MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Yet another victim of my tasteless puns.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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Yet another victim of my tasteless puns.
Can the wii U even handle all the fab.
Jolyne would be interesting. Grab-based character?
Benzychenz
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Oh please, it's the same Ridley. If the original Metroid/Super Metroid Ridley appeared in a 3D game he wouldn't be flying around in the fetal position.
Hell, he already was more 'open' flying around in Brawl:
Beelzebufo
Banned
You're trivializing the issue. Bowser already pushes the limits for character size (as the largest character, he actually doesn't fit on Battlefield, although just barely). By this estimate, Ridley takes up significantly more spece than Bowser. It wouldn't work.
There is no limit for character size beyond having to be grab-able. Generally, a large hitbox is a disadvantage, so the worst you risk is an underpowered character.
Ever played MvC2? Ridley has a lot of Sentinel-like traits.
Beelzebufo
Banned
MvC2 is not a Smash Bros game. The main difference is that Smash is platform-focused, among other things. This is what I meant by saying that Ridley would be too big for the stage. This is a problem that Sentinel doesn't have, because his stage has no boundaries other than eventual left and right ones. That's a poor argument.
The first part is also completely made up.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Subject Change.
So Giga Bowser. Remain as Final Smash or we go back to epic scary bonus boss?
Gonna be honest Giga Bowser in Brawl was underwhelming. You took too much damage, got framelocked while taking said damage and elemental effects to attacks while cool weren't always that effective IMO.
Thoughts?
So Giga Bowser. Remain as Final Smash or we go back to epic scary bonus boss?
Gonna be honest Giga Bowser in Brawl was underwhelming. You took too much damage, got framelocked while taking said damage and elemental effects to attacks while cool weren't always that effective IMO.
Thoughts?
Benzychenz
Member
Change. Giga Bowser was a terrible final smash and it had nothing to do with the actual Mario games. Give him his Koopa Clown Car or an airship or something.
it's an analogy for how Ridley could play, not a 1-to-1 representation.
Your platform focus comment is silly. Different characters have advantages on different type of terrain, like how Little Mac gets castrated by platforms thanks to his horrid aerial game. Perhaps Ridley has platforms as a weakness and prefers open space, or vice-versa.
Not to mention Bowser fits comfortably on any platform so far.
???
There is no magic limit for character size, at least none we've reached. Before Brawl, no character was near as big as Brawl Bowser; was Brawl Bowser over this magic limit? Well what about Bowser but 10% bigger? Is that suddenly too much?
People need to realize that creativity and character design are not limited to what we already have. Without trying out new things, we'd never have cast members like Ice Climbers, Rosalina, and Sheik.
theprodigy
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MrSaturn99
Member
I thought it was an incredible piece of fanservice and I don't think anything in the Mario game is comparable to it. No reason to change it.
Giga Bowser is one of the better ideas for a final smash and it's a hit with the kiddies. Just make Giga better and things will be fixed.
theprodigy
Member
Toxi, I swear half your posts are talking about Ridley or responding to people talking about him
lol
lol
People are talking more about Ridley recently for some reason. You'd think him getting almost deconfirmed would let up the discussion.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Ridley is too big of a character to not talk about.
There is. Bowser should eat a Grand Star to become bigger or become bigger on his own and not turn into a deformed freak. So basically, a giant Bowser.
theprodigy
Member
give him the Koopa Clown Car or something instead
Not a 9/10? Tsk, tsk IGNProdigy
Beelzebufo
Banned
You obviously completely made the grabbing limit up, because as you said there is none that we know. That doesn't mean that there isn't a size limit however. You made up your own rule. By your same logic, they could make an ungrabbable character if they really wanted to. We really have no idea what the limit is. So let's just throw that comment out, it adds nothing.
The problem isn't that Ridley would be at a disadvantage or anything like that, the problem is that he would completely destroy stage design. You don't seem to understand the point. On Battlefield, for example, Ridley would constantly be clipping significantly through a platform no matter where he stood. In places like Palutena's temple, he wouldn't be able to get through doorways. That's the problem, his size is significant enough relative to other characters that you would have to redesign stages around him. This is why you were trivilizing the issue when you seemed to imply that being a different size was only a minor problem. It's not.
Of course, I'm sure Sakurai could design all of the stages to accomodate Ridley if he really wanted to. Bowser already slightly has this problem, as I mentioned. My point is that based in the relative sizes in that sketch, I think Ridley looks too big to be accommodated by the stages we've seen. Bowsers already pushing it, I think Ridley would push it over the edge based on those shadow sizes.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I would welcome Dreamy Bowser. I think he looks aesthetically more awesome then Giga or Giant Bowser.
But I guess I would just want more costume changes aka separate models for each character.
MrSaturn99
Member
Chalk it up to the desperate delusions of his supporters (not necessarily you).
Pretty boring idea if you ask me; that'd be just him souped up on Super Mushrooms.
It's fucking Giga Bowser, what's not to like?
theprodigy
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
we can go with 8.8/10 for another reference
Or 7.5
The aggressive tenacity of Zelda fans is something to be feared. Oh boy. I was shaking my head the whole time reading about all the drama the internet made a fuss over with those scores.
Grabbing part is pretty much required to let someone play like a Smash character. If a character is too small or too large to get grabbed, they're missing out on a large part of the game.
They could make an ungrabbable character. I just think it's a bad idea because grabs are actually an important part of combat.
Of course if you throw bigger-than-Bowser characters into Smash 4 as is, it won't work well. If you throw Little Mac into Brawl's engine, he won't work well. You design a game as a whole.
Although it seems like we're arguing different things. I'm arguing a larger-than-Bowser Ridley could work in Smash Bris in general, you're talking about Ridley speculation for Smash 4.
Oh don't worry, I've already consigned myself to the fact the roster will be shit.
Benzychenz
Member
The fact it's an original Smash Bros thing rather than something from the Mario games.
It's pretty annoying that Sakurai gave his baby Kirby a new final smash when his old one was already from Kirby games and yet Samus still has her zero laser (and I'm sure many others will have their old ones too).
theprodigy
Member
you'll get your old recycled voices and you'll like it!
we can go with 8.8/10 for another reference
THAT'S IT! I'M GONNA GO MAKE A THREAD COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW IT'S NOT A PERFECT SCORE!1!1!
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
DeDeDe better get a new one. Masked DeDeDe mode would be preferable. Minion rain is fun and stuff but eh.
Megaman gets five of those at the same time in his.
I'd love a masked Dedede costume.
Yeah, but Giga Bowser is actually cool. Zero Laser is just boring Shinkyu Hadouken bullshit.
Spring-Loaded
Member
I hope Snake gets a Quiet alternate for Smash.
Chico's final smash turns him into Quiet.
And nothing of value was lost.
Without Waddle Dees and Waddle Doos in the minion toss, it seems kinda silly to keep it as it was. Masked Dedede is just too perfect.
Was this posted?
https://www.google.com/#q=site:smashbros.com shulk&safe=active
Basically searching that plus something else at the end may or may not link you to the main site.
If you search veterans or stuff that was in brawl you get brawl links, Robin leads to the main site too, but the spanish one. Metwo's first result is the greninja page.
Don't think it means anything cause of some of the weird stuff like searching Ridley taking you to Wii Fit Trainer's as the second result, buts interesting to see what you get.
https://www.google.com/#q=site:smashbros.com shulk&safe=active
Basically searching that plus something else at the end may or may not link you to the main site.
If you search veterans or stuff that was in brawl you get brawl links, Robin leads to the main site too, but the spanish one. Metwo's first result is the greninja page.
Don't think it means anything cause of some of the weird stuff like searching Ridley taking you to Wii Fit Trainer's as the second result, buts interesting to see what you get.
shulk confirmed
MrSaturn99
Member
Been hoping for a Masked Dedede FS.
*shrug*
It references one of the most classic moments in Melee and I thought it was fun as shit to play as. I doubt something like the Koopa Clown Car will generate the same level of excitement and joy of control.
And it's not like he's just changing the Kirby characters, don't forget Luigi is getting the Poltergust this time for his FS.
*shrug*
It references one of the most classic moments in Melee and I thought it was fun as shit to play as. I doubt something like the Koopa Clown Car will generate the same level of excitement and joy of control.
And it's not like he's just changing the Kirby characters, don't forget Luigi is getting the Poltergust this time for his FS.
theprodigy
Member
Was this posted?
https://www.google.com/#q=site:smashbros.com shulk&safe=active
Basically searching that plus something else at the end may or may not link you to the main site.
If you search veterans or stuff that was in brawl you get brawl links, Robin leads to the main site too, but the spanish one. Metwo's first result is the greninja page.
Don't think it means anything cause of some of the weird stuff like searching Ridley taking you to Wii Fit Trainer's as the second result, buts interesting to see what you get.
shulk confirmed
uh.....ok I guess?
Was this posted?
https://www.google.com/#q=site:smashbros.com shulk&safe=active
Basically searching that plus something else at the end may or may not link you to the main site.
If you search veterans or stuff that was in brawl you get brawl links, Robin leads to the main site too, but the spanish one. Metwo's first result is the greninja page.
Don't think it means anything cause of some of the weird stuff like searching Ridley taking you to Wii Fit Trainer's as the second result, buts interesting to see what you get.
shulk confirmed
We're trying to force a Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 style leak now? I think Nintendo's better at HTML collectively than Capcom interns though.
Benzychenz
Member
We're trying to force a Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 style leak now? I think Nintendo's better at HTML collectively than Capcom interns though.
Heh not really, just had some fun looking around. The results are weird, Isaac's only result is Marth's Wii U page for example.
It obviously doesn't mean anything, but I am curious and the results are interesting to see.
I thought the Zero Laser was pretty cool. 
I would rather have something else.
Well I don't want a giant Bowser, but Giga Bowser looks like an ugly deformed version of Bowser.
I would rather have something else.
Google search silliness
Search Goku.
Benzychenz
Member
It links to Little Mac's page!
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And Bayonetta links to ZSS? Alt costumes confirmed!
You know what'd be really funny? If there was an orange and black striped cat throwing baseballs. Only the baseballs are invisible because he's a magic car. And you have to hit 28 of them. TWENTY-EIGHT.
That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Syrup used to be so popular back during Brawl... What happened?tried it for captain syrup also lol
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