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Anyone have tips or advice on maintaining or retaining a reasonable mental state while doing night shift work? Maybe people do some night work themselves, or are students, or just yer night owl types. Am going back onto nights for three weeks and am sort of dreading it. Been doing them as part of a rotating roster for a long while now but if anything am getting worse at handling them. It's not as much about the hours while at work but about surviving and thriving during off hours and on off days. Apart from some negligibly pleasant hyper sensitivity that comes with lack of sleep, basically end up spending three weeks (or more) in a state of lowered mood, lethargy, joylessness, and am more of a senseless jackass than usual.

Strategies that I do, uh, employ:

-not reading overnight at work on down time. that's a killer.

-tea, miso soup, coffee, water scattered throughout

-lozenges for sore throat. always get a sore throat.

-try to go outside and walk at least once each day (length of time outside isn't something i think about here, it's more dragging my self out there for however long)

Just thought i'd throw it out there in case anyone had some experience with this kind of thing, even sleep hygiene/health patterns in general really.

I'm going to be honest with you: night shift slowly kills. Having a rotating schedule, as I've had for the past two years (going from 6am-2pm, 2pm-10pm, then 10pm-6am) was quite possibly the most difficult thing I've done in my entire life, and that includes spending time in Afghanistan. What I suggest you do is along the lines of what Smiley said: my co-workers who really suffered the most were those who only screwed around and watched YouTube every night -- mind you, there was nothing to do. I'd honestly suggest reversing your first tactic and start reading, or else working towards something. We naturally like to feel productive; I never felt productive just being a warm body. So even finishing a book was, well, something.

I did coursework during the night and eventually got a paper accepted for publication, mostly because I didn't have anything else to do. Some nights, I watched movies. Some nights I dozed off in my chair unintentionally. And every day following a night shift -- like when I was transitioning back from nights to days -- I was completely worthless. So, here's my list of suggestions:

(1) Advocate, as best you can, for staying on a shift for a long period of time. For a while, we worked 6am-6pm for 2 weeks, then shifted to 6pm-6am for 2 weeks. The constant switching ruined my body.

(2) Make sure to exercise as much as you can. If there's a way to exercise at work (because you're going to be too tired if you're working nights; it's almost guaranteed), do so. Even if it's as simple as a pull-up bar attached to the door or going for regular, long walks listening to podcasts/music at night, do anything you can.

(3) Tell people you know and regularly interact with that you're going through a rough patch. Not understanding how shift work affected me ruined friendships. I could articulate it much better now, and people are understanding if you give them cause, but springing that kind of lethargy and semi-depression on them without warning is sometimes jarring. Plus, people have the tendency to think that, "Oh, you worked for 3 nights and have a day off? That's easier than the schedule I work! Why are you complaining?" (These people have never done shift work.) Education helps.

(4) Really focus on your diet as best you can. If you can prepare your food, that's the best option, but if you're picking up fast food (because nothing else is open, naturally) for your night shift, you're going to feel even worse than usual.

(5) This goes without saying, but: try to seek a way out. I realize it's far easier to say that than doing it, but I wholeheartedly believe now that going against the body's natural circadian rhythm is something only few people can do successfully. I wish you the best of luck. Seriously.
 
You know me, I also suffer from chronic incurable health issues. Not as much pain usually, but you get it. We talk often. You're a good person. There's a reason I talk to you and it's not because I'm a masochist, but because I actually enjoy it. You don't have to believe me, but it's true.

And I'm not gonna pretend you're ever suddenly gonna wake up one day and feel great. Because that won't happen. But I know that you also won't forever wake up feeling like this. Hopeless. There is always hope, once you realize for yourself that you have to set the bar lower than others. And that's ridiculously hard to accept and obviously quite painful.

People don't realize how goddamned lucky they are. To have your health? To have a working body? It's one of the biggest gifts on this planet. It gives you every chance in the world. To build relationships, friendships and romantic. To have children if you want them. To work your ass off in a career that means something to you (or a dead-end one, I guess but whatever).

I just... sit here and waste away the days in agony, watching other people go about their lives. When they talk about their spouses or their dumb fucking dogs or their children, I get so angry and I feel so much despair and grief. I shouldn't compare myself to other people, it's a completely different situation but I wasn't given any chances at all.

This obviously isn't directed at you, Smiley but at anyone else lucky enough to have their physical health. Don't take it for granted. Never take it for granted.
 
Finished my test today. I realized I did 3 questions wrong; 2 being the fact that I didn't read the question properly and the other I didn't have enough time. 45 minutes for 9 questions? Seriously? This is worth 25% of my grade and I just finished an assignment that took a couple of days and it's only worth 5%. I guess Ill keep trucking on doing more practice but man this marking scheme for my statistics course is unfair...
 
That feel when you are going through a terrible sickness and you have no families and friends to comfort you

I responded to your post on May 12th. Here's what I wrote. I saw you had a blood transfusion so Im not sure how much it applies but hopefully it helps.

Crohns disease, on Trillium, was anemic at one point, currently on Remicade (for 13 years come November). Why aren't you filling out the forms? I was on Imuran for a time and it never worked. Now, Im on Remicade and I'm pretty much 100% healthy.

You can fill out the forms, and get on Remicade for (relatively) cheap. I would listen to your doctor that if this is what he recommends, this is something you need to do if yo. IMO, you will not be able to tackle your mental health if you don't get physically better.

So I guess the question is why aren't you filling out the forms? What is the downside you're experiencing?
 
A lot of people seem to be expressing their hopelessness more than usual.
I had some time to think about this, and I think while there is no obvious solution, and it's a sad fact that some people have way more setbacks then others in life and may have to struggle more than others to even barely achieve the same things... please also remember that you are human and are also allowed to experience joy or satisfaction or pride from the things you do manage to achieve.

It's inevitable that we compare ourselves to one another and feel there is a great injustice in the world--and don't get me wrong, there are definitely injustices out there--but if you can remind yourself about the things you still want to do or see or discover, remind yourself that it's okay to exist, and remind yourself that good people exist in the nebulous "out there" who are connected to you because we're all connected as humans, it will help counter the paralyzing waves of illness and doubt.
You may have to be a little more vigilant than most because like anything, it takes practice to manoeuvre through the unuseful thoughts and pain (both physical and mental), but if you are alive, then you are still able to access hope inside of you and around you.

If you still have drives and abilities intact, then use what you can to keep building and doing what you want. They still work at least a little. Juice it for what it's worth and relish in it, be amused by it, frame it as something to build on or feel contentment with instead of letting it default to dismissal or failure. My example right now was trying to get over my social anxiety to say hi to an online friend. I said hi and never told her who I was and practically ran away. There's lots of things I can be feeling, including that nagging feeling of being a loser, but I try to remind myself that it's also amusing. "Boy, that was foolish but it's funny. Maybe next time I can do one step better." There will always be more, there will always be epilogue for you.

We all want things that may or may not be realistically achievable for us, but try not to think of it in a failure/success dichotomy in that it labels you as a person as a failure/success. The world is not black and white. It has a spectrum between seeing, doing, learning, experiencing, and you can still enjoy it and even be a little smug and self-satisfied (it's okay to be!) when you get to, no matter how far or close to your "if I had this then I can finally be happy"-endgoal you may be. Allow yourself to be happy despite it and remind yourself when you are enjoying yourself without dismissing it as trivial or unimportant or a fluke.

And you know what, enjoy fluking too!
(I was actually ready to go see that online friend again last weekend at a convention, and was trying to get psyched into it, but then she decided to cancel her plans and leave town, so I missed my opportunity--especially since I didn't tell her I would come so she wouldn't leave. Perhaps a kind of failure on my part again? Or... What a lucky fluke, which means I didn't have to work up the courage or spend the admission money~! So maybe next time.. lol And the saga continues.)
 
Still curled up in bed under my blanket instead of at work. It's one of those days. Had to call in sick. -sigh-
 
Man i can barely leave my apartment anymore other than for work. Im getting shitfaced drunk tonight. So fucking uncomfortable in public, every time i have to endure trying to act natural around all the happy people i want to explode
 
So I had my first panic attack in months. It wasn't as severe as they used to be, but it caused me to miss my psychologist appointment. Kind of just retreated and tried to fall asleep. This whole week I've been feeling sick as well.

I'm thinking it's all tied to a party I hope to go tomorrow. My friend is having some people over for his birthday and I'm nervous as Hell. I did some practice runs by going to his house during the month - first time I've been able to visit friends since September - and that ran smoothly. But all I can think about is when I tried going to his party last year and the anxiety I felt driving to his house. I didn't end up going to the party, hopefully things will be different this year. I'm just afraid of a possible panic attack while I'm (on my way) there :(.
 
Hey all -- long time lurker of the thread here and I can definitely connect with a lot of you guys.

Question for anyone really -- Are there any good resources for finding a solid therapist in local areas other than just randomly searching on the web? Based off of some recent events, I think it finally broke me and I'm at an all or nothing point in life where I know I need to do this and go to one otherwise it'll be too late to make changes in my life, but I need to find someone I'll feel comfortable with. My parents are going to come down (they live 12 hours away) and take me as I told them I'd basically have to have a gun pointed at my head in order for me to go and refuse to go on my own.

I have a list that I found online (I live in the DFW area if anyone knows of any good ones around here), but before I make the final commitment to go, I was hoping to get some solid advice on finding a suitable one.
 
There has been a lot of negativity in this thread lately so just skip this comment if you are sick of all the whining. Thanks Prax and Bagels for bringing some positivity!


I been criticized on GAF lately for being really needy and they couldn't be more right. Im so dependent on others to validate/ accept/ acknowledge me to feel any pleasure. It makes sense since I don't accept myself. I always imagine others commenting on what I do. Need to let go off that damn ego and value acknowledgment from myself more than other peoples. Now I'm seeking acknowledgement from you guys, so pathetic.

Prax I really liked your post and everyone have a great day!
 
Hey all -- long time lurker of the thread here and I can definitely connect with a lot of you guys.

Question for anyone really -- Are there any good resources for finding a solid therapist in local areas other than just randomly searching on the web? Based off of some recent events, I think it finally broke me and I'm at an all or nothing point in life where I know I need to do this and go to one otherwise it'll be too late to make changes in my life, but I need to find someone I'll feel comfortable with. My parents are going to come down (they live 12 hours away) and take me as I told them I'd basically have to have a gun pointed at my head in order for me to go and refuse to go on my own.

I have a list that I found online (I live in the DFW area if anyone knows of any good ones around here), but before I make the final commitment to go, I was hoping to get some solid advice on finding a suitable one.

I'd get a rec from your regular doctor. You're getting a rec from someone you trust and there's an implication that it will be easier or more convenient for them to work together if they need to.
 
My stomach is in knots, and I'm shaking... It seems like it's got to a point where I can either be mentally ill without her, or physically ill with her.

Good times.
 
Hermii just want to say - you go from praising positivity, and reflecting on yourself, straight to the 'pathetic' tag. It's not pathetic to seek acknowledgement from others. We all do it right? There are plenty of avenues for criticism, and if you feel criticized on GAF, and are dwelling on that, then maybe it's time for a break? There are plenty of places for reflection, and some of the healthiest ones are probably away from the computer. Can you talk to someone in person and start to unpack some of this stuff? The connectedness found in (offline) interactions can't be undervalued. Wish you all the best!!! Hope I'm not misinterpreting anything there.

Too many black lines, so hope it's alright to remove those spoiler tags. We definitely all seek acknowledgement/feedback in some form. And it can genuinely be helpful to get it, as only having your own thoughts to rely on is rather limiting. So having a completely fresh perspective from someone else can be refreshing. But certainly not always, as some people will have a completely different mindset to your own, and may be dismissive. Whilst the next person may be very encouraging. We're all just very different, and not always accurate, so it's important not to take someone's word as absolute truth. It is something I've not quite perfected myself, but I'm getter better at it.

+1 for more offline activities as well. I think even with positive online interactions, there is a limit to how fulfilling they can be. For me personally, the face-to-face interactions are definitely the most satisfying. (Too bad that it happens to be the most challenging one of the bunch!) It is what made me interested in looking into groups, which I'll be finding out about next week. Which I hope will be a positive endeavour.
 
So things were pretty successful at the party. I just got back, only stayed for three hours - the first of which I spent panicking. Glad I was able to calm down and stay.
 
Hey, mental health GAF, I've been lurking this thread for a couple of weeks now and I just wanted to say hi. I have some sort of mental health-related issues and rantings I want to sort of rant about and get off my chest, would it be fine if I posted them here?
 
I've been cleaning the house this week and I found my brother's notebooks and papers... And his suicide note. It's not very fun to read.
 
Hey guys, I am going to take the time to read the OP after posting this, but I am going to make a quick post because I want to reach out. I think I need help pretty badly. I'm unhappy a lot of the time, to the point that feeling genuinely happy is a shocking and novel experience. I took a test in the book "Feeling Good" today, and it said I was severely depressed and should seek help immediately.

So then I stumbled onto this thread and I'm pretty stoked about it.

I have problems with emotional eating and social anxiety and they are linked together pretty closely. I lost a bunch of weight between ages 20-24 but over the past year my weight has slowly started coming back after moving again and being around old friends and family again. I feel like for whatever reason this has made me feel even more depressed and trapped. Though, even when I was in the last city on my own, I still had a ton of problems with social anxiety at work and I had to get drunk to relax around friends outside of work.

I quit my job about six months ago because of my unstable mental state. I would be fine for a week and do great, and then the next week I couldn't get myself to focus or work and I would procrastinate to extreme degrees, and torment myself mentally constantly. Ever since I've been trying to pull myself together, but all that has resulted is me falling deeper into a mental rut and bad habits and mental self-abuse.

I use alcohol as a way to combat social anxiety, and food as a way to suppress emotions.

All I want is to lead a normal life. I don't even care whether I am super happy or not. I just want to get rid of my social anxiety so I can have a normal career and friendships.
 
I'm so mad right now, I just checked my final grade for my C programming class and I failed. It's funny because I started off well and I failed on the final. Not only that but on my last two homework, I got 11.25%. That's what happens when I'm overconfident on doing alright for this class despite not doing so much on my homework. I'm so disappointed in myself right now. Sigh, I'm so stupid.

My bad for being a nuisance to everyone since I've been ranting constantly so I can get stuff like this off my chest. Also, I have no one to talk to about my problems.
 
I actually managed to go to that yoga class I chickened out of going to last week. It went very well, the teacher was very friendly and so were the class mates (again). Part of the workout involved teaming up with another member and my anxiety spiked here, but thankfully the woman next to me was happy to pair up and she smiled and talked to me as if she was enjoying herself. I'm definitely beginning to feel more comfortable around other people. I have noticed that my frustration is shifting from being unable to go to social events towards being unable to start conversations with people at those social events (though I still have anxiety about going to pubs and clubs alone). This is proof, I think, that I'm making progress.

On the other hand, I texted an ex-work colleague yesterday to ask if she is up for playing sports again next week like we did this week. She still hasn't replied. I'm a bit paranoid that I came across as too boring last week and she has lost interest in me as a friend - I still have a tendency of being too quiet.
 
Hey, mental health GAF, I've been lurking this thread for a couple of weeks now and I just wanted to say hi. I have some sort of mental health-related issues and rantings I want to sort of rant about and get off my chest, would it be fine if I posted them here?

Seems a bit unrelated to this thread, I wouldn't bother..
Of course it's alright!

It is something that people already use this thread for, pretty regularly. I will say that if you wanted some insight, or advice for your issues, then asking specific questions definitely helps with that. As trying to reply to a long rant, without any real direction can be hard to tackle, and to know what to say exactly. But some do post just to get it off their chest, and nothing else. Which is perfectly fine as well.
 
Hey guys, I am going to take the time to read the OP after posting this, but I am going to make a quick post because I want to reach out. I think I need help pretty badly. I'm unhappy a lot of the time, to the point that feeling genuinely happy is a shocking and novel experience. I took a test in the book "Feeling Good" today, and it said I was severely depressed and should seek help immediately.

So then I stumbled onto this thread and I'm pretty stoked about it.

I have problems with emotional eating and social anxiety and they are linked together pretty closely. I lost a bunch of weight between ages 20-24 but over the past year my weight has slowly started coming back after moving again and being around old friends and family again. I feel like for whatever reason this has made me feel even more depressed and trapped. Though, even when I was in the last city on my own, I still had a ton of problems with social anxiety at work and I had to get drunk to relax around friends outside of work.

I quit my job about six months ago because of my unstable mental state. I would be fine for a week and do great, and then the next week I couldn't get myself to focus or work and I would procrastinate to extreme degrees, and torment myself mentally constantly. Ever since I've been trying to pull myself together, but all that has resulted is me falling deeper into a mental rut and bad habits and mental self-abuse.

I use alcohol as a way to combat social anxiety, and food as a way to suppress emotions.

All I want is to lead a normal life. I don't even care whether I am super happy or not. I just want to get rid of my social anxiety so I can have a normal career and friendships.

I might be asking an obvious question here, but have you talked to a doctor about this?
 
Three years ago this August, I started working as an intern at a small marketing agency that had about 6 employees. Another guy around my age started on the same day.

My internship ended after two months, but he got hired on.

I happened to check out the company website today just to see what they're up to, and not only has the company grown to 40+ employees, but the guy who started on the same day as me as an intern is now the COO.

Talk about a fucking gut punch.

Meanwhile, I just quit my job a few months ago to start a freelance career, and I'm failing pretty miserably at it.

My head is swimming right now. This sucks.
 
I'm just venting, so I don't expect any reply, but I really need to get it off my mind and this is the only place I can do it in relative anonymity while still easing the burden the revelation poses.

From an early age, I had suspicions that my parents investigated any activity I did, from speaking to teachers regularly about what I said and/or did in class, to the parents of friends who they had investigated to find out precisely what I said, to relatives who I spoke to so they could glean every bit of insight into what I was doing to later manipulate, to any other miscellaneous individual who I came into contact with. In adition, they had a rather corrosive affect on anything I enjoyed, be it swimming (where my father always demanded on accompanying me, where he always ended up shouting at me and/or telling me I was shit at it) to a friend I brought home (who they interrogated, and then integrated themselves in all activites which made the person who had been my friend dislike me due to their obsessive behaviour destroying the day). To remedy this, I resolved never to mingle that which I liked, be it friends or hobbies, with them, in order to avoid their corrosive affect on all that made me feel decent about myself, by refusing to speak to relatives to any extent, refusing to bring home friends while they were present, and refusing to partake in any activities I enjoyed until thy were gone. This is, of course, overlooking their manipulative, dehumanising, insulting, belittling, narcissistic, spiteful, and obsessive nature, and my father's alcoholism and penchant for outbursts of screaming.

There was quite a large length of time where I strongly believed there were cameras scattered amongst my house so that they could observe my behaviour while I was away, and manipulate me more successfully when they returned. This was, clearly, insane, and paranoid. I knew full well that it was, but even so in the moments that I believed this I was gripped with a sense of certainty as it conflicted with my rational acknowledgement that it was crazy. I had thought, perhaps, that maybe they didn't contact relatives to find out what I was doing, perhaps they didn't contact friends' parents in the past, that they didn't contact teachers or the school facilty, perhaps that was crazy too? Never the less I never reigned myself in, I wasn't so doubtful that they were indeed that controlling so as to break my personal vow of silence and detachment and to preserve what little privacy, and happiness I had.

A few weeks ago, I discovered that they indeed searched my room regularly and most of that happiness diminished, particularly as the circumstances surrounding that carried grave consequences for my future and deeply impacted the stability of my living situation, but while things had remained rather static in a practical sense since then, I had slightly come to terms with the situation. And then today, while with my aunt, she stated bluntly that my mother had always contacted her as soon as I left so that my mother would try and loosen crumbs of information from her by joking about how she'd be contacted when I left and my mother would interrogate her as she (my aunt; one of three people I trust that aren't friends, my others being my grandmother and former child-minder, neither of who I trust not to reveal everything to my parents) remained tight-lipped. All of a sudden I feel like every potential piece of supposed paranoia I'd had regarding them has vanished. Every single feeling of loathing, scathing hatred of them which I'd had suppressed since the revelation of them searching my items obsessively has surfaced once more. Every possibility I once considered delusional has now been rendered as a distinctly realistic possibility. I had thought that escaping their grasp was a possibility as I leave for college and cease all communication, but that miniscule hope has been squashed; given how obsessive they are, given how distrustful and manipulative I can now plainly see, with confirmation to all but the most insane belief, that they are, it's clear that they'll never retract their tendrils. I don't, as already stated, expect a reply, there's not really any escape from the situation at the moment, The only thing I really have is a fierce hatred of them which I really must get out of my head as quickly as possible, hence this post, as it really is a bad idea to let it fester.
 
I'm glad you guys appreciate the occasional positivity injection. lol
I think it's important to remember that even though some of our issues are really messed up and complex and hard to solve, there are still people rooting for us and we also can root for ourselves.

A new thing some of you might find interesting:

I was discussing with my cousin the other day about how we both had different modes when it comes to what gives us happiness, despite the similarities we both have (both of us have social anxiety and motivation issues, but both of us are also artsy types).
For me, I am achievement-based. I am happiest when I feel like I've accomplished something. This is easiest for me when it comes to art. I make something, it becomes real, and then I have a marker for having gotten something done (yay!). I feel happier. This also means I like getting good grades, obtaining degrees/certifications, etc. So when I don't "get" to a level I want or have not created art for a while, I feel useless and more down on myself. I don't necessarily need recognition or praise to be satisfied as long as that piece of art or piece of paper proves I did it. lol So it's important for me to find ways to keep motivated to DO something.
For her, it's the opposite (and kind of hard for me to understand, but I'm slowly getting it): she only really accomplishes things when her mood/emotions are in a good place. So when her moods are down, she will likely not be able to get art or anything thought of as productive above basic needs done. Being able to make a nice art thing doesn't do anything for her really (unless she gets external validation like praise/recognition for it). She's a good artist, but merely achieving good results doesn't activate her satisfaction. So for her, her happiness is more dependent on her general mood and probably the mood of others around her. So for her, it's important she surrounds herself with good things and good people in order to get her in a mode where she does more than just drift through life.

So for her, it doesn't help if I keep telling her to "just draw something, even if it's nasty looking, because I feel good when I do it!!!" because accomplishment doesn't satiate her. And for me, it's not helpful to tell me to "go socialize, and have a fun time, that always makes me happy" because I think about what I could have achieved instead and my "fun time" is actually more alone time lol. There is a weakness to each mode too, where I will neglect people and "trivial" things more likely, while she will neglect pursuing long-term goals because her mood is "meh" at the moment.
It's only after we feel that sense of satisfaction that we are able to nourish the other half of the puzzle to balance it out.

So I think it's important to figure out what drives your satisfaction. Do you need to have achieved something and have it concrete in front of you? Maybe those things don't matter and you just want to feel at peace first? Once you solve that and can do little things to achieve that sense of satisfaction, you can use it as a stepping stone to motivate yourself into accomplishing things in the other realms that you kind of take for granted or mean not so much to you.
It's all important (to achieve actual balance in your life), but depending on your mode of how you achieve that sense of satisfaction, you might need to reshuffle the steps you are always being told to take!


Too many black lines, so hope it's alright to remove those spoiler tags. We definitely all seek acknowledgement/feedback in some form. And it can genuinely be helpful to get it, as only having your own thoughts to rely on is rather limiting. So having a completely fresh perspective from someone else can be refreshing. But certainly not always, as some people will have a completely different mindset to your own, and may be dismissive. Whilst the next person may be very encouraging. We're all just very different, and not always accurate, so it's important not to take someone's word as absolute truth. It is something I've not quite perfected myself, but I'm getter better at it.

+1 for more offline activities as well. I think even with positive online interactions, there is a limit to how fulfilling they can be. For me personally, the face-to-face interactions are definitely the most satisfying. (Too bad that it happens to be the most challenging one of the bunch!) It is what made me interested in looking into groups, which I'll be finding out about next week. Which I hope will be a positive endeavour.
Yeah, I agree that it's normal to seek acknowledgement or validation. The main problem is after seeking it, when a person in a bad state of mind immediately dismisses it as "lies" or "naive pity" or they counter everything with their own negativity. It's tricky for everyone to figure out a good balance to get at the "truth", but I think a good rule is to choose the support and statements that help build you or give you positive direction (especially if they are from people you trust or respect!).

The thing with online interactions is that they are very easy to dismiss as "not real". That's a psychological barrier for most people, so online interactions won't usually be able to satisfy their social needs. The time lag and maybe lack of physicality also plays into that. But it's still really good that it exists for social hermits such as me. Kind of gives me a practice area to say things and meet new people with less commitment. lol

Sounds great that you are looking into groups though, and I think that positive attitude about it will get you far! Good luck with that and I hope you find fun people and activities to do! What kind of groups are you looking at in general?
So things were pretty successful at the party. I just got back, only stayed for three hours - the first of which I spent panicking. Glad I was able to calm down and stay.
That is good news to hear! I myself rarely go to parties because I'm afraid of things getting awkward and me just getting too bored.
I think the fact that you managed to get past the anxiety and have a good time afterwards is great, and also reminds your brain to be more relaxed next time. Looking forward to more parties in the future?

Hey, mental health GAF, I've been lurking this thread for a couple of weeks now and I just wanted to say hi. I have some sort of mental health-related issues and rantings I want to sort of rant about and get off my chest, would it be fine if I posted them here?
Hi! And yes. This thread is pretty open for ranting as well if you need to just vent.
However, if you expect a response, like Colin said, it's best to give potential responders questions to answer, or maybe say what particular area is giving you the most concern.

So i got 27/40 on that big test. Not too bad. 45 min for 9 questions was really unfair though.
I am sure a lot of the class felt the same about how unfair that was, but you passed!
Go do your homework. Stop procrastinating, especially if you think it will take you more than 10 hours to complete. lol Plan your time wisely! Just know that if you don't reign in on procrastination, it will only get worse.
I didn't get really REALLY bad with procrastination until the end of my university career, and it never negatively affected me TOO much, but man when it did... It just became a laughing/crying matter because then I also had to send emails to my prof, and extra interaction with authority figures was never a thing I wanted to do. You don't need to let it get to that point. Try to reset your sense of procrastination meter earlier by 5-6 hours. lol

I've been cleaning the house this week and I found my brother's notebooks and papers... And his suicide note. It's not very fun to read.
That sounds really rough.
Did you ever look at them before? I'm just hoping it helped bring some closure for you and your family.

Hey guys, I am going to take the time to read the OP after posting this, but I am going to make a quick post because I want to reach out. I think I need help pretty badly. I'm unhappy a lot of the time, to the point that feeling genuinely happy is a shocking and novel experience. I took a test in the book "Feeling Good" today, and it said I was severely depressed and should seek help immediately.

So then I stumbled onto this thread and I'm pretty stoked about it.

I have problems with emotional eating and social anxiety and they are linked together pretty closely. I lost a bunch of weight between ages 20-24 but over the past year my weight has slowly started coming back after moving again and being around old friends and family again. I feel like for whatever reason this has made me feel even more depressed and trapped. Though, even when I was in the last city on my own, I still had a ton of problems with social anxiety at work and I had to get drunk to relax around friends outside of work.

I quit my job about six months ago because of my unstable mental state. I would be fine for a week and do great, and then the next week I couldn't get myself to focus or work and I would procrastinate to extreme degrees, and torment myself mentally constantly. Ever since I've been trying to pull myself together, but all that has resulted is me falling deeper into a mental rut and bad habits and mental self-abuse.

I use alcohol as a way to combat social anxiety, and food as a way to suppress emotions.

All I want is to lead a normal life. I don't even care whether I am super happy or not. I just want to get rid of my social anxiety so I can have a normal career and friendships.
Really glad you are stoked about finding this topic. Please remember though that while we can offer some support and a reminder that you're not alone, we can't substitute for real professional help. So I'd try to get in contact with your GP and try to get a referral for some therapy if you feel you're going toward a downward spiral. They are more prepared to suggest available resources and can keep track of your progress and see you holistically including your body language than we are.

That said, I think a lot of people here will be happy to offer some advice to you as well. Do you feel like you're falling deeper and deeper into a mental rut because the strategies you are using to cope (alcohol/eating probably?) are only temporary bandaid solutions? It sounds like your weight gain makes you feel like you're going backwards in life on top of all the other losses that happened, like your job and mental health.

Are you indulging in the stereotypical comfort foods when it comes to emotional eating? Maybe you need to substitute healthy alternatives for a while to trick yourself until you can decrease the habit to eat. More apples and celery and water than junk food and pop? It's going to be annoying and probably not even half as satisfying, but hopefully it will counter some of the negative effects for a while.
I think alcohol is okay for a social lubricant in low levels, but for a lot of people, it quickly turns into a dependency, and I'm not a big fan of drinking myself, so my suggestion is to drink less and interact more without it and brace yourself for the anxiety that comes knowing that the world will not end. Over time, you'll be able to train yourself to not take those anxiety signals so seriously and you can enjoy yourself more genuinely and feel in actual control.
It sounds like the food and alcohol are was to control your emotions, and while they kind of work, it also is unhealthy for you long-term. You want to find ways to feel in control without turning to these things so often, and that may mean having to practice more with just coping and calming yourself down without those things when you're confronted by social situations or emotional waves. Practising on your breathing, letting go of thoughts, and redirecting yourself to another task or topic (mostly an easy or tedious one) can help bring you back to a more neutral level. If your anxiety really is that bad, maybe medication can help you get through some of the worst of it while it get your habits back under control.

It may take a while to get all of these things in the right balance, so don't give up on yourself during setbacks.
I'm so mad right now, I just checked my final grade for my C programming class and I failed. It's funny because I started off well and I failed on the final. Not only that but on my last two homework, I got 11.25%. That's what happens when I'm overconfident on doing alright for this class despite not doing so much on my homework. I'm so disappointed in myself right now. Sigh, I'm so stupid.

My bad for being a nuisance to everyone since I've been ranting constantly so I can get stuff like this off my chest. Also, I have no one to talk to about my problems.
Weh, that's awful! Is there any way to make up for it? Well, maybe just retaking the course.. The good thing about retaking the course is that you're kind of prepared for it all this time around!
You're probably not stupid, but just weren't attentive or careful enough to catch your mistakes. I know it takes me a few times to learn a math thing. Luckily, I usually manage to remember long enough to pass a test, but I'll be darned if I remember any formulas or rules after the test is over! I actually avoid programming stuff because even though I find it interesting, it involves logic and math, and I know I wouldn't be able to handle too much of it at once.

You're not being a nuisance. Things like this are definitely frustrating and disappointing to experience, but you can always do better next time, or at least you know more about your limits when it comes to learning and spitting out C homework. Like how are you in your other courses? Maybe C is just your great weakness, but you can probably climb back from this.
I actually managed to go to that yoga class I chickened out of going to last week. It went very well, the teacher was very friendly and so were the class mates (again). Part of the workout involved teaming up with another member and my anxiety spiked here, but thankfully the woman next to me was happy to pair up and she smiled and talked to me as if she was enjoying herself. I'm definitely beginning to feel more comfortable around other people. I have noticed that my frustration is shifting from being unable to go to social events towards being unable to start conversations with people at those social events (though I still have anxiety about going to pubs and clubs alone). This is proof, I think, that I'm making progress.

On the other hand, I texted an ex-work colleague yesterday to ask if she is up for playing sports again next week like we did this week. She still hasn't replied. I'm a bit paranoid that I came across as too boring last week and she has lost interest in me as a friend - I still have a tendency of being too quiet.
Sounds good! You did a good job getting enough courage to go through with it the second time around! It sounds like the exposure and practice is paying itself off, and you're definitely making progress as you're moving goalposts for your frustrations lol.

When did you text her? Maybe she's just forgetful (or if like me, a wishy washy person lol). You don't have to jump to conclusions right away and assess yourself like that. You made an effort and initiated contact. That is good in itself, and the ball's in her court to respond and you don't need to think too much about it. At least you identified that you're being a little paranoid (I think we all are of being judged lol). But focus on the good things you have going on instead and be happy with the progress you have made so far.

Three years ago this August, I started working as an intern at a small marketing agency that had about 6 employees. Another guy around my age started on the same day.

My internship ended after two months, but he got hired on.

I happened to check out the company website today just to see what they're up to, and not only has the company grown to 40+ employees, but the guy who started on the same day as me as an intern is now the COO.

Talk about a fucking gut punch.

Meanwhile, I just quit my job a few months ago to start a freelance career, and I'm failing pretty miserably at it.

My head is swimming right now. This sucks.
It's probably just better to think of it as luck of the draw and nothing personal, since this was a long time ago. Everyone kind of heads off in different paths and who knows where we all end up. Buttttt, on the plus side, is there a chance you can hit that person or company up and get hired on or network since you had history with the place? Sounds like an opportunity to be had!
And even if not much comes out of it, the networking will probably help.

You recently quit your job to start a freelance career, so that sounds like a big jump already. Freelancing for what, exactly? Maybe you have to just give yourself more time to promote yourself and send out a lot of portfolios or resumes. If you were able to quit, it sounds like you have the qualifications to get hired again at different places, so it's not like you're out of options? I feel like freelance work is always a little precarious, but the freedom is the tradeoff. It just depends what you really want to achieve and the lifestyle you want to have, but I'm assuming you have options for you, but it's just a matter of not comparing yourself to others so harshly.

You don't need to kick yourself when you're feeling down already. Hopefully it gives you some motivation eventually to step up your game.

I'm just venting, so I don't expect any reply, but I really need to get it off my mind and this is the only place I can do it in relative anonymity while still easing the burden the revelation poses.

From an early age, I had suspicions that my parents investigated any activity I did, from speaking to teachers regularly about what I said and/or did in class, to the parents of friends who they had investigated to find out precisely what I said, to relatives who I spoke to so they could glean every bit of insight into what I was doing to later manipulate, to any other miscellaneous individual who I came into contact with. In adition, they had a rather corrosive affect on anything I enjoyed, be it swimming (where my father always demanded on accompanying me, where he always ended up shouting at me and/or telling me I was shit at it) to a friend I brought home (who they interrogated, and then integrated themselves in all activites which made the person who had been my friend dislike me due to their obsessive behaviour destroying the day). To remedy this, I resolved never to mingle that which I liked, be it friends or hobbies, with them, in order to avoid their corrosive affect on all that made me feel decent about myself, by refusing to speak to relatives to any extent, refusing to bring home friends while they were present, and refusing to partake in any activities I enjoyed until thy were gone. This is, of course, overlooking their manipulative, dehumanising, insulting, belittling, narcissistic, spiteful, and obsessive nature, and my father's alcoholism and penchant for outbursts of screaming.

There was quite a large length of time where I strongly believed there were cameras scattered amongst my house so that they could observe my behaviour while I was away, and manipulate me more successfully when they returned. This was, clearly, insane, and paranoid. I knew full well that it was, but even so in the moments that I believed this I was gripped with a sense of certainty as it conflicted with my rational acknowledgement that it was crazy. I had thought, perhaps, that maybe they didn't contact relatives to find out what I was doing, perhaps they didn't contact friends' parents in the past, that they didn't contact teachers or the school facilty, perhaps that was crazy too? Never the less I never reigned myself in, I wasn't so doubtful that they were indeed that controlling so as to break my personal vow of silence and detachment and to preserve what little privacy, and happiness I had.

A few weeks ago, I discovered that they indeed searched my room regularly and most of that happiness diminished, particularly as the circumstances surrounding that carried grave consequences for my future and deeply impacted the stability of my living situation, but while things had remained rather static in a practical sense since then, I had slightly come to terms with the situation. And then today, while with my aunt, she stated bluntly that my mother had always contacted her as soon as I left so that my mother would try and loosen crumbs of information from her by joking about how she'd be contacted when I left and my mother would interrogate her as she (my aunt; one of three people I trust that aren't friends, my others being my grandmother and former child-minder, neither of who I trust not to reveal everything to my parents) remained tight-lipped. All of a sudden I feel like every potential piece of supposed paranoia I'd had regarding them has vanished. Every single feeling of loathing, scathing hatred of them which I'd had suppressed since the revelation of them searching my items obsessively has surfaced once more. Every possibility I once considered delusional has now been rendered as a distinctly realistic possibility. I had thought that escaping their grasp was a possibility as I leave for college and cease all communication, but that miniscule hope has been squashed; given how obsessive they are, given how distrustful and manipulative I can now plainly see, with confirmation to all but the most insane belief, that they are, it's clear that they'll never retract their tendrils. I don't, as already stated, expect a reply, there's not really any escape from the situation at the moment, The only thing I really have is a fierce hatred of them which I really must get out of my head as quickly as possible, hence this post, as it really is a bad idea to let it fester.
That is actually kind of scary.
They PROBABLY didn't have videocameras everywhere (or if they did, you probably would have noticed or run into them???), but yeah, the fact that they had been oddly surveilling your every move is concerning.

Have you ever been able to confront them about this? Ask why they are so nosy? It almost sounds like you haven't out of fear they might double down. I think your best hope is so gain independence to limit communication with them if they are that toxic to you. And I think it's definitely possible.
Going for college should give you hope. I don't know how they will be able to call up the admin or whatever to talk about you. That will be a lost cause for them and you can enjoy yourself and the fresh air finally.
 
I will be doing my first Remicade infusion in about a week. Don't really know if I am worth the cost of doing Remicade therapy. I mean why would the government spend 30,000 $ on a suicidal person like me every year when that amount of money could save many starving children in developing countries?
 
It is something that people already use this thread for, pretty regularly. I will say that if you wanted some insight, or advice for your issues, then asking specific questions definitely helps with that. As trying to reply to a long rant, without any real direction can be hard to tackle, and to know what to say exactly. But some do post just to get it off their chest, and nothing else. Which is perfectly fine as well.

Yeah, I noticed this when lurking this thread. I would like advice if possible but if not then that's okay.

Anyways, to begin, I feel like I should start by saying a bit of information about what conditions and issues I've had for a long time now. I've had general anxiety for a very long time, especially in an academic setting. I can remember panicking and acting insane over exams for as long as all the way back to the second grade. I also have some problems with my muscles that make them weaker and harder to develop that I don't know much about but I guess that's not really related to mental health. I think I have other conditions but I don't exactly know what they are. I have not looked at any of the official paperwork relating to my mental health and I'm not sure that any other conditions have been diagnosed. My dad said that when I was young I got tested for high functioning autism and he found out that I didn't have it, but regardless some of my behaviors are rather similar to someone with high functioning autism to this day. For example, I have trouble making eye contact and socializing in general, and I do tend to maintain interests in very specific things. I also get easily frustrated and have trouble adjusting to new schedules. In addition to these things, I also feel like I learn things differently than most people, though I'm not quite sure how.

But anyways, throughout my schooling I've received accommodations for mental health; I usually get more time on assignments and exams and am allowed to take exams in a room separate from other students. But what really made me want to post in this topic is that I feel as though for the past year or so I may have been experiencing depression.

Now, I'm not actually sure if I am depressed, because I haven't seen a therapist about it or even told anyone about it before. And I'm not 100% sure because I'm not quite sure what depression is like; I mean, I'm not always sad, all the time, so maybe I'm not. If I'm with my family or playing video games I'm usually happy, though I have found it hard to actually motivate myself to play games at times. But there's always looming feelings of worthlessness and self-hatred. Usually these fluctuate; sometimes I can hardly feel them at all, sometimes they're so damning and present that I can't think about anything but what an awful awful person I think I am.

I guess you can sort of skim this part (everything up through detailing my college experience) if you feel like it, since it's not really all that important but I felt the need to get it off my chest

The real problem stems from my self esteem, which is incredible low. I'm going to be more personal right here and speak a bit more about myself and why I think it's so low. Anyways, I'm a white, upper-middle class guy from suburban California, which means that I come from a successful family with loving and encouraging parents. I'm currently ending my Sophomore Year in college. Throughout life I haven't really had many interests aside from games, the internet, and school. In elementary, middle, and high school I was generally a good student, didn't really have many friends and the ones I did have I didn't really spend much time with outside of school. I was generally I pretty good student, though in high school I didn't have an extremely challenging schedule because I was afraid of the possibility of failure and because my councilors. I generally excelled in math and English the most. I spent a lot more time on homework than most students, I'd usually come home and play games or watch TV or go on the computer and post online or watch anime for an hour or so and then spend five hours working on homework. This didn't really bug me, I just figured I was a slow worker and that's how I was. I had some difficulties, but in general I was successful and I ended up getting into a fairly decently ranked expensive, small, private university.

I went into Computer Engineering here. Just so anyone can keep track, I'm keep in mind I'm in Sophomore Year, third quarter right now. So, first quarter, I was generally pretty successful and got good grades, around B-rangeish, and I studied pretty hard. I wasn't sure if I liked Computer Engineering Second quarter I had a bit more difficulty, especially in my Physics class, but I ended up doing alright and passing all my classes which is what I figured I can hope for in an Engineering major, more or less.

Third quarter is when I began to have difficulties. This quarter I took a class in Physics (2), Programming, Calculus (3), and a logic programming class. I found all four to be difficult and the only one I didn't really struggle in was logic programming. The most frustrating for me was my main programming class; I began to realize that I didn't like programming at all. I realized I don't think it's something I can do for the rest of my life; I don't find it enjoyable or rewarding or even tolerable in the least. Programming just feels so tedious to me, and 99% of the time I feel completely lost. In retrospect I don't know if I've ever coded something that isn't very simplistic without having someone help me figure out what I'm supposed to do fairly directly. Moreover the way that class was taught made it difficult to study for. At my university, most of the programming classes don't actually have a lot of programming assignments; it's usually just the labs. The exams are really what count for most of your points, and on the exams you usually have to write short lines of code and identify and understand concepts. So when I told my professor I didn't feel confident enough with my skills, he was basically like "welp go look at the labs and do them again". I ended up bombing the first two exams. The first one I admittedly didn't really study much for, but for the second one I looked at the first exam and the labs and the textbook many many times and spent a lot of time, and still ended up feeling lost. I ended up dropping the class after the second exam when the professor basically told me I had to. At this time I was having difficulties in my Calculus and Physics classes, not because of one particular concept, but just because I felt like the classes were moving way too fast. I would go to class and they would pile on several concepts and I just lost track. I would spend several hours a day studying for these classes and I still ended up feeling lost. After I dropped my programming class, that's when the feelings of depression began setting in. I just sort of lost motivation to try in Physics or Calculus. I still put fourth the effort in my Programming Logic class and ended up doing alright there. I also ended up doing alright in my Physics class because the professor was super nice to the students and gave the class an extreme curve. But I ended up failing Calculus. I probably would have dropped Calculus and Physics but I live on campus and need to be enrolled in at least three classes to maintain housing.

So, fast forward a bit, school starts back up in the Fall. I talk to my mom some, I don't tell her about my feelings of depression that began to start, but I told her about everything else. I end up taking a bit of an easier quarter to hopefully prevent a situation like that from happening again; I retake the Calculus and Programming classes that I failed, and also take a Spanish class and an Anthropology course. Additionally I hired a tutor for programming and Calculus. I do well in Spanish, though the course was easy. I do alright in the Programming class, it was pretty hard but I put fourth the effort. However, I get a D in both Calculus and Anthropology. I had difficulties keeping up with Calculus AGAIN. It wasn't as hard this time because I was more familiar with the concepts, but there were some that I just couldn't for the life of my understand. The tutor I hired was extremely flaky and towards the end of the quarter I couldn't contact him at all. I ended up lacking the motivation to just figure some of it out, especially in the time frame the class took place in. Anthropology was just difficult, and I had trouble remembering all of the facts I read for exams. They just wouldn't "stick" in my head, if that makes any sense, though I guess I'll get to more of that later.

But, next quarter comes, I end up taking the classes I signed up for. "Ds" technically count as passing at my school so I was able to take the next courses in the Calculus and Anthropology sequences. I also took another programming class and an electoral engineering class. I end up dropping the electrical engineering class near the beginning of the quarter, since I just found it to be overwhelming at the start and there was a recommended prerequisite class that I didn't take. Calculus is disastrous. That class was probably the most ridiculous class I had ever taken. There were like five homework assignments a week with three of them being due online. The individual online assignments could take me upwards of five hours or so, with half of that time being spent trying to figure out my small mistakes and give the website the exact answer it wanted since if I didn't do that I wouldn't receive any points for the problem. They ended up taking me more than five hours because I would just rage at the computer and have to take a break to calm myself down after I couldn't figure out the exact answer that the site wanted me to give. And, since I had lost contact with math tutors at that point, I tried to find another personal Calculus tutor but I was unsuccessful. So I ended up struggling in the class outside of the assignments because I couldn't keep up with the concepts. As a result of this I would do poorly on the assignments and exams because I didn't comprehend all of the concepts. So I would be spending ridiculous amounts of time a week, trying to keep up with all of my assignments that I would only be getting half credit for anyways because a significant portion of my answers were wrong because I didn't really understand what I was doing. I had to stay enrolled in this class because I couldn't drop it (since I had to maintain housing), but halfway through I think I just sort of gave up, though I still attended class and tried to follow along. Much like how earlier dropping my programming class sort of made me unmotivated in my other classes, this class made me unmotivated in my other classes. For example, I was actually keeping up with and understanding the concepts in my programming class, but I just lost motivation to keep up with the actual assignments (that the professor actually assigned this time) because I was just so burnt out by my Calculus class and they were just so intimidating. My second anthropology class was more or less the same as the first one. I ended up doing okay in programming, getting another D in Anthropology, and obviously failing Calculus.

At this point my mom and my councilor noticed the difficulty I was having, so in between that quarter and the one I'm in right now I sat down to talk to them. After talking to both of them I decided on taking an easier quarter with mostly non-STEM classes to help boost my GPA. This quarter I'm taking an Astrobiology Course, an Introductory religion and Political Science courses, and another programming course (so I actually have something within my major). I'm doing alright in all of them, and I'm probably going to pass all of them, but the only one I'm really excelling in is my Introductory Religion course, which is generally a pretty easy course for everyone.

As for outside of my classes, I live on college campus, but I hardly do anything here. I spend most of my time in my dorm or in the library. On a typical weekday, I wake up, go to classes, then go on the computer, then go to bed. Weekends are the same except without classes. On the computer I'm either studying or browsing the internet. I'll admit that I get distracted by the internet a lot, but because I'm on the computer pretty much the entire day I usually spend quite a few hours a day studying and working for my classes. I don't really play video games much during the school year, though usually a couple times a week I'll set aside a few hours to play a game. Like in elementary/middle/high school, I don't really have many friends. The only friends I do have are my roommates. Now, I like talking to my roommates and hanging out with them sometimes. However, they're jerks. They'll make fun of me for liking anime a lot. One of them has an ongoing narrative that he tells me about how he's having sex with my mom. Now, they do this sort of thing to each other too, but I don't really take jabs and mess with them in response because that's not really my thing. Occasionally I think it's funny, but usually I just tell them that I would appreciate it if they stopped, and they don't. They're still usually cool with me, and they seem to enjoy my company, but I'm sort of tired of hanging out with most of them. Next year I'm getting paired up with random people instead, so maybe I'll make friends with them.

So, throughout this entire experience, I've just became less and less confident in myself. Admittedly I didn't have much self confidence before college, but now it's just extremely low. I feel like a terrible, terrible, terrible human being. Like absolute bottom-of-the-barrel. If I were to walk around the area I live in and look at other people I would view myself as inferior to each and every one of them. I feel like I'm doing nothing but being a leech on society. The real, major heart of the problem, I think, is that I feel like I'm not good or even really average at everything. This is sort of a cliche I think, for someone to think that they're bad at literally everything, but it's honestly how I feel. I'm not intelligent, I'm not a good student, I'm not athletic, I'm not sociable, I'm not funny, I'm not good looking, I'm not anything. I'm just garbage. I'm not even good at video games, even though they're my main hobby and the thing I have the most fun with. I didn't used to feel this way, since I was a decent at worst student prior to college and didn't really care about anything else, but now these feelings have been settling in hardcore.

The only thing I feel like I might be any good at is tracking information on games and users. This is something I'm famous for on a couple other sites, and it's something I do a lot of in my free time. Just memorizing information about random people and games. But it's a skill so useless that I wish I didn't have it at all. Just having it makes me feel even more garbage. I cannot for the life of me remember any information for college classes that center around memorizing important information even if I spend hours memorizing it, but I can remember details about some mediocre video game I read about online that I have no intention of ever playing. I can remember that some person posted that he forgot to brush his teeth in the morning two years ago. I just feel awful that I can remember such pointless information, because I feel like it means that my brain prioritizes it over actually important thing.

But otherwise, I just constantly feel inferior to others. Like everyone around me is successful, and has done something, and I haven't. People around me are able to maintain a social life, work a job, have hobbies, and go out to parties and other places and still be successful students. I don't do any of these things and I'm still not able to be a successful student. Sometimes I feel like everyone around me spends a lot less time studying than I do but are still able to do better than me (my roommates certainly do). I just feel absolutely dreadful, and this contributes to my feelings of human indecency.

I'm also just extremely worried. I have no idea where to go. Since I don't really excel in anything I have no idea what I would change my major to if I changed majors. Additionally my GPA is pretty much unsalvageable at this point, I'm right on the cusp of probation in terms of both GPA and units taken. I don't know much about graduate school but I know that you have to have a certain GPA to get in, so I'm scared to switch to a major that's heavily competitive with graduate school. I know I'm going to graduate in five years at the least (I go to a university where most students are heavily encouraged and pressured to graduate in four years, which added to the stress early on though I've basically gotten over that since my mom said she'd pay for however many years it would take to get me through college).

Earlier, I said that I come from a successful upper-middle class family in California, so it might seem strange to some people that I might be depressed. My parents are extremely loving and supportive of pretty much anything I do. I don't think I've met many parents as caring as mine. They're ultimate goal is for their children to be happy, and they'd give up pretty much anything for that. But, oddly enough, this actually contributes to my feelings of self-hatred. Because I always feel like I SHOULDN'T be experiencing these feelings of hatred, if that makes any sense. Internally I'm always thinking to myself "Why am I so awful? Why am I not successful? I should be successful because I have all of the advantages in the world, and yet I can't accomplish the most basic of things!". I'm terrified to tell my parents how I feel, because like I said, they just want their children to be happy. They would give up all the things in the world so their children would be happy. I'm scared that if I tell my mom how I feel about myself it would break her poor little heart. I think I'm probably ready to do it anyways, since I know it's necessary, but I've been avoiding it for the longest time. When I was talking to my mom about my difficulties in classes, there were a couple times where I think she even asked "You're not depressed, are you?" and I just sort of froze up and denied it.

Also, it's not as a big of a factor that contributes to my feelings of worthlessness, but since it's a factor I guess I'll mention it. Even though I'm a Sophomore in College I still feel like a child. As you can probably tell from reading this I still rely on my parents for a lot of things. Sometimes I feel like I never fully developed as a person in my teenage years. I have trouble motivating myself just to do typical adult responsibilities like cleaning my dorm room and maintaining proper hygiene. I've never worked a job in my life. I typically spend Summers in my room playing video games all day, which I enjoy for the most part and I wish I could basically just do for the rest of my life. There's no need for me to take a job during the school year since my parents are paying for all of my college and then some (which, again, contributes to feelings of worthlessness because I feel like I should be successful because of this). I get lost easily, and probably wouldn't be able to find my way back home if someone dropped me off in the middle of the city. I feel like these are skills I should have developed by the time I was 15 years old but I haven't yet. I also get frustrated easily and sometimes behave like a child. I even sort of sound and look childish, though I don't really care much about that.

So yeah, that's how I really feel about myself. This was probably way way longer than it needed to be and I doubt anyone will end up reading everything I wrote and now I'm sort of afraid that someone I know from another site will find this, but I really needed to get all of this off my chest because in the past few weeks these feelings have been increasing. I probably overdramatized how I feel about myself and my situation, but whatever. Hopefully I'll improve.

EDIT: If anyone does read this, for a personal response, what do you guys suggest I should actually do? I'm not sure if I actually want to start seeing a therapist or taking medication, even though that seems like the most obvious route. I've seen therapists a couple times before, earlier in my life, and the honestly didn't help me that much. And I'm afraid of getting addicted to medications. I read the information in the OP about medication, and it makes sense, but I guess my fear of taking medication is mostly just irrational but it's still something.
 
It's probably just better to think of it as luck of the draw and nothing personal, since this was a long time ago. Everyone kind of heads off in different paths and who knows where we all end up. Buttttt, on the plus side, is there a chance you can hit that person or company up and get hired on or network since you had history with the place? Sounds like an opportunity to be had!
And even if not much comes out of it, the networking will probably help.

You recently quit your job to start a freelance career, so that sounds like a big jump already. Freelancing for what, exactly? Maybe you have to just give yourself more time to promote yourself and send out a lot of portfolios or resumes. If you were able to quit, it sounds like you have the qualifications to get hired again at different places, so it's not like you're out of options? I feel like freelance work is always a little precarious, but the freedom is the tradeoff. It just depends what you really want to achieve and the lifestyle you want to have, but I'm assuming you have options for you, but it's just a matter of not comparing yourself to others so harshly.

You don't need to kick yourself when you're feeling down already. Hopefully it gives you some motivation eventually to step up your game.

Well, the internship ended on neutral to bad terms. The owner had no intention of hiring me at the end of it, but he framed it in a way that I just hadn't put in the effort outside of work to prove myself "worthy" of a permanent position. At the time, it didn't seem to be much of a loss because the company was so small, but now it looks like a huge mistake. I'm also not sure if I can really network with any of them now given the circumstances of me leaving.

I'm trying to make it as a freelance writer--mostly writing website content and other marketing-related materials. My job after that internship was working as a copywriter at an advertising agency (and I eventually got promoted to senior level), so my work experience is pretty solid. As you said, I love the freedom of the freelance life, and I actually find myself more motivated than I ever felt working in an office...when I actually have work to do, that is.

I think I'm going to setup an appointment with a career counselor/general counselor sometime this week to just work through my frustrations and the second-guessing that is consuming my life right now.

I actually started researching the steps to take to get into med school the other night, despite having no real interest in being a doctor. Like I said, my head is just swimming and I'm completely fixated on finding a lucrative and enjoyable career, because I have this sinking feeling that I will never make it as a writer and even if I do, I will never make any real money.
 
So yeah, that's how I really feel about myself. This was probably way way longer than it needed to be and I doubt anyone will end up reading everything I wrote and now I'm sort of afraid that someone I know from another site will find this, but I really needed to get all of this off my chest because in the past few weeks these feelings have been increasing. I probably overdramatized how I feel about myself and my situation, but whatever. Hopefully I'll improve.

Our lives seem pretty similar, although I'm a bit older so I'm not in the same place in life. I wish I could offer advice, but it'd be a disservice to pretend I know what you should do.

I think you should spill it all out to your parents, though. If the problems keep growing, they'll end up finding out anyway. They'd want to know sooner.

(Also, yea, I remember your username from another gaming website. Nothing you said is bad, though, so I wouldn't worry about people finding out...)
 
@GamerJM: Im in a very similar situation as you where in my life, I spent a ton on video games and anime with little consideration on doing adult responsibilities. My parents are basically paying for my university and Im also struggling with Computer Science although somewhere deep inside me I want to do this. I just recently failed 3 courses in one semester and that's when crap hit the fan. Im doing a reduced courseload hoping that I get it together soon.

To answer your question, seeing a therapist wouldnt hurt. Also finding people who share the same hobbies as you would open you more to them so you can start socializing more comfortably.

That feeling of worthlessness is really painful for everyone. What I tried to do is to grab a piece of paper and write down things I want to do. Write anything down and start working on it as early as possible.

Also finding a support system is going to be hard since you mentioned you havent made alot of friends who you can have constant contact with but I think finding people with similar hobbies like I mentioned above will start to motivate you or will make you positive.

I wish you good luck in your studies and your personal life.
 
I appreciate the responses.

That feeling of worthlessness is really painful for everyone. What I tried to do is to grab a piece of paper and write down things I want to do. Write anything down and start working on it as early as possible.

There are a few issues with this. One is that I'm not very ambitious, honestly. I don't really have many things I want to do in life. And I already know what the few things that I do want to do are.....sort of. Also, having a list of goals stresses me out, and I don't work well under stress due to anxiety. Junior Year of High School I set some goals for myself that I couldn't meet and I felt terrible for not meeting them, I got over this when I realized that I think not meeting arbitrary goals shouldn't determine your self worth.

Also finding a support system is going to be hard since you mentioned you havent made alot of friends who you can have constant contact with but I think finding people with similar hobbies like I mentioned above will start to motivate you or will make you positive.

I wish you good luck in your studies and your personal life.

I think I forgot to mention in my post, I'm generally a pretty introverted person and I don't really like having a lot of friends. There have been times in my life where I probably could have made more friends, but I chose not to because I was content with my group of friends I already had. Also I guess I'm sort of picky when choosing who to be friends with, since I honestly haven't really met anyone here at my university beyond my roommates who I liked as people enough to ask if they wanted to hang out. I feel like people in classes don't want to talk to me since I have weird behaviors and I'm constantly asking the professors obvious questions which I don't think other students really like. Also there aren't any gaming or anime clubs here at my school and I have no idea how I'd find other people with common interests.

Still guys, thanks for the advice, it really does help to know people read this and understand my situation.
 
Weh, that's awful! Is there any way to make up for it? Well, maybe just retaking the course.. The good thing about retaking the course is that you're kind of prepared for it all this time around!
You're probably not stupid, but just weren't attentive or careful enough to catch your mistakes. I know it takes me a few times to learn a math thing. Luckily, I usually manage to remember long enough to pass a test, but I'll be darned if I remember any formulas or rules after the test is over! I actually avoid programming stuff because even though I find it interesting, it involves logic and math, and I know I wouldn't be able to handle too much of it at once.

You're not being a nuisance. Things like this are definitely frustrating and disappointing to experience, but you can always do better next time, or at least you know more about your limits when it comes to learning and spitting out C homework. Like how are you in your other courses? Maybe C is just your great weakness, but you can probably climb back from this.

I don't think I'm going to take it again since it's not my major requirement. Another reason besides stupidity and not careful is that I don't care. My gpa was 1.66 because I gave up in discrete math and failed horribly. You said I can do better next time....if there is one since I'm going to get a message of being on probation. I got A for English, B+ for Ethnic Studies, and B for data structures (My brother helped me with the homework so credits goes to him). The only thing that makes me happy is finding a decent job that helps me make a living...that's it.
 
That is actually kind of scary.
They PROBABLY didn't have videocameras everywhere (or if they did, you probably would have noticed or run into them???), but yeah, the fact that they had been oddly surveilling your every move is concerning.

Have you ever been able to confront them about this? Ask why they are so nosy? It almost sounds like you haven't out of fear they might double down. I think your best hope is so gain independence to limit communication with them if they are that toxic to you. And I think it's definitely possible.
Going for college should give you hope. I don't know how they will be able to call up the admin or whatever to talk about you. That will be a lost cause for them and you can enjoy yourself and the fresh air finally.

I can recognise that the house being plagued with cameras is an irrational, paranoid delusional given that, as you say, I would have discovered some trace if there were, be it finding monitoring equipment, finding wires, finding somewhere information is saved/watched, etc. Part of the issue is that while I can recognise the paranoid element, and know it is so, in moments of thinking it is the case I cannot shake the belief. I had suspected that perhaps their 'actually kind of scary' monitoring was a similar delusion in the past, but the most recent revelation has destroyed even the little confidence/trust I had in them. I have indeed confronted them in the past, as I've made my displeasure with them abundantly clear, something that I know was not a calculating move but I had, futilely, hoped that they would change. The results of such a confrontation typically involved them calling me "selfish" for not appreciating all they had done, commenting that they merely wanted what was best for me (overlooking the completely destructive effect it has had almost everywhere), claiming I was "spoilt", "childish", and "ruining the family" with such outbursts, "corrupting [my] siblings" with my personality as I lacked any 'positive aspects', while they also reminded me that they "are [my] parents, not [my] friends" in response to "I just want you to be nicer". Regardless, I've calmed down since last night and am seeing things with a greater degree of clarity and less through the discolouring lens of peaking emotional responses; hopefully college will indeed be an improvement and a greater level of independance can finally be achieved. EDIT: Anyway, thank you for the response. As stated I'm doing somewhat better now than I had been last night.

As for GamerJM, I really cannot respond too much to your situation. I'd probably echo the response that you should reveal your feelings to your parents. It can be difficult to alleviate feelings of worthlessness, certainly, but I'm sure you have many positive qualities and it is necessary to focus on these rather than your perceived flaws. Take, for instance, your ability to memorise facts pertaining to games and individuals. You say it's useless, but this is certainly not so, particularly the latter part. Memorising information about people can be a very valuable asset in employment, particularly in areas where there is an on-going interaction with customers/clients/people on a personal basis. This may be seen somewhat as a negative given your feeling that you have somewhat few friends, but this in particular will greatly assist you in networking, as others will feel that you are paying them a particularly large amount of interest, and that you have a vested interest in them as you remember even small details about them. While I cannot really comment on how you could build your self esteem too thoroughly, it's important, again, that you don't focus, too heavily on perceived flaws and instead look at the abilities you have, and try to uncover strengths that you don't yet know you have (be it by changing majors away from STEM topics and back towards English [which you stated you were good at in school], or something else).
 
Well, the internship ended on neutral to bad terms. The owner had no intention of hiring me at the end of it, but he framed it in a way that I just hadn't put in the effort outside of work to prove myself "worthy" of a permanent position. At the time, it didn't seem to be much of a loss because the company was so small, but now it looks like a huge mistake. I'm also not sure if I can really network with any of them now given the circumstances of me leaving.

I'm trying to make it as a freelance writer--mostly writing website content and other marketing-related materials. My job after that internship was working as a copywriter at an advertising agency (and I eventually got promoted to senior level), so my work experience is pretty solid. As you said, I love the freedom of the freelance life, and I actually find myself more motivated than I ever felt working in an office...when I actually have work to do, that is.

I think I'm going to setup an appointment with a career counselor/general counselor sometime this week to just work through my frustrations and the second-guessing that is consuming my life right now.

I actually started researching the steps to take to get into med school the other night, despite having no real interest in being a doctor. Like I said, my head is just swimming and I'm completely fixated on finding a lucrative and enjoyable career, because I have this sinking feeling that I will never make it as a writer and even if I do, I will never make any real money.
The odds of freelance success are low because it's a harder path to take than simply going to school, getting a degree, and applying for a job in ________ field. It's running a small service-oriented business. The number or people I've met who both understand this and can pull it off is a number I can count on half a hand. It's very rare.

This is also part of the reason I don't give my sister too much credit. She worked hard but ultimately chose an easier path. The luck always ends up being in a person's interest. If they're lucky they'll end up loving every minute of finance or STEM and have a carpet rolled out for them.

Lastly, the vast majority of people I saw forging out on their own had much larger safety nets than I did. I didn't get the chance to scrape my knees so much... And that's heavily influenced some of my decisions.
 
Yeah, I agree that it's normal to seek acknowledgement or validation. The main problem is after seeking it, when a person in a bad state of mind immediately dismisses it as "lies" or "naive pity" or they counter everything with their own negativity. It's tricky for everyone to figure out a good balance to get at the "truth", but I think a good rule is to choose the support and statements that help build you or give you positive direction (especially if they are from people you trust or respect!).

The thing with online interactions is that they are very easy to dismiss as "not real". That's a psychological barrier for most people, so online interactions won't usually be able to satisfy their social needs. The time lag and maybe lack of physicality also plays into that. But it's still really good that it exists for social hermits such as me. Kind of gives me a practice area to say things and meet new people with less commitment. lol

Sounds great that you are looking into groups though, and I think that positive attitude about it will get you far! Good luck with that and I hope you find fun people and activities to do! What kind of groups are you looking at in general?

Cheers for the reply. I appreciate the time you take out for those huge posts, and I'm sure I'm not alone there. If you're in a really rotten mood, it can make you feel more inclined to be dismissive. It can make you think "they're lying, this is just a quick attempt at making me feel better. They don't really mean what they say" When that comes to mind, I look objectively at person that said it. What kind of person they are, who are they to me, what would they have to gain by lying? Which does help with that. Regarding the people I like as straight up liars would not be a good habit, and I know I wouldn't like someone to think that about me.

Some do dismiss online interaction as not being as valid. Which in 2014, seems like a bit of an odd mindset to have. Given that internet usage has only become more common for so many different areas, and social platforms are no exception. So I'm definitely not one of those. But it is more limiting for me, due to that physical barrier. Of not being able to actually be with them, at any given time, or at all. It doesn't quite feel complete to me, without that. But there are less demands and pressure, so the pros are there for sure.

I think the groups are primarily mental health related, but I don't think they all are. I wont know exactly what they have, until my appointment later in the week, but I'll most likely post updates about that.

So I think it's important to figure out what drives your satisfaction. Do you need to have achieved something and have it concrete in front of you? Maybe those things don't matter and you just want to feel at peace first? Once you solve that and can do little things to achieve that sense of satisfaction, you can use it as a stepping stone to motivate yourself into accomplishing things in the other realms that you kind of take for granted or mean not so much to you.
It's all important (to achieve actual balance in your life), but depending on your mode of how you achieve that sense of satisfaction, you might need to reshuffle the steps you are always being told to take!

This made me think about motivation. It was one of the focuses of occupational therapy, the sort of conditions that apply to you, that make you feel more motivated to do things. What helps me is when it affects more than just myself. If I have just myself to answer to, it makes it much easier to write off. So obligation, and dependency is what tends to work for me. Knowing that there will be other people negatively affected by my inactivity can be enough to give me the push I need. Probably not the healthiest way, and sometimes a bit stress inducing, but it works.
 
The odds of freelance success are low because it's a harder path to take than simply going to school, getting a degree, and applying for a job in ________ field. It's running a small service-oriented business. The number or people I've met who both understand this and can pull it off is a number I can count on half a hand. It's very rare.

This is also part of the reason I don't give my sister too much credit. She worked hard but ultimately chose an easier path. The luck always ends up being in a person's interest. If they're lucky they'll end up loving every minute of finance or STEM and have a carpet rolled out for them.

Lastly, the vast majority of people I saw forging out on their own had much larger safety nets than I did. I didn't get the chance to scrape my knees so much... And that's heavily influenced some of my decisions.

I don't know about it being that rare. Maybe as a long-term career, but I think most people give up on it because they get tired of working from home or constantly hunting down work.

Coming from an advertising agency background, probably 75% of my coworkers, whether they were designers, developers, writers, editors, or SEO wizards, all worked freelance for at least one year during their careers.

It's just something I feel like I need to do. If I fail at it, so be it, but I don't think I could be happy coasting through an office job without ever knowing if I could have made it on my own.
 
Well, I got a job offer today from the company that I've been wanting to work at for the past 5-6 years. It involves me moving to Orange County, but the pay rate is low enough that it's going to be a serious struggle to live there. The biggest fucking albatross around my neck is my god damned student loans from the stupid fucking for-profit "college" that I attended. If it weren't for those, I'd have absolutely zero concerns about this. Fucking hell, it sucks having what should be the proudest moment of my life so far be ruined by my god damned anxiety and compulsive need to worry about every single fucking problem that comes up.

I have to decide if I'm going to take the biggest risk of my life, or if I'll just give up and go back into retail and live with my mom for a few more years.
I probably won't do the latter.
 
I don't know about it being that rare. Maybe as a long-term career, but I think most people give up on it because they get tired of working from home or constantly hunting down work.

Coming from an advertising agency background, probably 75% of my coworkers, whether they were designers, developers, writers, editors, or SEO wizards, all worked freelance for at least one year during their careers.

It's just something I feel like I need to do. If I fail at it, so be it, but I don't think I could be happy coasting through an office job without ever knowing if I could have made it on my own.
I meant as a career. If you're only planning to do this speculatively, that's worth the risk. Be aware there are careers which are only freelance and involve nothing permanent.

And it's like you say, they grow tired of the business aspect.
 
That is good news to hear! I myself rarely go to parties because I'm afraid of things getting awkward and me just getting too bored.
I think the fact that you managed to get past the anxiety and have a good time afterwards is great, and also reminds your brain to be more relaxed next time. Looking forward to more parties in the future?

I hope to go to some more eventually, but nothing on the horizon thus far! I still need more practice going out though - this party was relatively "easy" to go because most of the people know about my anxiety. That said, the party was a great marker of my success so far. As I said in an earlier post, last year I couldn't even walk up to my friend's front door.
 
I will be doing my first Remicade infusion in about a week. Don't really know if I am worth the cost of doing Remicade therapy. I mean why would the government spend 30,000 $ on a suicidal person like me every year when that amount of money could save many starving children in developing countries?
I've responded to you a couple times about Remicade and you haven't responded. I have been in your position before.

I have been on Remicade for 13 years. Without Remicade, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be alive today and at the very least, would not be able to function without it.

It's incredibly easier to focus on your mental health when you don't need to think of your other illnesses. I remember I have Crohn's diseaseonly when I have an infusion. That's it. For 2-3 hours every 1.5 months, I remember I have Crohns. Remicade has allowed me to function as a human being.

You live in Ontario (I'm assuming based on Trillium), you are about to rock it. Remicade has changed my life. You are going to notice a difference.
 
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