A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.

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Maddocks

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If I needed the job badly I would have waited at least an hour. After an hour then ask for a reschedule because its been an hour. Two people left unexpectedly, probably because they got better jobs. So his 8 man team turned into 6, and he finished an interview before you showed up and had to make calls and take calls. People lose track of time all the time when they are busy. Who knows how long the first guy had to wait for his interview.

Should have waited just a bit longer.
 
I usually make people wait at least 30 minutes before I've interviewed them. If you really want a job, you'll wait. If you aren't willing to wait, you don't want the job that much, then I don't want you as an employee.
 

Ferrio

Banned
"Hey, listen, I don't mean to be a pain, but if this interview is delayed further, I may need to alter my schedule the rest of the day. Do you think I will be seeing Mr. _____ in the next few minutes?"
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Ya, gotta reschedule...need time for making that thread on gaf about skipping out on an interview... can't be late to that.
 

emb

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I completely think you made the wrong decision. It'd be nice if people were more courteous, but you left within the hour? Wait at least the full business day.
 
You left only after 45 minutes of waiting? What the fuck man...

My first thought. You're unemployed dude, have you really got something more important to do? Especially considering you already committed a lot of time to this with the written test and emails, not to mention it took you 45 minutes to drive to the interview! I can't believe you walked off after 45 mins of waiting.
 
If you want a job you should have stayed. I would have stayed and decided afterwards. If you really need a job you can't be picky. Get a job and use your off time looking for something better.


I'm starting to sound like my dad.
 
The interview isn't only about the company getting a feel for you , it's also you getting a feel for the company,

As the other guy said why would you want to work for a company like that?

15 mins is ok , 30 minutes waiting max, with no "hey we are running a bit late can you wait a bit longer? Sorry. " I'm rolling out.

Because regardless of the wait time jobs are in high demand. You show me one person that doesn't want to wait patiently for an hour and I'll show you 50 people that would GLADLY wait patiently.

Shit, dude could have brushed off the wait when the dude apologized and earned some bonus points in the interview for patience and temperment. I mean, if you got other opportunities lined up and you're in high demand then by all means don't lower your standards. But when you're out of a job and need to pay the bills you can browse GAF on your phone while you swallow your pride and wait.
 

Zoe

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He was aware I was sitting there. I could plain as day hear his conversation on the phone, just as I am sure he could hear my conversation with the receptionist. Also when I first got there she notified him I was there and brought me the paperwork and questionnaire he wanted me to answer and then personally took it to him and dropped it off.

So you actually started the interview. It took you 15 minutes for the paperwork and the test. What if he had planned on it taking twice that time and scheduled things accordingly?

And WTF at burning the bridge.
 
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Deleted member 12837

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We have no way of even knowing if the secretary told the owner he was there for the interview.

Actually we do:

He was aware I was sitting there. I could plain as day hear his conversation on the phone, just as I am sure he could hear my conversation with the receptionist. Also when I first got there she notified him I was there and brought me the paperwork and questionnaire he wanted me to answer and then personally took it to him and dropped it off.

I actually sent an email to him the moment I got home and nuked any opportunity I had with him from orbit... but I don't really feel bad about it. I do appreciate all of GAF's input and I enjoy getting differing perspectives on the situation. I will use it on my next interview.
 
Are you sure the interview was scheduled at 3:00?

My first time reading your story I got the times mixed up and thought it was scheduled for 4:00. Maybe your interviewer made the same mistake, considering your phone interview the previous day was at 4:00.

It was definitely at three over the phone. I told him anytime after 2 and he said can you be there right at 3? I confirmed and then sent a follow up email confirming with him and thanking him for the phone interview.
 

Iolo

Member
If you had waited 5 more minutes you would now have a job that pays $70k, taking you from unemployed to living the good life in a matter of one single interview.

And, although a small company with a frazzled owner and 2 techs who just left is a recipe for burning out, it's also prime opportunity for getting your hands dirty way above your skill level, because they have no one else. For example:

Owner: Hey OP do you have any experience doing backups/networking/UNIX?
OP: Uh, sure (under breath: I back up my PC / set up a LAN party / played with a Linux VM)
Owner: Great, you're our new backup etc. manager!

6 -12 months later you can parlay that into a career somewhere else if you get burned out.
 

akira28

Member
Of course it would do good. That's six months of salary and experience and he has a job when it comes time to look for a new one, which is a huge benefit.

Really, he totally blew this opportunity.

6 months at a shithole company making ok money and having to find your way out of that hole to an actually decent job, isn't worth it if you can go to a good place right from the start. A paycheck isn't everything. This is why managers abuse their workers.

Leaving an interview? Yeah this "opportunity" was blown. But it might have been a bad opportunity.
 
I can't believe people defend this.

Yes, your time is valuable, WHEN YOU'RE A HOT COMMODITY.

When you have headhunters banging at your door, you can cherry pick.

When you create threads complaining about retail pay and then skip out on an interview just because, take a good look and wonder who's at fault here.

5 more minutes, and you could've been hired! You now have a shadow of doubt cast on whether or not you could've had the job, good situation or bad.

Seeing an issue with 2 techs in IT means to me that the place is understaffed. If you had leveraged that knowledge in your interview and put it back on the boss, you could've walked out of there hired on the spot.

Treat it as a learning experience and move on, but seriously the people who say "time is valuable" really must have nice, cushy jobs where they can write from.

Or live in countries with a healthy labor market ;) (not that OP shouldn't have waited to see what the situation was)
 

Beardz

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"Hey, listen, I don't mean to be a pain, but if this interview is delayed further, I may need to alter my schedule the rest of the day. Do you think I will be seeing Mr. _____ in the next few minutes?"

That's all it would have taken.

Again, you still have the ability to reject any job offer. Sitting for the interview is something you still should have done if you are desperate for a job. If you aren't? Sure, leave, whatever.

That would be in the case the OP had something important to do, like, really important, but no, the only thing the OP did was create this really important thread.
 
Ya, gotta reschedule...need time for making that thread on gaf about skipping out on an interview... can't be late to that.

If only he had rescheduled. :/

My thought was just a tactful way to get the receptionist to light a fire under the owner (actually, to just remind the owner that a candidate was waiting).
 
And, although a small company with a frazzled owner and 2 techs who just left is a recipe for burning out, it's also prime opportunity for getting your hands dirty way above your skill level, because they have no one else. For example:

Owner: Hey OP do you have any experience doing backups/networking/UNIX?
OP: Uh, sure (under breath: I back up my PC / set up a LAN party / played with a Linux VM)
Owner: Great, you're our new backup etc. manager!

6 -12 months later you can parlay that into a career somewhere else if you get burned out.

Pretty much how anyone else moves up in a career.
 

Ferrio

Banned
It was definitely at three over the phone. I told him anytime after 2 and he said can you be there right at 3? I confirmed and then sent a follow up email confirming with him and thanking him for the phone interview.

Regardless when it was, you should of stayed.

You're not going to improve your situation if you just pussy out on some simple shit.
 
He was aware I was sitting there. I could plain as day hear his conversation on the phone, just as I am sure he could hear my conversation with the receptionist. Also when I first got there she notified him I was there and brought me the paperwork and questionnaire he wanted me to answer and then personally took it to him and dropped it off.

I actually sent an email to him the moment I got home and nuked any opportunity I had with him from orbit... but I don't really feel bad about it. I do appreciate all of GAF's input and I enjoy getting differing perspectives on the situation. I will use it on my next interview.

I would love to see the email you sent him.
 

Furyous

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If i was you, I'd go back and apologize one million times.

I'm showing up ten minutes early and waiting for the interview until the place closes and everyone leaves at the latest. Ego has ruined many careers before they start. Don't be the next victim. Seriously, go back, apologize and beg them to interview you. IMHO, you messed up.
 

Sneds

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I usually make people wait at least 30 minutes before I've interviewed them. If you really want a job, you'll wait. If you aren't willing to wait, you don't want the job that much, then I don't want you as an employee.

What an idiotic approach. How about respecting the people you're interviewing?
 

Askani

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That was an incredibly stupid move. From your previous threads it looks like you can't afford to lose an opportunity like this. Sometimesmyou have to have a shit job just for the steady paycheck. Beggars can't be chooser's. Don't know what you were thinking.

As we've learned today, apparently they can be.
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
I actually sent an email to him the moment I got home and nuked any opportunity I had with him from orbit... but I don't really feel bad about it. I do appreciate all of GAF's input and I enjoy getting differing perspectives on the situation. I will use it on my next interview.

Please post what you said to him.
 
Dude. Making people wait in the lobby for their interview happens all the time. My boss makes people wait. You're not his top priority!

Some employers do it on purpose. Lorne Michaels is notorious for it:

Chris Rock says Lorne Michaels makes people wait for “six hours” for appointments. “It’s a mind game,” says Rock. Heh.

Just like when people get a raise and their new salary is $X9,000 instead of $1k more. Just a little mind game. Who cares? It's fine.

Anyway, if he makes you wait for three hours, you stick around and look like a good sport if you can. Or tell the receptionist, "really sorry, but I have to reschedule". But after 45 minutes?? And not telling them anything??

And who cares about those guys that got fired or quit? Maybe he IS a difficult boss who yells at people like he's Spacely Sprockets, but then maybe you're the person he gets along with for the next five years? You won't know if you leave before the interview!
 

Zoe

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And to continue my previous post:
It was definitely at three over the phone. I told him anytime after 2 and he said can you be there right at 3? I confirmed and then sent a follow up email confirming with him and thanking him for the phone interview.

Even more evidence that he wasn't expecting to see you face to face at 3:00.
 

bigkrev

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So he told you to be there at 3. You showed up 15 minutes early (which is a good thing), and you had to fill out an application and take a test which took you 15 minutes or so. The person who was interviewing you knew that you would have to do some things before they talked to you when they scheduled the interview time.

You really made a huge mistake. You decided to let the company know that your time was more valuable to you than the job was. This is fine if you have other opportunities- but based on your posting history, you probably don't have a better alternative. You burned a bridge because an hour of your time is too valuable.
 

RevoDS

Junior Member
I don't understand this mindset...sure, time is money but when you're unemployed, your time isn't earning you much.

Since you're talking about an owner, this seems like a small business. The guy could've had a ton of problems, especially since two of his IT guys had left. I'm sure he didn't make you wait on purpose.

I'm saying this as a guy who's driving 10 hours this coming friday just going to a job interview and driving back home; an hour wait really isn't that bad. But to each his own...
 
Maybe he made a simple mistake and thought you were scheduled for 4? Maybe those calls were important? Just because someone is the "owner" doesn't mean they sit around counting their mad stacks of cash and shooting the shit all day. You should have just given him the benefit of the doubt and asked the secretary what was going on. =/

I dunno. Walking out like that just seems incredibly immature.
 

Kerned

Banned
If i was you, I'd go back and apologize one million times.

I'm showing up ten minutes early and waiting for the interview until the place closes and everyone leaves at the latest. Ego has ruined many careers before they start. Don't be the next victim. Seriously, go back, apologize and beg them to interview you. IMHO, you messed up.

No amount of apologizing is going to fix the situation. That place doesn't need OP. They have other candidates who didn't walk out before the interview and then go home and send the owner a snarky email. OP is not getting the job. That ship has sailed.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
I usually make people wait at least 30 minutes before I've interviewed them. If you really want a job, you'll wait. If you aren't willing to wait, you don't want the job that much, then I don't want you as an employee.

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Glad to see you like to waste time. Getting there on time isn't enough?
 

KHarvey16

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6 months at a shithole company making ok money and having to find your way out of that hole to an actually decent job, isn't worth it if you can go to a good place right from the start. A paycheck isn't everything. This is why managers abuse their workers.

Leaving an interview? Yeah this "opportunity" was blown. But it might have been a bad opportunity.

Find your way out of that hole? What does that mean? Getting another job while you already have a job is so much easier than getting one while unemployed.
 

genjiZERO

Member
What? That would have made him seem like a complete dick. You have to shelf your ego when in interview situations (unless you're interviewing at a high level).

Assuming OP's account is accurate then 45 minutes is an unreasonable amount of time to make someone wait with no explanation. You don't simply let people take advantage of you because you need a job. I don't agree with this pro-grovelling attitude a lot of people have in this thread.

OP, you're not wrong. But..you're not completely right. It was a bad start, and it was their fault, undeniably.

Maybe they're looking for someone who doesn't mind when their time is abused. They really should have at least said something about the missed appointment instead of being annoyed that you didn't wait 45 minutes to be seen.

The most reasonable post in the thread. You win again akira
 
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