Hollywood Reporter: Edgar Wright just left Ant-Man
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Then defend it with intelligence and actually have a discussion (which is what you and some are doing). but twice as many people in here are reducing to "haters v. undying faithful acolytes" and that's vacant
edit: just like this:
like, good for you that you're part of the...everyone that goes to every superhero blockbuster nowadays, and good for you that you think anything that can hold your attention for 150 minutes should be enjoyed "for what they [are]", I dunno man others like to discuss and have opinions
first of all, it's bullshit to even think the russos and gunn have total creative freedom. Come on. they're pleasing their bosses. now, with the russos them pleasing their bosses meant filming some action pretty decently (though the strengths of Cap2 are with the script, not the competent but unremarkable russos). and with Gunn it could mean that he gets to make a weird loud fun movie. But it's not like they're doing it independently. they're doing it because Feige and co. want them to.
And I'd love to hear exactly what happened, because from the last comment you seem to be saying you know what the exact differences were when everyone else in the world is mostly in the dark
Nah, male. But I don't think the caps distracts. also it's really easy to change the case of stuff.
Pent up frustration from the Marvel domination. A lot of people still salty from the crow Whedon served.
Will be interesting to see who takes over.
pieatorium
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Damn, he hooked me gud.
Any time someone who isnt Amirox makes a post that reads like an Amirox post you can be sure it's a parody.
AuthenticM
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They should get Shane Black to direct it. But if they did that, it would possibly delay his adaptation of Death Note.
But whom am I kidding; that movie is never coming out anyway.
But whom am I kidding; that movie is never coming out anyway.
Scientist Supreme!
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Thank you duckroll. This is exacty how I feel, after all this time and right there. Soul crushingI think this ongoing argument about whether its either Wright or Marvel in the right or in the wrong is really stupid. Personally, the massive disappointment I'm feeling now how little to do with whether I'm a Marvel Studio fanboy (I am) or whether I think that Edgar Wright is a good director (I do). Instead is it about how someone had the passion to spend a long time working on something, which I was interested in, and now that's all down the toilet.
The idea of a movie being made by a fresh new director who wasn't involved in the production, with a tight one year deadline, is an unattractive one. The possibility that someone within the pre-production crew is setting up to direct it could be a bit more interesting. But in the end it is still a loss for what could have been. I think in any creative industry, that loss is worth mourning for those who care about the work in question.
It's not about Marvel being a good guy or bad guy, it's not about Wright backing out or being chased out. It's about being sad that a long promised project is now lost at sea. The story behind this will no doubt come out some day, and it will be interesting to discuss it and we can point fingers then and use hindsight to debate whether it was good for business, good for creativity, or whatever. That day is not today imo.
crimsonspider89
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Total creative freedom can be a bad thing though.
They were given control of how the movie looked and sounded.
I am just saying Marvel was 100% behind Wright from the getgo to the point of they changed who was originally in the Avengers.
Jimmy King
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Well this most definitely sucks. I do not envy the director who is going to inherit this project.
But you'd probably ban a junior for talking in all caps all the time, right? Film Critic Hulk gets brought up a lot on here, for better or worse, and the all-caps thing is really obnoxious...especially when reeling from the news that Edgar Wright is ditching Ant-Man.
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The word from people on the crew is Wright got booted for being REALLY behind schedule and being ineffective at righting the ship and getting it back on track. Production has been bleeding money for a month and Marvel got fed up with him and they lost their confidence in his ability to manage a production of this size.
From the thread about this on reddit. Grain of salt of course, but it's plausible.
FunkyPajamas
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Nah, the "(I mean, maybe he was crying because I poked him in the eye..." in the end gives it away so I'd say it's a 7/10. Could have been a full 10/10 without that line, easily.
Well I haven't seen Cap 2 but from the rest of their movies, I'd argue only the first Iron Man and Avengers were good. If they were delivering that quality consistently, it'd be something but the rest of their movies are about as mediocre or shitty as most Transformers movies. Granted these things tend to be subjective, but it's the same shit with a different coat of paint.
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AuthenticM
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Only with a bad director. History tought us that, as a general rule, producer interferance is what harms the quality of movies. For starters, just look at John Woo's early Hollywood movies, and then compare it to Face/Off, in which he was given complete or almost complete creative control.
Liquidsnake
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In my personal opinion, I would ask Favereau
George Oscar Bluth II
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Despite a director supposedly being announced "shortly," sources have informed the folks at Variety that "Marvel is zeroing in on a new director, but is not yet in negotiations with one." Also, an hour before news broke that Edgar Wright was leaving Ant-Man, Patrick Wilson, who's rumored to play a younger Hank Pym in the film, tweeted that the "big news" was coming. Now that it's out, Wilson has further commented that: "Yes yes... this big news was Edgar's departure and now not knowing the fate of the film. Big to ME anyway."
Link to Variety: http://variety.com/2014/film/news/edgar-wright-exits-marvels-ant-man-as-director-1201190458/
Link to Patrick Wilson: https://twitter.com/patrickwilson73/statuses/469948393989480448
Link to Variety: http://variety.com/2014/film/news/edgar-wright-exits-marvels-ant-man-as-director-1201190458/
Link to Patrick Wilson: https://twitter.com/patrickwilson73/statuses/469948393989480448
crimsonspider89
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It can backfire on the other hand as well. Some people are geniuses in creative department but can't pace worth a damn.
Or do something stupid like the Mandarin reveal at the end of IM3 that you had to go and fix afterwards.
You don't want complete freedom but you don't want to stifle or interfere too much.
That's the only really explanation that really make sense to be honest. This has been Wright's film for years now and they've allowed him to do whatever the hell he wants with it. Marvel are really, really strict about keeping the budget tight and the filming on schedule though.
Secret Fawful
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Damn. Might as well cancel the fucking thing now, but I guess it depends on who the replacement is.
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Discotheque
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Well....marvel sucks. I'm back on the no hope train.
Seriously. I'm in obi wan mode right now. You could have been the chosen one
God damn Feige
This means the ONLY film from this studio with the chance of being above average in the future is cap 3
pieatorium
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THey've made a few mediocre films but at least those had a plot and action scenes that were followable, lumping them in with tranformers is the kind of hyperbole that the thread doesn't really need.
Also you should watch cap 2, it's easily top 3 mcu films and I would go as far as to put it at number 1.
crimsonspider89
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Yeah that makes the most sense.
Pushing the film from phase 1 to 3 doesn't really inspire confidence in Wright, especially if he was still behind schedule.
They waited 8 years for him to still be behind schedule. Amazing if true.
peanutbutterlatte
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This is genuinely depressing. Was so, so looking forward to this. If this is Marvel's doing, they just kicked out a director who genuinely hasn't had a bad film yet.
I'll still go see this, but my enthusiasm has dropped by so much. Wright's truly prolific, better than any director they've employed thus far at what they wanted to do (sorry Branagh and Whedon)
I'll still go see this, but my enthusiasm has dropped by so much. Wright's truly prolific, better than any director they've employed thus far at what they wanted to do (sorry Branagh and Whedon)
when does the trolling end i cant take this shit
Delta Assault
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Film Critic Hulk was the extension of the male blogger fantasy. So its like if Im going to be this geek who becomes the Hulk then lets create a giant all-caps blogger that only the Hulk could tolerate.
Ughhhhhh.....
"Marvel is zeroing in on a new filmmaker, but is not yet in negotiations with one yet, Variety can confirm."
Sounds like.... we're getting a director for hire. Yup.
Like most things i blame Mark Millar. We could probably play Six degrees of Millar and lay the blame at his door for this as well because he's such a twat.
Hot Coldman
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My question now is what the fuck does he do next? Hopefully not that bloody Night Stalker film with Depp.
Fuck it, do another Cornetto film.
Fuck it, do another Cornetto film.
Nah, they've been doing just fine without him.
Mr.Wreckless
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Cap 2 is at least as good as Avengers, most think it's better.
are you still mad about how much the Winter Soldier made? those 15 minutes have paid off...
Ughhhhhh.....
"Marvel is zeroing in on a new filmmaker, but is not yet in negotiations with one yet, Variety can confirm."
Sounds like.... we're getting a director for hire. Yup.
unbearable sadness
George Oscar Bluth II
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BuzzFeed claims that Ant-Man co-writer Joe Cornish has NOT been approached as Wright's replacement, despite popular belief.
Link: http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/edgar-wright-no-longer-directing-ant-man
Link: http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/edgar-wright-no-longer-directing-ant-man
Professor Beef
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They delayed it for 8 years already.
Jimmy King
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Not every situation turns out like Apocalypse Now. The whole era of New Hollywood ended because, among other things, the artists weren't accountable to anyone and weren't turning out quality movies. That last part is relative, of course.
Funny story: the thing that brought me to the tipping point was his twitter rant on all the She-Hulk business that kept coming up in my feed =P. I assume that's what you're referencing.
Anyway...enough of all that. I wasn't actually proposing a ban, lol.
That's a shame. He's probably the only director working that could sort of match Wright's style.
Hot Coldman
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It isn't popular belief, we're just all praying Feige does the right thing
If nothing else, Wright seems to be the biggest obstacle to the progression of the MCU.
the problem with your argument is literally every single Edgar Wright movie is far and away better than anything Marvel Studios has churned out. it was a passion project and now its being fast tracked without a director for a release date just a year away? yeah, that's going to work out well.
so yeah, I'd say the chances of being good just took a nosedive.
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