Beelzebufo
Banned
Megas are activated in battles. It's a distinct difference.
Also, for what it's worth, cover Groudon resembles in-game XY Groudon more than RSE cover Groudon.
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Also, for what it's worth, cover Groudon resembles in-game XY Groudon more than RSE cover Groudon.
1) It could become a requirement to play online now. Just because it hasn't before, doesn't mean it never can.
2) They could do it like they have the past two generations, and not let you battle XY played with the new forms.
Winterfang
Banned
The dramatic part has water on it, I hope is tropical. Also please update the engine.
Aaronrules380
Member
Tate and Liza are even worse since they were even younger in RSE, which would have to be at least 6 years before B2/W2 by the timeline
ThatObviousUser
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B2W2 take place at the same time as X/Y? That's news to me.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Who is this?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
That could just be PR speaking to the kids that haven't played RS before. I remember that "new adventure" stuff being said in some HGSS material too.
Aaronrules380
Member
So are a few form changes like Meloetta,Aegislash and that one daruma pokemon
Umph
I like Kyogre's new glowing lines look more than Groudon's but I like Ruby's font better.
Winterfang
Banned
Those are modes or stances. There's a lot of ways for Pokemon to change in battle.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Sorry I forgot to mention that the twitter account belongs to Toshinobu Matsumiya, the main series scenario writer.
Aaronrules380
Member
They're considered forms in the game. Look at the pokedex, I'm pretty sure it lists them as formes
MaximumSpider
Banned
New adventure for people who haven't experience Hoenn yet?
The Broken Ska Record
Member
That's the glow-y bit I was talking about before.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Yeah he looks a lot different too.
I was just adding to what other people were saying.
Ivan el Trolazo
Banned
mm its a new world because of all the new pokemon and features...even if its the same story, which is a joke anyway
Winterfang
Banned
Even of it's form, it's not exactly a Mega evolution.
Also Groudon does look different. He has black teeth, yellow eyes, the lines are completely different if you pay close attention also.
Aaronrules380
Member
My point is that mega evo's are just a fancy name for a specific set of form changes that all follow the same rules. From a mechanistic standpoint the only thing that could be considered a difference is the limit
I guess. They are aware that there are plenty of returning fans as well though.
Speedwagon
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This. I believe they are Mega's, but with less extreme designs, which I like.
I think I like their designs with one exception: Groudon should really have black claws. They originally were the same color as its spikes and teeth and now they clash.
Considering those lines usually glow blue, that seems like a difference to me.
Beelzebufo
Banned
The claws are pointy.I don't see it.
Welp, that would be a blatant continuity error then to have mega rings if that's the case and they're remakes!
Aaronrules380
Member
They're only the same game if you don't care about the greatly changed and improved mechanics. If you're doing any multiplayer, or even just some post game single player stuff like Battle Frontier or Battle tower/subway/whatever the changes significantly alter how battles play out and which pokemon are that useful
Do like those games if not X/y and oras will not change your mind.
Winterfang
Banned
Yeah but I'll say forms are more drastic changes, some rearrange the stats so dramatically that it might as well be a different Pokemon.
Aaronrules380
Member
Again how so? Nothing in X and Y suggests mega rings were only discovered recently (and infact everything surrounding the tower where you get them suggests otherwise), and then you have stuff like the pokemon origins where they retconned mega stones into red blue. Just have some character get them after a trip to the sinnoh region and give them to the player like they did in the origin's anime. It's ridiculous to think mega evos won't be possible in the game at all
Burning Justice
the superior princess
The "Ω" on Groudon's arm and "α" on Kyogre's fin have to mean something, right? I think it's gotta be a Mega Evolution or a different form.
I understand there are subtle-to-significant changes, but I still felt like I had played the game before. I'm not that much of a hardcore RPG fan where I really appreciate those kids of changes.
I liked them all, but I just felt each pokemon game for a while didn't really add much to the experience to warrant another time around.
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Groudon's claws were always pointy.
What sort of changes are you looking for?
Aaronrules380
Member
I'd argue this is the case for mega evos as well to an extent. Stuff like Mega Mewtwo x is a pretty big change
The Broken Ska Record
Member
I originally said that outside of the glowing lines, the two versions look identical to me. With Groudon having a bit more lines on the torso and Kygore having a slightly different flipper design.
Aaronrules380
Member
Groudon's spikes and teeth are a completely different color
*raises hand*
Subtervotion
Member
You keep using that word...
Not to pick on you too much. Seriously though, they look similar.
Aaronrules380
Member
WrenchNinja
Member
so thats why they didnt shoehorn in cynthia
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Here.
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Groudon's claws were always pointy.
What sort of changes are you looking for?
I'm not really looking for changes as such. It's not like I expect Pokemon to be NOT pokemon or anything.
Just wondering if the game is just more of the same old thing it has always been.
Like I said, I'm not an RPG fan anymore, so just curious what people get out of these releases. I mean, it's not just a remake of an old game everybody liked. It's like the third or fourth remake in a series of remakes of games that seem all the same to me.
I mean every pokemon has the same story, the same game progression etc.
*shrug* That said, I'm pretty much like that for most RPGs though.
I would assume the design differences have more to do with updating their looks to keep up with how flashy the cover legendaries since them have been. What was wild back in 2003 is tame by today's standards.
I'd also assume Game Freak can conjure ways around continuity errors in the event that they care about explaining away game mechanics. The last time something big like this went backwards in time was pokemon eggs, which they completely ignored.
I'd also assume Game Freak can conjure ways around continuity errors in the event that they care about explaining away game mechanics. The last time something big like this went backwards in time was pokemon eggs, which they completely ignored.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Everything about XY suggests that mega rings are a recent invention. There also aren't mega rings in HGSS/DPPt, which take place afterwards. The anime doesn't count. The Sinnoh region doesn't have them years later, why would they have them now lol.
Winterfang
Banned
Some Mega look really identical to the main poke
I'll say the fact that they even have something different, should be proof enough.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Well, whatever. I'm not calling them Mega Evolutions. If they are considered Megas officially, then I will eat crow.
Aaronrules380
Member
X and Y takes place after HGSS and DPPt though. We even just saw a tweet from the story director confirming that. And no, XY suggests that they were a rare and not well studied thing. They explicitly state that when Sycamore was young he tried to get the mega ring himself but he called it quits because he didn't think he had what it took. And eggs were legitimately a new discovery between rbgy and gsc and yet Fire red and leaf green had them. That's a much bigger continuity error