velociraptor
Junior Member
DmC sold poorly thanks to Capcom's stupid decisions.
Dragon's Dogma did quite well.
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Dragon's Dogma did quite well.
7-8 years of PS3/Xbox 360 was too long (I'm talking in regards to year 2013), if we were gonna wait till fall 2014 for PS4/XB1, I can't imagine how impatient most of GAF would be.
PS3/Xbox 360 overstayed it's welcome.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Yes, all the games are coming out this fall. No games are coming out this summer.
June/July/August.
Tumbleweed be rollin'.
Gamespot/IGN/whatever should make this known to developers and publishers.
KoruptData
Member
2014 - Year of the Backlog.
I wonder if there will be a general slide of games - eg those previously planned for Spring 2015 might now choose to slip to Fall 2015 to get more time for polish and also avoid the big hitters coming in from this year. And then some Fall 2015 games might push out to Spring 2016. Basically a ripple effect for publishers as they adjust their schedules?
AHA-Lambda
Member
Fixed, people say this every year.
For god's sake... Yeah yeah the game will only be better for it etc. I guess I just hoped that the game would already be where they want it to be by the end of this year... Pretty much all of the already known games that interests me got delayed to next year. I enjoyed inFamous but I kinda wish I hadn't bought my PS4 so soon. Not that I expect the ps4 to be cheaper by the start of 2015 but I could have used the money spent on the console for something else that would have benefitted me more at the time.
All in all, it's hardly the end of the world. All this complaining from me is just my disappointment speaking. I'll be okay.
All in all, it's hardly the end of the world. All this complaining from me is just my disappointment speaking. I'll be okay.
KillerMan91
Member
2005: X360 release, Launch software
2006: Some good titles here and there
2007: Big amount of good next gen games
Pretty similar.
Yeah. People often forget how barren the release schedule was during first years of last gen too. I still remember Delaystation nickname for PS3...
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Meanwhile I'm playing Guild Wars 2, Wolfenstein, Kirby, and Mario Golf while looking at Smash Bros, GRID Autosport, and Shovel Knight coming out this summer while wondering why I picked up MGR, Shadow Warrior, Enemy Within, and Arkham Origins
when my backlog is already huge enough.
and two dozen more just in May, but $3-$5 bundles don't count
shinra-bansho
Member
Dragon's Dogma sold well enough in Japan, it sold about 90K in the US. Resident Evil 6 just had terribly unrealistic sales expectations, but still sold significantly more.
Meanwhile, your systematic appraisal of all of these titles being unworthy of market success - they're niche, they're lack polish, they lack quality and production values - pretty well illustrates why publishers are consolidating onto known quantities and/or fewer bigger titles, with greater production and marketing budgets.
The market isn't as accommodating to the release of mid-tier titles as it has been. Consumers help to shape that market, not just producers.
Proposed Law
Member
I should have waited on next gen consoles.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
The 360 had:
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Gears of War
Rainbow Six: Vegas
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Saint's Row
Dead Rising
Call of Duty 3
From August to December 2006.
The PS3 had
Warhawk
Skate
Ratchet and Clank
Guitar Hero III
Modern Warfare
Uncharted
Time Crisis 4
Rock Band
From August to December 2007.
I would take either of those over this years line up by a country mile.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Wow, I can't believe it's the year 2014, into the 8th generation, and people still don't believe that the console market isn't AAA top heavy to a ludicrous degree. And somehow Angry Birds is the solution to this problem O__o
Who's got that list of the studios shuttered over gen 7?
Who's got that list of the studios shuttered over gen 7?
krypt0nian
Banned
Great news. Too many games I want in October!
block tower
Member
glad i haven't bought a PS4 yet, everything good coming out is in 2015. #waitstation4
'Tin hat time' but i was thinking about this the other day and i bet a lot of these delayed games are not really delayed, they were never coming out when we were told but they knew that not many people would buy a next gen console if we knew about it.
I think both consoles were probably supposed to come out sometime this year but they both didn't want to be the last one out.
I think both consoles were probably supposed to come out sometime this year but they both didn't want to be the last one out.
brickarts295
Member
damn they got us!
um Destiny is cross-gen
CyberPunked
Member
We've still got:
-Assassin's Creed: Unity
-Destiny
-Dragon Age: Inquisition
-Evil Within
-Evolve
-Alien Isolation
-Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor
-Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
-Assassin's Creed: Unity
-Destiny
-Dragon Age: Inquisition
-Evil Within
-Evolve
-Alien Isolation
-Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor
-Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
Off-Kilter
Banned
Way too many games coming out in 2015
Zen_Arcade
Banned
It's not accommodating because they're not good at it. You're essentially saying that Capcom should stop trying to diversify the games they make because they made a bunch of bad ones. The games they made weren't bad because they didn't have enough money to work with, they were bad because they were boring from concept. Fuse still would have been a shitty game if it had a huge budget, because it's a shitty boring shooter in an ocean of shitty boring shooters. These companies were making these cheaper games for years before last generation. The only difference is they made good, unique ones, just like the ones the indie community is filling the role of now.
I never said anything about lack of production values, and as we've seen with the indie community, you don't need to make an expensive game to make a quality, enjoyable, profitable one.
Resident Evil 6 had terribly unrealistic sales expectations because that's probably what was needed to make the game profitable. It doesn't matter how many copies the game sold if it costs just as much to get the game out there. Dragon's Dogma was considered a success even though it sold less, because it probably didn't need to sell as much in the first place to be profitable.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Only DA and Evil Within are interesting to me. Good news, my wallet needs a rest.
meanspartan
Member
Guess it is the game we deserve, but not the one we need in October.
CambriaRising
Member
Can't say I'm all that surprised.
Add Lords of the Fallen to the list.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Early adopters am cry
glad i waited for e3 before pulling the trigger on a PS4
mr teaspoon
Member
Fuck this. Seriously. Fuck it.
Hahaha, perfect gif. That sketch is a classic, the turn is all in the eyes.
But yeah, I can't believe this. I mean, I can. But I really thought that presumably having been working on the game thru Arkham Origins, and announcing a fall release date not too long ago, that this one would be safe.
I don't even know what I'm looking forward to this fall now. Destiny and Halo Anniversay (assuming it's a multiplayer bonanza), but is that it? Two FPS's?
Only Destiny and Sunset Overdrive (which you didn't list) are definite. CoD and Evolve are big (read: biiiiiiig) maybes for me.
Dying Light, The Order and now Batman, all getting delayed, is killing me. I have very little to look forward to. Hopefully downloadable and indie titles can fill the void.
ArkkAngel007
Member
And again, it's understandable that people want those games, but it just isn't realistic to have more than just a few coming from third parties when their chips were already sitting in last gen projects that had to be appropriated for this gen.
I'm not arguing that it isn't a disappointment for those of us wanting to move on (and I do want it too), but these big titles aren't made in a year and something just for this gen being within 2 years of development by this fall is highly unlikely.
Marc
Member
If I were a developer/publisher I would be hiring more people and throwing money at getting a game out the door, there is a massive gap in the market.
Any half-decent game released this fall will sell like gang busters, the lack of competition is insane.
Imagine something like The Last Guardian announced as coming in November.
Real shame about Arkham, I was really looking forward to it. How long ago did they even say they were coming out this year, months? Weird.
Any half-decent game released this fall will sell like gang busters, the lack of competition is insane.
Imagine something like The Last Guardian announced as coming in November.
Real shame about Arkham, I was really looking forward to it. How long ago did they even say they were coming out this year, months? Weird.
MetalFreak
Member
FFS!
What a weak ass list.
DoubleTake
Member
Goddamnit! My wallet wont survive 2015 :/
2014 truly is the year of Delays. Anyone got a list of everything that slated for 2015 or could be coming out next year?
2014 truly is the year of Delays. Anyone got a list of everything that slated for 2015 or could be coming out next year?
AHA-Lambda
Member
I don't think he is, I think he's just saying that it is the reality of the market at this point, given the proliferation of AAA budgeted games.
The success of some major key IP has given many publishers gold fever basically, chasing after the success of games like CoD and AC, meaning the opportunity for mid tier published games to die off. Given the shift in consumers spending habits and the way retail pushes these games as a result of sales and marketing it's very difficult for mid tier to be sustainable; whereas at least indie games are small enough they can get buy, mid tier are too big to succeed at that level but too small to get mass retail attention from a wider audience.
Mid tier is now at least in the same position that indie games were first in and managed to thrive in, were such games could never be sold at retail they found their opportunity through digital distribution; now look at how well the mid tier is doing on PC. That's the future of mid tier games, not as "smaller" titles from big publishers but as "big" titles from smaller publishers.
They got you!, i haven't bought one yet he he.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
2014, the year that I finally played my backlog.
shinra-bansho
Member
What part of "even cheaper games aren't cheap to make anymore" isn't coming across? These companies made cheaper games before when a cheap game cost half a million. A "cheap" console game these days costs multiple millions, even tens of millions. That's a market reality.
Watch Dogs just sold 4M in a week. Rayman Legends will never sell that. Neither will Child of Light or Valiant Hearts I imagine. All of these may be profitable. But Ubisoft will be more successful if it can produce more hits like Watch_Dogs, not more games like Child of Light. So they'll continue to focus their efforts on making games like Watch_Dogs. Market reality.
They aren't indies. They can't act like indies. They don't have that agility. They aren't one-man bands. They're publicly traded companies. Market reality.
And the market on consoles hasn't shown itself more receptive to having those titles in lieu of big budget blockbusters. Trine 2 isn't going to sell systems. Call of Duty is. Market reality.
You're essentially seeing what you want the market to be, or what you think it should be, rather than what it actually is.
"Get better at making low-budget games" isn't a solution to anything, when the reality is that people aren't buying those types of games on consoles. They're buying Call of Duty. They're buying Battlefield. They're buying Assassin's Creed.