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Donald Sterling (slum lord and LA Clippers Owner).. yeah, still a racist scum bag
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'Mo money 'mo problems.
While we're on the topic of Sterling, here's a fun quote from his deposition.
This can't be real. This is some Steve Zisou level shit.
entremet
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Bigotry is not rational.
It's brilliant. The punch line at the end is incredible.
I'm serious. Are you? Or do you have a point?
I'm just curious as to how the lives of middle-class families would be "ruined" by the public acting on their outrage against a racist.
That's all.
There are more people who are putting in hours at a sporting events than the players and billionaire owner.
And would they lose employment by the ousting of the owner?
Show me where I suggested that?
If there is a work stoppage because the players refuse to play, then yes. There will be individuals losing income they were anticipating otherwise.
I think you're just arriving to the story and possibly have limited knowledge about the business portion of the sport.
You also just cherry picked a piece of the overall point, which was posted in response to something not directly related to the point you're making.
To answer your question though, yes. They are also okay with it as well for very obvious reasons.
MWS Natural
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Link? Proof? Study? 1st time I've heard that one. Coming from friends who have lived there that definitely wasn't their experience. I'd dare to say that Boston is probably the whitest and most racist city in the northeast.
I'm sorry that I don't have any highly credible Deadspin articles to link you. I just paid attention in history and learned some things about of the earliest black surgeons in the country and other professions.
I also learned that the world is pretty racist as well. Neat stuff!
The One and Done
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Racism still alive they just be concealing it.
gutter_trash
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I listened to the audio, what a 19th Century scumbag
jediyoshi
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While we're on the topic of Sterling, here's a fun quote from his deposition.
That's too perfect.
ActStriker
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Anyone got the old article about Sterling being a racist slumlord? I remember reading a pretty lengthy one a few years ago but I don't remember where it's from.
spindashing
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LOLWhile we're on the topic of Sterling, here's a fun quote from his deposition.
Amazingly that's the way he talks about black people TO black people.
Who cares whether it was set up by that girl or not? No one forced him to air his racist views.
Dude, what the fuck are you taking about? If you believe that some fool's job matters more than the integrity & self-respect of the people responsible for that fool being able to work, that's fine. But you don't get to be petulant when people question your moral priorities.
If the players want to boycott the games, not only would the be within their rights, but they would be completely justified and have the backing of pubic opinion. Any collateral damage of people not being able to work is irrelevant...
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qizah
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Can the NBA actually punish him beyond a fine, or are they stuck at a standstill? I don't know how it works at all, but I'm curious as to how much power they'd have in a situation like this.
FunnyBunny
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Boston is a notoriously racist city. You paid attention in history? Then you should know the court ordered integration of city schools in the 1970s caused riots and scarred the city.
I lived there. There's defacto segregation (look at Census maps) and minorities are treated as outsiders in many neighborhoods.
Boston is many things, but a progressive and nurturing safe haven for minorities it is not.
Edit: I saw this was addressed earlier in the thread. I'll move on, apologies for bringing up a tangent that already played out.
Sho_Nuff82
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Boston may have its share of problems but neither of those qualifiers are remotely true. Back in Jersey we had towns that were breeding grounds for the kkk, and up in Vermont/Maine/NH there are entire townships with zero black people.
Boston is a very progressive place (MA is in general), look at how quickly commie medicine and the genderless dystopia were implemented compared to the rest of the country.
You paid attention to history and came to the conclusion that Boston is one of the most progressive cities for black people? Either someone lied to you or you're lying to us because that couldn't be further from the truth.
The problem is that it still wouldn't work because of how the NBA shares their money with all the teams. Until very recently, Sterling was known as an owner who went out of his way to be as cheap as possible and had no problem with the Clippers not being competitive because he was making money regardless. The only real way to punish him is to take the team away, which doesn't seem like an easy thing to do.
While we're on the topic of Sterling, here's a fun quote from his deposition.
Keep entertaining me, reality.
br0ken_shad0w
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Owners are truly the worst thing about sports. And Donald Sterling is among the worst of them.
At least now that the Clippers are good, maybe it won't be swept under the rug like in the Stern era.
At least now that the Clippers are good, maybe it won't be swept under the rug like in the Stern era.
Keep lying to yourself, or maybe travel someday.
VeryGooster
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Apparently Deadspin got an extended version of the whole conversation http://goo.gl/0GDy6M
I arrived to this story when it broke just like everyone else. Also, because I'm from Los Angeles, I'd already known about Donald Sterling's previous accusations of racism regarding his rental properties.
But, I'll admit that I don't follow sports or know a whole lot about them, so in regards to the finer points of the sport you're right.
So help me out: how is this worse than the 2011 Lockout that shut down the entire league and was largely over money? That was allowed to happen, but the league won't (or shouldn't, as you seem to believe) take a stand against one team owner and his blatant and unforgivable racism because it might cost some jobs in the process? How does that work? Honest question.
People joked about him being a slave owner but he really does seem to think that he owns the players simply because he signs the checks.
Sure. The jobs of vendors, ushers, etc was a point made through a following discussion.
There are two reasons why they won't. Primary is that as a team, they all have worked hard to get where they are. Pride is a factor. If this was the regular season, probably more leverage to make a point.
The second is Chris Paul being the head of the player's union. It's his job to ensure that NBA players get every shiny penny possible. Peanuts compared to their original contracts, but still money on the table, and potential boosted careers for fringe players based upon postseason performances.
Simple fact is they are going to take this bigot's money, and when it's all done? They are going to probably find other ways to take even more of it. Fun time to be a lawyer in the NBA.
I will also note the notion someone else made about them throwing the game is one of the most foolish things imaginable. At least I understand the mindset of someone asking "Why don't they sit out?"
ReturnOfTheRAT
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She tried and then gives up to appease him, and then challenges him again which leads to more idiocy on his part.
GoldenEye 007
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I don't understand why the Clippers players wouldn't walk out until the owner is booted.
I mean, talk about a strong statement in the middle of the playoffs. I guarantee the league would take action ASAP if the players took such a drastic action. It would seem like the right thing to do despite players' "love of the game."
I mean, talk about a strong statement in the middle of the playoffs. I guarantee the league would take action ASAP if the players took such a drastic action. It would seem like the right thing to do despite players' "love of the game."
What gets me is that later in the transcript he starts saying, "You think I'm a racist, don't you?" As if that somehow isn't the natural conclusion at which to arrive. And yet, he's completely serious.
How does someone hold these views on blacks (dark-skinned people in general), and yet NOT think they're racist? Does he really think it's possible to hold such discriminatory views on skin color (which seems to be the focus of much of his ire here) completely independent of his overall views on race? And then you keep listening and realize the answer is yes!
The world astounds me.
cripterion
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Ludicrous Speed
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I live in Boston. This seems to be fairly true. I was shocked at the amount of racism I encountered when I moved here.
killertofu
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I like the Clippers but I'd rather have them walk out
CharlieDigital
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Sanjuro's position borders on the absurd. It's a simplistic way of thinking that believes that people only care about jobs and their paychecks and not a social right or a social good.
The idea that one should never protest the actions of the wealthy because of jobs is one that does not recognize that millions before have sacrificed and suffered for our rights today and the reality of how social progress has been made for not just decades, but centuries. People have fought, protested, sacrificed, and risen up against the powerful and wealthy to gain dignity, rights, and freedom.
It would be the same as a Civil war era slave telling others not to protest because even though they are servants and slaves, that is better than not having food or shelter. Of course, there were slaves that thought this, I'm sure, but would any of them think that way today? That it was not worth it? That they'd rather still be slaves?
Or perhaps saying that Rosa Parks should have thought about her job instead of protesting.
The 40 hour work week. Abolishment of child labor. Safe working conditions. Your right to sue your employer for unfair termination. These are not rights gifted or granted by the rich from the goodness of their hearts, but rights which were fought for through sacrifice and protest by generations of Americans who sacrificed and suffered.
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