They do have the pink cheeks though. You can't just ignore the cheeks because it doesn't fit your theory. Marshall never has the bow tie. They're not comparable.
Once again, I have no idea what you're trying to say in your second to last sentence. If you want to debate the chorus men, you can also debate every other leaked character, like people were making fun of before.
"Did he really mean Chrom? Fire Emblem characters are confusing, two characters named Marth use the same sword!"
I made it pretty clear. They're very similar. They are both deserving of being discussed. The leaker made it perfectly clear he can be ambiguous. I'm not dealing with made up absolutes.
Now I have no idea what your last sentence is trying to say.
I made it pretty clear. They're very similar. They are both deserving of being discussed. The leaker made it perfectly clear he can be ambiguous. I'm not dealing with made up absolutes.
Now I have no idea what your last sentence is trying to say.
You're making ambiguity where there is none. The leaker clearly stated the character name. The Chorus Men have distinct characteristics that Marshall does not, a bow tie. The pea character is therefore clearly not Marshall. If you want to make up ambiguity in the leak, like you're doing with how "Chorus Men" could mean "Marshall" then "Chrom" could also mean "Lucina", because they have similar features despite clearly being different characters.
The closest Krispy Kreme to me is a drive to VA. Which isn't that far because of that bridge but it sstill a drive, good thing my grocery store sells boxes of them
Marth and Chrom distinct in both how they look and their personalities. Visually, both Marshall and Choir Boys are nondescript except for a few traits that they clearly share, like their cat mouths, and some minor details that they've both been depicted with (the bowtie and blush). The only clear, consistent difference that I've seen is that Marshall's fangs are always showing.
Marth and Chrom distinct in both how they look and their personalities. Visually, both Marshall and Choir Boys are nondescript except for a few traits that they clearly share, like their cat mouths, and some minor details that they've both been depicted with (the bowtie and blush).
You're making ambiguity where there is none. The leaker clearly stated the character name. The Chorus Men have distinct characteristics that Marshall does not, a bow tie. The pea character is therefore clearly not Marshall. If you want to make up ambiguity in the leak, like you're doing with how "Chorus Men" could mean "Marshall" then "Chrom" could also mean "Lucina", because they have similar features despite clearly being different characters.
*sigh* when this thing first came out people were already discussing Marshal. Its not a matter of "omg blue hair confusion". They're almost exactly the same except for a piece of clothing.
The Rhythm Heaven games have never clearly made the distinction between the two. They only make appearances with variances on their appearance.
One thing I hate is speculation about speculation. I'm not one to shoot down someone's discussion because of arbitrary technicalities.
I mean sure the leaker probably DID literally mean "Chorus Men", I'm not doubting it or trying to debunk it. But the idea of Marshal is equal to me because guess what?
Chrom dresses in a vest and a white cape and is clearly masculine. Lucina wears a hard-to-miss mask and a very dark jacket and cape and is much more androgynous in appearance than Chrom.
I was actually wrong about the fangs, I looked up some artwork with his mouth closed and his fangs aren't visible. So yeah, you're contending that the difference between Marshall and Choir Boys, that it makes it clear that they're different characters, is a fucking bowtie.
*sigh* when this thing first came out people were already discussing Marshal. Its not a matter of "omg blue hair confusion". They're almost exactly the same exact for a piece of clothing.
The Rhythm Heaven games have never clearly made the distinction between the two. They only appearances with variances on their appearance.
One thing I hate is speculation about speculation. I'm not one to shoot down someone's discussion because of arbitrary technicalities.
I mean sure the leaker probably DID literally mean "Chorus Men", I'm not doubting it or trying to debunk it. But the idea of Marshal is equal to me because guess what?
So here's the thing, this is pretty much all I have left to say on the matter. I still disagree with everything you just said, which isn't all that much as far as I can tell.
1. There is a distinct different between Marshall and the Chorus Men characters. They game shows us this by putting them both in Fever, the difference is the bow tie. There is absolutely no reason to think otherwise, other than fabricating ambiguity that isn't there.
2. If the leaker saw a picture of the characters or their name, there is 0% chance it's Marshall. It's impossible to confuse 3 characters with 1, and it's impossible to see "Marshall" and instead pick the official Japanese name of the "Chorus Men" game.
3. In the however unlikely event that the original leaker just received a rough translation, like "It's one of those kids from Rhythm Heaven", and then assumed that it was the Chorus Men, then that also means that's there's the equally likely possibility that every other character on the leak is actually some other character, and the leaker was just confused. This basically throws all attempts at discussing the leak at all out the window, so we'll ignore it.
Mainly because FE:A is awesome and my name is Marshall. It has been decided.
In seriousness, I hope Lucina is a alt costume for Chrom or Marth. Marth would make a lot of sense considering what happens in FE:A. I'm not holding my breath though. Male WFT gives a little bit of hope. I would so play Lucina over Marth.
So here's the thing, this is pretty much all I have left to say on the matter. I still disagree with everything you just said, which isn't all that much as far as I can tell.
Replaying the original on the VC at the moment and as far as sword wielding RPG Nintendo characters go I'd so much sooner have Issac than the rumoured Chrom and Shulk, even if Golden Sun is the lesser of the three games here to me.
It's all about that moveset potential, Psyenergy and Djinn could make for an interesting moveset, there's a ton of potential in there, I mean even the AT in Brawl turned the simplistic "move" psyenergy into a surprisingly effective means of getting a KO.
At the very least i'd hope to see the 3DS version's handheld stages focus take Golden Sun into account regardless of if it gets a playable character or not, only two music choices would be tricky business though.
So here's the thing, this is pretty much all I have left to say on the matter. I still disagree with everything you just said, which isn't all that much as far as I can tell.
1. There is a distinct different between Marshall and the Chorus Men characters. They game shows us this by putting them both in Fever, the difference is the bow tie. There is absolutely no reason to think otherwise, other than fabricating ambiguity that isn't there.
The biggest root of this particular debate is whether or not the guy in that peas minigame is Marshal or a Choir Boy. You insist that it's a Choir Boy because he's a bowtie. I personally think it resembles Marshal more. Both are characters very similar in appearance and very nondescript. And it's worth mentioning that not even the Rhythm Heaven has identified him as being one or the other. That means the answer is, what's the word, oh yes, ambiguous.
3. In the however unlikely event that the original leaker just received a rough translation, like "It's one of those kids from Rhythm Heaven", and then assumed that it was the Chorus Men, then that also means that's there's the equally likely possibility that every other character on the leak is actually some other character, and the leaker was just confused. This basically throws all attempts at discussing the leak at all out the window, so we'll ignore it.
I think it's fair to assume that the leaker is an enthusiast. I mean, he/she knows what Rhythm Heaven is, after all, and he's telling a gaming news site about the leak. Now, characters like Chrom, Palutena, and Shulk have been discussed a lot when talking about Smash newcomers, but until this leak, few were discussing possible Rhythm Heaven representation. Fire Emblem Awakening, Kid Icarus Uprising, and Xenoblade Chronicles are also much more talked about than the Rhythm Heaven series in general.
So, if he is a gaming or specifically Nintendo enthusiast, it's not a stretch to assume that he knows who these characters are. He also be the type doesn't play more cartoony or perceived-to-be-simplistic fare such as Rhythm Heaven. I mean, it has a lot less exposure, and it's arguably more niche than the aforementioned games. He is told that it's an nondescript cartoon creature from Rhythm Heaven, and if Google that, you'll find both Marshal and the Choir Boys, and if you look up one, you get pictures of the other as well. So no, I don't think it puts the rumor in doubt that much, or any moreso than just "Chorus Boys and Pokemon from X & Y" would.
Do we know exactly which date Nintendo's E3 Conference/Direct will be on yet? I booked all 3 days off in advance just to be EXTRA careful, but once I know the exact day for sure I'll redact the other two days since I haven't bothered with the other conferences for years now.
I got super bored and decided to do some math to see the relevant impact of characters within gaming comparing to the other Smash characters. I calculated the number of games each one appeared in (cameos included, remakes/re-releases not included. Pokemon only 1 of the 2 games per gen i.e. X not Y). The percentages basically show the number of titles each character was in.
Mario - 39%
Luigi - 15%
Yoshi - 10%
DK - 9%
Pikachu - 6%
Kirby - 6%
Link - 5%
Jigglypuff - 4%
Samus - 3%
Fox - 1%
Capt. Falcon - 1%
Ness - 0.2%
It's a nice break down of each series and how Nintendo utilizes them. The Mario series (And subsequently Yoshi and DK due to being in the universe) are huge, while Pokemon, Kirby and Zelda show up below. (Kirby has more appearances than Link!?)
I broke it down by game too. Luigi's relevancy grew since SSB, while Samus' dropped. Ness never even got a percentage point. Jigglypuff has rose to be a star player, even more recently (Between Brawl and now Jiggly is at 7% which is well above others).
It's not fantastic math, but it does show how important the characters are in Nintendo's portfolio and what might come.
Or you can all just call me crazy because I'm doing math in my free time.
For some reason I was convinced that would be this morning and so when we got the Yoshi picture I was legit bummed. But we have one more day this week left right?
For some reason I was convinced that would be this morning and so when we got the Yoshi picture I was legit bummed. But we have one more day this week left right?
I got super bored and decided to do some math to see the relevant impact of characters within gaming comparing to the other Smash characters. I calculated the number of games each one appeared in (cameos included, remakes/re-releases not included. Pokemon only 1 of the 2 games per gen i.e. X not Y). The percentages basically show the number of titles each character was in.
Mario - 39%
Luigi - 15%
Yoshi - 10%
DK - 9%
Pikachu - 6%
Kirby - 6%
Link - 5%
Jigglypuff - 4%
Samus - 3%
Fox - 1%
Capt. Falcon - 1%
Ness - 0.2%
It's a nice break down of each series and how Nintendo utilizes them. The Mario series (And subsequently Yoshi and DK due to being in the universe) are huge, while Pokemon, Kirby and Zelda show up below. (Kirby has more appearances than Link!?)
I broke it down by game too. Luigi's relevancy grew since SSB, while Samus' dropped. Ness never even got a percentage point. Jigglypuff has rose to be a star player, even more recently (Between Brawl and now Jiggly is at 7% which is well above others).
It's not fantastic math, but it does show how important the characters are in Nintendo's portfolio and what might come.
Or you can all just call me crazy because I'm doing math in my free time.
I got super bored and decided to do some math to see the relevant impact of characters within gaming comparing to the other Smash characters. I calculated the number of games each one appeared in (cameos included, remakes/re-releases not included. Pokemon only 1 of the 2 games per gen i.e. X not Y). The percentages basically show the number of titles each character was in.
Mario - 39%
Luigi - 15%
Yoshi - 10%
DK - 9%
Pikachu - 6%
Kirby - 6%
Link - 5%
Jigglypuff - 4%
Samus - 3%
Fox - 1%
Capt. Falcon - 1%
Ness - 0.2%
It's a nice break down of each series and how Nintendo utilizes them. The Mario series (And subsequently Yoshi and DK due to being in the universe) are huge, while Pokemon, Kirby and Zelda show up below. (Kirby has more appearances than Link!?)
I broke it down by game too. Luigi's relevancy grew since SSB, while Samus' dropped. Ness never even got a percentage point. Jigglypuff has rose to be a star player, even more recently (Between Brawl and now Jiggly is at 7% which is well above others).
It's not fantastic math, but it does show how important the characters are in Nintendo's portfolio and what might come.
Or you can all just call me crazy because I'm doing math in my free time.
It's a nice break down of each series and how Nintendo utilizes them. The Mario series (And subsequently Yoshi and DK due to being in the universe) are huge, while Pokemon, Kirby and Zelda show up below. (Kirby has more appearances than Link!?)
Not only does Kirby make more appearances than Link, Kirby has more games than Link. He's their third biggest franchise in terms of sheer size and longevity, if not popularity.
For some reason I was convinced that would be this morning and so when we got the Yoshi picture I was legit bummed. But we have one more day this week left right?
I saw this on Tumblr and I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove.
The pose doesn't necessarily make much sense anatomy-wise but it looks consistent and cool enough when put alongside the rest of the game's more exaggerated features, which is fine by me.
Just watched game explains pokemon video and not once did I notice or read anything about Zoroark being in the line up shown in the greninja trailer, but damn thats an AMAZING pokeball pokemon
Just watched game explains pokemon video and not once did I notice or read anything about Zoroark being in the line up shown in the greninja trailer, but damn thats an AMAZING pokeball pokemon
To be fair there are a LOT of post in this thread and there was a ton of info from that direct, sad I missed the memo until now but I'm even more hyped
To be fair there are a LOT of post in this thread and there was a ton of info from that direct, sad I missed the memo until now but I'm even more hyped
