Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Fedoras: We Don't Want You Anymore, M'Lady

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That guy doesn't seem very nice.

But if he's actually describing a specific situation (which he's not) then I wouldn't want her either.
 
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Do all CEOs where badges that say "CEO"?
 
I want it to be heavily sustained irony, but deep down I know it isn't.
 
There is a difference between nice guys and pushovers. A lot of those types in that rant don't realize they fall in push over territory

Thank you. My brother in law is one of the nicest people I know, but he's got balls and confidence. Farthest thing from a simping bastard, that said he's very romantic to my sister and she loves it. There's a distinction there that some just don't see because they're the bad kind of nice guy.
 
Leo Steven, the author, describes himself as a "Long suffering nice guy tired of the game". This is also his only contribution to Thought Catalog. Really, referring to himself as a "nice guy"? Anyone with even an iota of internet cultural literacy knows the connotations that come coupled with that term, and no one's going to use it to describe himself if he wants to be taken seriously. Given that and the caricature-ish nature of the posting I call shenanigans. What we have here is an anti-Nice Guy shit-stirrer.
 
Im gonna take the authors side on this one. He tried to date her, was decent to her, she chose some jackass that walked out on her after she popped out his spawn. And then goes after the guy she ignored in the first place that has his shit together?

Yah, fuck her. She made her choice, and chose poorly. Enjoy sleeping in the grave you dug yourself.

Because the tone of the article makes it sound like an entirely accurate and non-exaggerated account of a specific woman? It sounds like a string of bad dates boiled down into the worst possible combo with some bitter exaggeration thrown in.
 
Let's this be a warning to you all, Men of GAF: Ill-fitting fedoras can lead to to over-tight fedoras that limit the blood flow to the brain and cause them to post tripe like the letter in the OP.
 
I'm telling you these anti-nice guy false flags are getting more and more elaborate. it's hard out here for a nice guy. really respected thought catalog before this, too.
 
I think part of this epidemic of bitterness/resentment just has to do with the changing times. "Hot" women just have so many men chasing them in so many places 24/7 that "wooing" someone doesn't really exist anymore. Online dating, facebook, twitter, instagram, tumblr (yes, a friend of a friend met their SO on fucking tumblr) , all give millions men easy access to whatever woman they feel like pursuing. I think the bitterness comes from jealousy at how it doesn't work that way for men.

And how, maybe, it seems like it's become harder, much harder, for men to keep the attention of the gal he's interested in. Is that fair to say?

I think it would behoove all men to treat every first date like its the last time you're ever going to the person. Just always assume she's got dozens of other guys in line.
 
I thought there was going to be some punch line at the end or something, I can't believe people are reposting this around in an earnest fashion. I'm 32 now though, I could see myself being bitter in my 20s if I felt I was getting passed over for being "nice".

All people make mistakes, some women learn what they really want when they get a bit older. Please, don't judge me on things I did when I was 21.
 
i know this thread is all fedoras and other stupid gaf shit

I'm sorry, but, I had to stop here:



What kind of salt is this!? WHY are you even on a date with this girl you clearly can't stand in the first fuckin place!?

Is it because you thought she'd be easy pickings for your "nice guy" bullshit? Dude, you got played and you have nobody to blame but yourself.

Like, this is bitter simping on a whole other level...
but, clearly you need to speed at least some modicum of time with someone to realize you dont like them.

I went out with this girl once, she was a smoking hot Brazilian, she texted the whole time even through the movie. Never talked to her again. Though i'm not all bitter about it.
 
$100 steak for a first date? First problem. Allowing a girl to text during the date without addressing it? Second problem. Thinking there's a check-list of things to do in order to be given attention? Third problem.

Make a first date cheap coffee, that way you lose nothing if the date sucks. If the girl is being disrespectful, address it immediately. Then, if the solution isn't to your satisfaction just leave. Getting someone to like you shouldn't be about fulfilling every material need they have, it should be about getting them to understand, like, and respect you.

Of course this selfish girl went back to him, he made it known he's the hundred-dollar-steak-on-a-first-date guy. Both parties screwed up in the end.
 
Ugh. Just....gross. let this be a lesson to people, don't sound like this person and you'll be a happier person, I could feel the misery seeping through the internet
 
I don't know why these cats don't learn how to be content with themselves and stop trying to find happiness in someone else. I understand the desire for pussy but this is taking it too far.

He didn't want pussy. He wanted the chance to win her heart.

Didn't you get the memo?
 
Is this a satire? I don't even know anymore. It's too dumb to be serious, but I've seen plenty of people who actually think like this, so I don't know.
 
I could sniff out that kind of bullshit pretty early, so no one not interested in me ever got a date out of me, but definitely had girls come to their senses once my interest had long waned. It's hurt, exaggerated and bitter... But it's kind of real for both sexes.

The stupid "girl takes off glasses and becomes a model" trope didn't come out of thin air.
 
My favourite bit is where Mr. Nice Guy is only interested in wrinkle-free girls ten years his junior. And no disgusting stretch marks or C-section scars, please, because he has too much money to settle for that. I'd love to see his picture.
 
The author who write that piece, is sort of imagining himself being Good Guy Cena, except the good looks and great bod

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I couldn't care less about another OT thread about fedoras, neckbeards, nice guys, etc. The dogpiling and circlejerking over how pathetic some people are is almost as lame as the actual people they're mocking.

HOWEVER

This gif is hilarious and it made the whole thread worthwhile for me. Cheers.
 
I've noticed that people that say their a nice guy and boohoo nice guys finish last are like people that say "I'm not racist"

They're both in denial
 
sort of a personal story of mine
I know where you’ve been, and I hope you’ve been tested.
this part actually applies to my life and my choice in women. throughout high school I was really attracted to some of the girls that my group of friends were friends with. the majority of the time I usually stuck to meeting girls outside of our group of friends and I did a pretty good job for the most part. my longest relationship unfortunately only lasted 2 years though.

throughout college, I'd take out a couple of the girls I was "friends" with on little solo dates that went well but I could tell they just weren't into me so I didn't pursue it. meanwhile, those same girls would date some of the guys I was friends with which would inevitably end in breakup a month or two down the line before the girl moved onto another one of my friends.

it seemed like at that point that these girls were going from guy to guy (all dudes I know) and I actually had many opportunities to "get" with a couple of them, but at that point... I knew who they were with prior to me and I was grossed out by the fact that I was gonna be tunnel buddies with a whole bunch of other people I know. I stuck to my studies and set fourth to establish a business career.

graduated college, got a job within 3 months of graduating which I stayed at for two years with two promotions, and then I moved on to one of my dream jobs. it's funny because as of 2 years ago those girls want to hang out and go out on dates, but I want nothing to do with them any more. I get satisfaction from their "change of heart" and I leave it at that.

I feel like I've dodged many bullets. It's also funny because some of them have mentioned that "they're impressed how I've turned my life around", but I've had the same goals since high school. it just wasn't apparent because I was in a band and liked to party lol.
 
I mean, I can agree with the overall message of the post to some level. Just not like that.

I have dated and known girl like the one in the OP though and it is true. They don't realize what they had until it is gone and then they want it back, but they cannot have it and it always kinda sticks with them somehow.

I was with this girl for almost 3 years, split up 8 months ago I guess(she knows better than I do), she cheated on me a little over a year in and I foolishly stayed with her. Love and all, but it was a shit relationship afterwards, long story. Anyways to wrap it up I realized one day I was really unhappy with my life and she was bringing me down a lot and I just got really tired of her shit, so I told her I was out. She cried, she threw a fit, she came back a week later and told me how much she loved me etc. etc. I told her I care about her and wish her well, we can be friends down the road, I hold no grudges, but this is what I want and that is that.

I banged her last weekend in my new place. I told her this is strictly sex, nothing more, she agreed, she is fine with that, but if she is trying to get back in and get back with me, it isn't going to happen.

Another girl I know dated one of my best friends when we were kids. They were together from 15 to 19 years old and she was kinda shitty to him. Left him a bunch of times for other dudes etc. Finally he had enough and he has moved on. He is getting his BA in EE in May, had a killer interview yesterday and is happy with a new girl who treats him right. The old girl has 3 kids, all different dads, a shit job, barely makes her bills, and lives a rather dull life now. 10 years later she still regrets treating him like she did because she knows he would have stayed with her(he would have if she was good to him, he really did love her), especially now seeing how much he has gained and where he is going in life.

My ex-wife is all of a sudden more interested in me again after she left me to become a lesbian for a year(she has a boyfriend now). She isn't really happy with her current man and she sees how I have grown and how I support myself and our daughter on my own completely, on top of my gym habits, school, etc. She too treated me a bit like shit and when she left I was devastated, but now I am happier than ever and I just chuckle when she cracks a half joke about how she had a dream we got back together.

Not saying only women do this, but I do not date men so I cannot attest to them doing the same thing with the women they date.

People really don't care or realize what they have until it is gone from them and the door is locked and they cannot get back in.
 
Why is "nice guy" such a thing anyway? How does one even become one?
by being meek and missing out.

Most of us have done it, it's just part of growing up, or alternatively, being stuck in the phase forever and being miserable like the champ that wrote that angry letter to his high school crush.
 
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