Pokemon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire Remakes Announced for 3DS

I wish the distance between the first and second gym was the way the whole game was set up, with even more side stories and quests along the way. The gyms are always so bam bam champ its kind of dumb and takes away the value of earning a gym badge
Yeah I'd really like this out of ORAS, and also with whatever the third version or sequels are to XY. I thought it was great in X and Y, all that time and stuff to do between the first and second gym, since afterwards it was very straightforward.

I hope we get a difficulty selection too, selectable from the beginning. I don't imagine it would be too hard to implement.
 
I would assume the design differences have more to do with updating their looks to keep up with how flashy the cover legendaries since them have been. What was wild back in 2003 is tame by today's standards.
Lugia and Ho-Oh didn't have significant design changes, and considering Groudon and Kyogres' XY models match their original cover art, I don't think it would make sense to change their design now.

There are some Pokemon that had design changes from their original form (Blastoise cannon flaps, Zangoose's claw color, Jynx's color...), but I can't think of one that had a revamp this large.
 
Another thing to point out, but it's not like time travel didn't exist in the series since gold and silver. Or like previous gen remakes didn't alter the story and retcon events
 
Well, whatever. I'm not calling them Mega Evolutions. If they are considered Megas officially, then I will eat crow.

I'm not sure they will throw out the mega evolution element so quick. Why go back to form changes? Or are you suggesting they have the same base stats/abilities/etc?

On the flip side I think adding 100 base points to both Kyorge and Groudon might be over kill. I'm #teammega though. They are most certainly NOT identical at the very least. I hope we get more info at E3.
 
Alpha Sapphire looks way cooler, and Kyogre is the best legendary, but I have to go Omega Ruby for tradition's sake. I'll just have to trade for Kyogre.
 
. And eggs were legitimately a new discovery between rbgy and gsc and yet Fire red and leaf green had them. That's a much bigger continuity error
Firered LeafGreen had the eggs available AFTER the Pokemon League on Four Island.

Which is technically between the end of RBY and GSC. So there's no error here.
 
X and Y takes place after HGSS and DPPt though. We even just saw a tweet from the story director confirming that. And no, XY suggests that they were a rare and not well studied thing. They explicitly state that when Sycamore was young he tried to get the mega ring himself but he called it quits because he didn't think he had what it took. And eggs were legitimately a new discovery between rbgy and gsc and yet Fire red and leaf green had them. That's a much bigger continuity error
...Exactly, X and Y take place after DPPt, which is why it makes no sense for a character to drop off a ring from Sinnoh. ORAS take place before DPPt, so if there aren't mega rings in those games, there shouldn't be ones in ORAS.

Firered LeafGreen had the eggs available AFTER the Pokemon League on Four Island.

Which is technically between the end of RBY and GSC. So there's no error here.

And more importantly there's no plot about discovering eggs
Also this. It's a different situation really.
 
Firered LeafGreen had the eggs available AFTER the Pokemon League on Four Island.

Which is technically between the end of RBY and GSC. So there's no error here.
Pretty sure eggs were discovered pretty much at the beginning of gold and silver. Hence the whole big deal about getting it from Mr. Pokemon's house and all that
 
...Exactly, X and Y take place after DPPt, which is why it makes no sense for a character to drop off a ring from Sinnoh. ORAS take place before DPPt, so if there aren't mega rings in those games, there shouldn't be ones in ORAS.




Also this. It's a different situation really.
Again, in game text states that Sycamore tried to get a mega ring when he was young and the tower of evolution was built around the first mega evolution which all signs and texts point to having happened many,many years before the story
 
Lugia and Ho-Oh didn't have significant design changes, and considering Groudon and Kyogres' XY models match their original cover art, I don't think it would make sense to change their design now.

There are some Pokemon that had design changes from their original form (Blastoise cannon flaps, Zangoose's claw color, Jynx's color...), but I can't think of one that had a revamp this large.

Well, it's not like they'd change them ahead of time and give it away.

I won't say they can't be megas, not with Mewtwo running around, it just seems odd for the lights to be permanently on or off like that. Seems like the sort of thing that would kick in during an attack animation.

They'll probably retcon the orbs into mega stones instead, though.
 
I honestly just think they are making the covers look dynamic. *shrug*
You think they illustrated Groudon and Kyogre completely differently to make the covers look "dynamic"? After Lugia and Ho-Oh looked pretty much the same in Heartgold and Soulsilver?

They're at least different forms. Whether they're mega evolutions or not is a different story. They are not normal Groudon and Kyogre.
I'm not sure they will throw out the mega evolution element so quick. Why go back to form changes? Or are you suggesting they have the same base stats/abilities/etc?

On the flip side I think adding 100 base points to both Kyorge and Groudon might be over kill. I'm #teammega though. They are most certainly NOT identical at the very least. I hope we get more info at E3.
They added 100 base points to Mewtwo. I think adding 100 to Groudon and Kyogre isn't that much of a stretch (Although Mega Kyogre is the dumbest thing ever).
 
Again, in game text states that Sycamore tried to get a mega ring when he was young and the tower of evolution was built around the first mega evolution which all signs and texts point to having happened many,many years before the story
But mega rings still aren't readily available. If they were in ORAS, at least one character in DPPt would have one.

Also, before you keep talking about eggs, FRLG exist in different continuity from GSC, that's why you can't trade between the two.
 
Hell, they can even do what they did in the origins anime and have whoever gives the stones to the player not know their exact function and just know about the legends. Though honestly I don't think they care that much
 
You think they illustrated Groudon and Kyogre completely differently to make the covers look "dynamic"? After Lugia and Ho-Oh looked pretty much the same in Heartgold and Soulsilver?

Completely differently? Come on. And who's to say that's not true? We know nothing about the remakes other than they are on the 3DS.
 
But mega rings still aren't readily available. If they were in ORAS, at least one character in DPPt would have one.

Also, before you keep talking about eggs, FRLG exist in different continuity from GSC, that's why you can't trade between the two.
Except you were still discovering eggs for the first time in HGSS so that logic doesn't apply. And DPPt will be retconned with it anyways when their remake comes out. Do you honestly think they'll leave out their huge new gameplay element simply for continuity's sake? Because that is incredibly dumb
 
Hell, they can even do what they did in the origins anime and have whoever gives the stones to the player not know their exact function and just know about the legends. Though honestly I don't think they care that much
They could, but it would be a major continuity error, like I said.

Wait, so I'm confused. ORAS is confirmed to be taking place before DPPt?
If it's a direct remake, yes.

Except you were still discovering eggs for the first time in HGSS so that logic doesn't apply. And DPPt will be retconned with it anyways when their remake comes out. Do you honestly think they'll leave out their huge new gameplay element simply for continuity's sake? Because that is incredibly dumb
You obviously weren't discovering them for the first time though, they were in FRLG and RSE. Obviously it wasn't a worldwide new discovery in HGSS.
 
But mega rings still aren't readily available. If they were in ORAS, at least one character in DPPt would have one.

Also, before you keep talking about eggs, FRLG exist in different continuity from GSC, that's why you can't trade between the two.

The MC decides after seeing mega Groudon/Kyogre that the mega ring is too powerful and hides it sometime after the game.

A ridiculous hand wave-y explanation? Yeah, but I'd rather have that than not have mega evos at all.
 
They could, but it would be a major continuity error, like I said.


If it's a direct remake, yes.
ANd my point is that pokemon's continuity isn't exactly set in stone. It's subject to retcons and you're a fool if you don't think they'll change anything about the story between this game and the originals, let alone gameplay elements. DO you also think pokemon like clefairy and jigglypuff won't have the fairy type because that wasn't discovered yet in those games?
 
I'm guessing Sycamore and Steven Stone will be friends or something, and meeting them will get you the Mega Ring. Makes enough sense. The rings not being readily available doesn't contradict it much, since Steven Stone is loaded and loves stones, so he could have access to things like that.
 
ANd my point is that pokemon's continuity isn't exactly set in stone. It's subject to retcons and you're a fool if you don't think they'll change anything about the story between this game and the originals, let alone gameplay elements. DO you also think pokemon like clefairy and jigglypuff won't have the fairy type because that wasn't discovered yet in those games?
They shouldn't be. All of these problems would be resolved if ORAS were sequels rather than direct remakes. It's impossible to make direct remakes without completely throwing the continuity of all the games out the window, that's my point.
 
They could, but it would be a major continuity error, like I said.


If it's a direct remake, yes.


You obviously weren't discovering them for the first time though, they were in FRLG and RSE. Obviously it wasn't a worldwide new discovery in HGSS.
And you weren't discovering mega rings for the first time in XY. Why do you keep ignoring the tower of mastery and the Mega evo guru who was clearly part of a long line of users? The fact that there had been legends about it for years?
 
And you weren't discovering mega rings for the first time in XY. Why do you keep ignoring the tower of mastery and the Mega evo guru who was clearly part of a long line of users? The fact that there had been legends about it for years?
But it wasn't widespread before te events of XY, that's the point you're missing. It's a significant difference.
 
They shouldn't be. All of these problems would be resolved if ORAS were sequels rather than direct remakes. It's impossible to make direct remakes without completely throwing the continuity of all the games out the window, that's my point.

And my point is that gamefreak doesn't give a shit. If they did magnemite wouldn't have been steel type in fire red and leaf green. Stop trying to put some vague continuity stuff as a priority over gameplay in a series that never cared that much about continuity. It makes no sense
 
But it wasn't widespread before te events of XY, that's the point you're missing. It's a significant difference.
WHich is irrelevant since it wasn't even widespread during X and Y and it doesn't need to be widespread in the new remakes. Just say that Steven got those stones on a trip to Kalos. It makes perfect sense, especially since it fits in with stuff Steven is already known for
 
If it's a direct remake, yes.

Oh.

I don't believe it will be.

The current Pokemon Canon (which is silly to talk about, but it's a real thing) BEGINS with Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald/FireRed/LeafGreen, so to remake Ruby and Sapphire would mess up a whole lot of things timeline-wise. This mixed in with the fact that the press release and trailer keeps reiterating this is a brand new adventure makes me think this is more of an indirect sequel.

Same bosses, places, but totally revamped to the point where it's nearly unrecognizable.
 
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