sonic he looks to be a really fun character.
Aaronrules380
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I'm pretty excited for Little Mac as well and I've never even played his games. He just looks like a really cool character
Sakurai posted this as production got underway on SSB4. You can see Mr. Game & Watch on the right.
I trust Mr. G&W will be back. He represents vintage Nintendo history, which is part of the idea behind Smash. More importantly, he's an incredibly unique character -- a clever reinvention by Sakurai.
He's also my favorite character. His parachute-into-key-drop combo would endlessly infuriate my friends.