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It's the NAS (Network Attached Storage) Thread, yo.

Now my HD movies are actually streaming well, now that I have my computer connected to the Internet with a cable.

But why do I have to connect to my NAS every single time I start up my computer? I have my movies located on my NAS, and then I map that folder with a letter, so I can see it in My Computer but I have to connect every time.

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Do you have it set to "Reconnect at sign in"?
 
Is there any insane user like me here ?

I have eight 1TB samsung 103sj in RAID 0 for about 4 years without a problem !

But know they´re really dusty and im wondering if is safer to let them be or to clean them ?!
 
For guys like us who build their own stuff and like tinkering with stuff, yeah, that's what we'd probably do. I'm guessing that the average home user would feel better with something with a single RMA path and limited setup.



You mean you're getting a Windows prompt for a username and password?
Yeah, and then I have to insert my NAS username and password.

Do you have it set to "Reconnect at sign in"?
Yes I have.

But it fails to connect every time I start up my computer.
 
Yeah, and then I have to insert my NAS username and password.


Yes I have.

But it fails to connect every time I start up my computer.

how is the NAS sharing the drive? CIFS?

I know sometimes windows will start up before the network is ready and thus you would be in windows and your drive map(s) will try to connect before network is ready.
There is a group policy you can set in gpedit.msc that says "wait for network at startup or logon" (paraphrasing) I'm not sure I would recommend that though as it may take forever to login sometimes.

Do you check "remember credentials" when you connect? And if so, is it not remembering them?
 
THX!
What are the chances to get it done without data loss?

That redundancy is what Raid is for. You can easily replace the drive without ever losing access to your data and it's a rather trivial procedure. However, if you are really concerned about your data, you should maybe create a backup for the data on the NAS. Just some external disks you don't keep connected at all times. That way you could keep your data safe even if the NAS breaks completely.
 
how is the NAS sharing the drive? CIFS?

I know sometimes windows will start up before the network is ready and thus you would be in windows and your drive map(s) will try to connect before network is ready.
There is a group policy you can set in gpedit.msc that says "wait for network at startup or logon" (paraphrasing) I'm not sure I would recommend that though as it may take forever to login sometimes.

Do you check "remember credentials" when you connect? And if so, is it not remembering them?
Remember credentials is checked and it don't remember them. :(

What is CIFS?
 
However, if you are really concerned about your data, you should maybe create a backup for the data on the NAS. Just some external disks you don't keep connected at all times. That way you could keep your data safe even if the NAS breaks completely.

Sure, but the amount of data is now so large, that this is hard to do.
 
Hey guys I have got a curious question for those with more experience with NAS/SAN storage. Say a NAS/SAN server is coming to full storage use and there's no more room to expand on there. What would be the best practice to extend the drives that have been created from this? Is it safe to buy another SAN/NAS server and then extend the already existing mapped drives space and use the new storage server for that so the data in essence would be spread over there because the big flaw I see is the possible risk of fucking it up if the server suddenly went down or something. Just wanted someones input with this :)
 
Am I right in thinking I can get a better performing white box for the same price a Ds1513+?

Seems like for 800 i should be able to get a relatively low power system with more storage potential.

So my only loss is ease of use?
 
Am I right in thinking I can get a better performing white box for the same price a Ds1513+?

Seems like for 800 i should be able to get a relatively low power system with more storage potential.

So my only loss is ease of use?

Correct. It's just a matter of product support and finding the right parts. But if you do have the time for it, would be better value with a white box.

(In saying that, even though I quite often build PCs/servers/spec them out and customise to my requirements, I actually went for a DS713+ at home with a 2 bay addon (DX213) simply due to not wanting to play around... but then I end up playing with DiskStation anyway >_>).

Going to need to build a whitebox server for myself soon, probably going to start with 8x4TB (or hopefully by the time I actually do it after my wedding, 6TB drives are cheaper) with room for 16 or 32 drives total (split across multiple machines/locations to ensure backups are present).
 
I have a NAS with Ubuntu and 2x2TB. I'm using it mainly for XBMC and the iTunes media folder. It worked all like a charme for quite some time but since a few weeks, I have everything twice in XBMC which is because when copying files from my Mac, it also puts appledouble-files to the NAS. Is there any way to prevent this?
 
Remember credentials is checked and it don't remember them. :(

What is CIFS?
I would see if your NAS can do CIFS, it will make your life easier for shared drives in windows.

Other than that,windows updates and google "mapped drive fails to connect" or something like that, chances are you arent the first person to have this problem.

Hey guys I have got a curious question for those with more experience with NAS/SAN storage. Say a NAS/SAN server is coming to full storage use and there's no more room to expand on there. What would be the best practice to extend the drives that have been created from this? Is it safe to buy another SAN/NAS server and then extend the already existing mapped drives space and use the new storage server for that so the data in essence would be spread over there because the big flaw I see is the possible risk of fucking it up if the server suddenly went down or something. Just wanted someones input with this :)
What you're talking about is super high end (think tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars) to my knowledge no consumer grade NAS/SANs support this.

I am running into this myself as well with my Freenas, and what I plan on doing is using a bigger box with more drive bay capacity and migrating the drives to it physically, and then adding drives to the array.

I have a NAS with Ubuntu and 2x2TB. I'm using it mainly for XBMC and the iTunes media folder. It worked all like a charme for quite some time but since a few weeks, I have everything twice in XBMC which is because when copying files from my Mac, it also puts appledouble-files to the NAS. Is there any way to prevent this?
it sounds like XBMC is reading the entire share, I would set to only read the folder where your media is and then tell it to clean the database.
 
I would see if your NAS can do CIFS, it will make your life easier for shared drives in windows.

Other than that,windows updates and google "mapped drive fails to connect" or something like that, chances are you arent the first person to have this problem.

What you're talking about is super high end (think tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars) to my knowledge no consumer grade NAS/SANs support this.

I am running into this myself as well with my Freenas, and what I plan on doing is using a bigger box with more drive bay capacity and migrating the drives to it physically, and then adding drives to the array.


it sounds like XBMC is reading the entire share, I would set to only read the folder where your media is and then tell it to clean the database.
Well, when I search, it seems my DS411J supports cifs.
 
Looks like I´m fucked... any kind of help would be greatly appreciated!

To reiterate:
- Buffalo NAS with 4x 3TB HDD, set to RAID5
- some day HDD#3 shows a red light, does not seem to be fixable
- so I buy a replacement drive
-- exchanged HDD #3
-- boot up NAS
-- go to the "rebuild RAID array" option
-- NAS starts buy saying it needs to format the HDD (but does not say which)
-- after a very long time (2h) it finishes this task, says it starts to rebuild
-- just a couple seconds later stops the rebuild process

Now it shows yellow lights for HDD #2 AND the just replaced HDD #3. No more raid array. Says "limited use", and doesn´t let me do anything. :(
 
Too expensive for me... much cheaper to build or buy a super-cheap pc and go that route

this... i mean now with the AMD kabini or low level apu's < 80 bucks , cheap mobo, and they have sata 6gps... might as well make a little pc load up the software and get a bunch of WD red hdd's for massive amts of storage/backup....hmmm gonna see what i can do on newegg right now.
 
No troubleshooting customer support unless you are part of the (paid) automatic backup program. Which I am not.

From what I can see you just need to register your product.

If that's not the case, and their ticket-based helpdesk is truly behind a paywall, then that's the worst customer service in the world.
 
I would see if your NAS can do CIFS, it will make your life easier for shared drives in windows.

Other than that,windows updates and google "mapped drive fails to connect" or something like that, chances are you arent the first person to have this problem.

What you're talking about is super high end (think tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars) to my knowledge no consumer grade NAS/SANs support this.

I am running into this myself as well with my Freenas, and what I plan on doing is using a bigger box with more drive bay capacity and migrating the drives to it physically, and then adding drives to the array.


it sounds like XBMC is reading the entire share, I would set to only read the folder where your media is and then tell it to clean the database.


Data storage guy here, Best bet is to create a larger aggregate and migrate the data over. Its the easiest and safest solution but it will be time consuming.
 
No troubleshooting customer support unless you are part of the (paid) automatic backup program. Which I am not.

If that's the case, there has got to be an official forum, or forum that can help you out. The only generic NAS forum I know is wegotserved.com, but it's not very active for non-WHS servers.

I was a little concerned in your first post about the red status LED and people immediately jumping to a failed HDD without any further analysis, and it sounds like I wasn't out of line. But at this point you really need Buffalo-specific assistance before you potentially make things worse, if possible.
 
Looks like I´m fucked... any kind of help would be greatly appreciated!

To reiterate:
- Buffalo NAS with 4x 3TB HDD, set to RAID5
- some day HDD#3 shows a red light, does not seem to be fixable
- so I buy a replacement drive
-- exchanged HDD #3
-- boot up NAS
-- go to the "rebuild RAID array" option
-- NAS starts buy saying it needs to format the HDD (but does not say which)
-- after a very long time (2h) it finishes this task, says it starts to rebuild
-- just a couple seconds later stops the rebuild process

Now it shows yellow lights for HDD #2 AND the just replaced HDD #3. No more raid array. Says "limited use", and doesn´t let me do anything. :(


Looks l;like the raid rebuild failed and now the root aggregate is offline. I'm not sure how you can bring it back online on the device but I would search online for what file system and commands are being used in the device and perhaps try to log into the device and gain a command prompt and try to manually rebuild the aggregate.

Incidentally this is one of the true issues with using an in-box solution for data storage is that you have very little controls over the root filesystem where as something you may have put together yourself, even if it just a vm attached to a filesystem would allow you much more control over the recovery process should you data become inconsistentl.
 
I want to build a NAS. A couple years back I kinda didn't think what I wanted to do with my media setup all the way through. My first plan was to just build a PC with a good processor (2500k) at the time so when I rip movies I'd be able to convert them to a lower size pretty quickly. I never ended up converting them though, instead I just streamed the full rips on a NFS share to my Boxee, which worked well until I got annoyed by lack of support. I decided at the time I couldn't really afford both a PC and NAS so I stuck with adding a couple drives to my PC. Since then I've pretty much adopted using Plex and AirVideo as my client options..so I transcode now which is nice because of the processor I have.

Anywho long story short, if I were to build a NAS now to store my movies, what's my best bet for a OS? I actually have access to Windows Server 2012. Think that would be alright or is there something better out there for serving up file shares?

I'm still hesitant to build because I don't want to make my 2500k useless. Feels like a waste of money. :( I don't want to repurpose it into the server either because I feel like I'm wasting the processors potential for something like gaming if I ever feel like getting into Steam.

I dunno man.
 
Thanks.

I made mine connect instantly everytime I start up my PC, but now it won't let me map more than one drive. It just gives me this message:

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I want to back up my Synology running DSM5 to an external usb drive. I don't want to keep the usb drive plugged in at all times, but only plug it in every couple of weeks and start a backup. How do I best go about this?

Should I use Time Backup or Backup and Restore?
 
I made my NAS work with my movies so it doesn't lag anymore. Apparently it was an issue with Plex.

I'm wondering what else I can use my Synology DS411J for besides backups and storing content on it.
 
I'm wondering what else I can use my Synology DS411J for besides backups and storing content on it.

I'm not sure on the specs of the operating system used by Synology (and in your particular model) but I figure you can use it as a download server, a testbed web server (if that interests you), DLNA, etc.

But you've met the two intrinsic primary functions of the device. Like I've said before, commercial home NAS have reached the point in their evolution where new vendor-provided software & apps matter more than hardware (due to general hardware similarities and having those two intrinsic primary functions.) But with older, underpowered NAS like the one you have, I don't see there being a lot of those software & apps that will run on it.

If Synology have an app/software centre on their NAS you could check that out though.
 
Need some help / suggestions. I'm new to the NAS game and recently purchased a QNAP TS-212P along with two 1TB WD Red drives. The problem I'm having is with my old router the max transfer speed I was getting was ~1.5MB/s and with my new router I'm now getting 4MB/s max when transferring files to or from the NAS.

My setup consists of the the following:
QNAP TS-212P
2 WD Red's in RAID 1 config
Netgear R7000 (NAS plugged into gigabit port)
- Both the router admin page and QNAP settings confirm it is utilizing a 1GB link
File transfers utilizing a mapped network drive in Windows 8.1

I was under the assumption I should be getting at least in the 40-50 MB/s read / write speeds so what I'm currently getting is pretty disappointing. Any suggestions from the experts?
 
What is your network setup? Jumbo Frames enabled? Shouldn't matter , trying to think of things..

Can you try another computer?
 
What is your network setup? Jumbo Frames enabled? Shouldn't matter , trying to think of things..

Can you try another computer?

What do you mean by network setup? I don't believe I have Jumbo Frames enabled as I'm running the stock firmware for the R7000 (I believe it is available on DD-WRT though).

I don't have another computer to test it out with unfortunately.
 
Just found this thread. I built my NAS last year and figured it post it here. I do need to update my drives though to something larger now that prices are coming back down again.

The goal of my build, was to be affordable, low-power, and quiet. My Hardware Specs are Below:

* MoBo: ASUS C60M1-I
* CPU: Integrated AMD Fusion APU C-60 \ (1.0GHz, dual core)
* RAM: Kingston Technology HyperX Blu 8GB (2x4GB) 1333MHz DDR3 CL9
* Case: Bitfenix Prodigy - Arctic White
* Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts EA-380D Green 380 Watt 80 PLUS BRONZE
* HD: x4 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB in Raid-Z
* OS: FreeNAS 8.3.1 (Running off Sandisk4gb Jump Drive)

That motherboard is built for a home NAS since it has 6 Native SATA 6Gb/s ports. Not Counting the Drives I already owned, the whole package cost me **$196.27**

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I'm not sure on the specs of the operating system used by Synology (and in your particular model) but I figure you can use it as a download server, a testbed web server (if that interests you), DLNA, etc.

But you've met the two intrinsic primary functions of the device. Like I've said before, commercial home NAS have reached the point in their evolution where new vendor-provided software & apps matter more than hardware (due to general hardware similarities and having those two intrinsic primary functions.) But with older, underpowered NAS like the one you have, I don't see there being a lot of those software & apps that will run on it.

If Synology have an app/software centre on their NAS you could check that out though.
Old and underpowered already!?

I should also be able to use it as my own private cloud but I guess I have to change ports to access my NAS from outside my home?
 
Just found this thread. I built my NAS last year and figured it post it here. I do need to update my drives though to something larger now that prices are coming back down again.

Pretty cool build but for other people , if going ZFS i really really recommend ECC memory.
 
Old and underpowered already!?

My justification for that statement/conclusion is that your model (DS411J) is around 3-4 years old, is no longer mentioned on the Synology website (thus probably discontinued.) Also the specs - a 16-bit single-core Marvell at 1.2Ghz with 128MB DDR2 RAM - won't be enough to run anything that's too resource intensive. But with that said it's more than enough for storage, backup and generic tasks.

I should also be able to use it as my own private cloud but I guess I have to change ports to access my NAS from outside my home?

I think Synology call that app the Cloud Station, and I think you can find a tutorial here: https://www.synology.com/en-us/support/tutorials/529
 
Thanks for the link. :)

I think I bought it 2 years ago when it was the hot thing and recommended one for normal users.

I just need it for backup, storage and access to photos via cloud would be wonderful. Maybe also use it for surveillance cameras.

But right now I just can't figure out how to install the latest DSM. =/
 
Was at Fry's the other day getting hardware for a Hyper-V server I'm going to build. Happened to walk down the HDD aisle, they had 3tb western digital green open boxes for $84 each. I grabbed all five of them. Going to migrate my freenas to a bigger box with my drive bays.
 
So I'm reading that guide. Did I understand it right that I need to store all of my photos locally on my computer which will then sync them to the NAS as well?
 
Just found this thread. I built my NAS last year and figured it post it here. I do need to update my drives though to something larger now that prices are coming back down again.

The goal of my build, was to be affordable, low-power, and quiet. My Hardware Specs are Below:

* MoBo: ASUS C60M1-I
* CPU: Integrated AMD Fusion APU C-60 \ (1.0GHz, dual core)
* RAM: Kingston Technology HyperX Blu 8GB (2x4GB) 1333MHz DDR3 CL9
* Case: Bitfenix Prodigy - Arctic White
* Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts EA-380D Green 380 Watt 80 PLUS BRONZE
* HD: x4 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB in Raid-Z
* OS: FreeNAS 8.3.1 (Running off Sandisk4gb Jump Drive)

That motherboard is built for a home NAS since it has 6 Native SATA 6Gb/s ports. Not Counting the Drives I already owned, the whole package cost me **$196.27**

VTGqp6z.jpg

E5dfft2.jpg

tX9laRN.jpg

Wow, that's a cheap, excellent build. I wonder how much smaller you could get that build
 
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